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    Wow! If that is accurate then Sevco could lose out big time...

    Shame eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsk View Post
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    Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....

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    Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....

    Aren't they called 'Hobo's over there …………………………...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    Aren't they called 'Hobo's over there …………………………...
    You inferring I'm a Sevco fan ya bam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....
    I have. I was disgusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker View Post
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    I have. I was disgusted.
    Last time I was in the USA we met a family of Hibbies at the airport, on their way home. Every one of them had a Hibs top on. The kids in full kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingPat4 View Post
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    Last time I was in the USA we met a family of Hibbies at the airport, on their way home. Every one of them had a Hibs top on. The kids in full kit.
    A great sight to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker View Post
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    A great sight to see.
    Saw a Hibee at the Highland Games in Kansas City years ago and then saw the same guy again the following year

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Saw a Hibee at the Highland Games in Kansas City years ago and then saw the same guy again the following year
    There's a big Scottish community in Kearny but they all seem to be Celtc supporters.

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    Statement from Hummel / Elite


    Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
    “The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
    “We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
    “We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
    “We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Statement from Hummel / Elite
    Jeez, is there any aspect of that horrible club where they are not under threat of going to the courts?

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    Article from CQN says that their online store is now selling old Puma jerseys from the 17/18 season. Hope the players don't get any holes in their shirts between now and the end of the season and I imagine the players will be fined if they swap shirts at the end of a game

    https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/hu...t-proceedings/

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Article from CQN says that their online store is now selling old Puma jerseys from the 17/18 season. Hope the players don't get any holes in their shirts between now and the end of the season and I imagine the players will be fined if they swap shirts at the end of a game

    https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/hu...t-proceedings/

    More to the point, Hummel are giving Sevco’s legal proceedings short shrift.

    This is not the way to run a football club and there is not a limitless well of commercial partners to dip into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    You inferring I'm a Sevco fan ya bam?

    Aaargh, only just noticed your name - of course I wasn't, no-one deserves such a slur apart from the 'loyal', genuine scraper-of-the-knuckle !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Statement from Hummel / Elite


    Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
    “The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
    “We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
    “We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
    “We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”



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    Hilarious. Der Hun have had as much success in court as they have trophies since they zombified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Rourke3 View Post
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    Der Hun have had as much success in court as they have trophies since they zombified.

    Be fair, they've won FOUR trophies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....
    You're doing well then - I've been living half of the year in the USA for the past 3 years (just south of the Bay Area) and I see them from time to time whenever I'm up in San Fran. More Tims though for some reason.

    Either are nauseating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Statement from Hummel / Elite


    Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
    “The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
    “We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
    “We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
    “We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”



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    Nobody is going to touch the ‘Rangers’ brand with a bargepole now. I reckon they could be in dire straits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Nobody is going to touch the ‘Rangers’ brand with a bargepole now. I reckon they could be in dire straits.
    I think they must be running on fumes by now. They needed £10m to finish the season and I haven’t heard of them receiving it yet. And signs are that they are scratching around for cash.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Nobody is going to touch the ‘Rangers’ brand with a bargepole now. I reckon they could be in dire straits.
    Any company thinking about it will know that whatever they offer they might make has to be made known to Mike Ashley to give him the opportunity to match it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Any company thinking about it will know that whatever they offer they might make has to be made known to Mike Ashley to give him the opportunity to match it.
    Wonder what date the have to inform the SPFL and SFA about the design of next years strip? Things are going to be very tight for them making deadlines if they are only putting amateur hour ads on their website now.


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    Read somewhere that the Hummell story could be a hoax

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    If they had faced up to the situation when they got back into the top flight they would have accepted that 10 in a row was done and dusted due to Celtic's Champions League / Europa League adventures during their wilderness years and competing with Celtic in the near future over the course of a season was going to be too much for them.

    Instead they should have concentrated on a slow rise, within their means or at worst with managable levels of borrowing, to get back to competing with Celtic year in year out for the title.


    Of course the hordes can never accept being 2nd, not even for one year, so instead they've decided to embark on "The Road to Administration: The Sequel" which I imagine will conclude next year when it will be do or die in an attempt to stop Celtic from getting 10 in a row.


    I can only imagine the scenes if that was clinched at Ibrox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudSquall View Post
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    If they had faced up to the situation when they got back into the top flight they would have accepted that 10 in a row was done and dusted due to Celtic's Champions League / Europa League adventures during their wilderness years and competing with Celtic in the near future over the course of a season was going to be too much for them.

    Instead they should have concentrated on a slow rise, within their means or at worst with managable levels of borrowing, to get back to competing with Celtic year in year out for the title.


    Of course the hordes can never accept being 2nd, not even for one year, so instead they've decided to embark on "The Road to Administration: The Sequel" which I imagine will conclude next year when it will be do or die in an attempt to stop Celtic from getting 10 in a row.


    I can only imagine the scenes if that was clinched at Ibrox.
    The problem with the slow build is that they have a structural deficit on Celtic that can’t easily be bridged. Celtic have 10,000 extra seats to sell every game and they have a well established retail operation built up over many years. They are about to add a hotel to that as well. Sevco’s turnover is less than half Celtics even without champions league football.


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    Be fair, they've won FOUR trophies.

    This is true. In 4 years of potentially no competition they failed to win the Petrofac cup 3 times. So the rate should be higher. When they came up against real competion in a blue riband trophy they somehow managed not to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Statement from Hummel / Elite


    Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
    “However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
    “The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
    “Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
    “We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
    “We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
    “We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”



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    Ha Ha! Serves the tossers right.

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    Anyone got a link to the Hummel statement? Can only find it on Celtic related sites with quotes but no link to the original. Makes me suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernz View Post
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    Anyone got a link to the Hummel statement? Can only find it on Celtic related sites with quotes but no link to the original. Makes me suspicious.
    The only sources seem to be Celtic leaning. Only non partisan report I can find is


    https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/r...-row-persists/

    but no mention of the Hummel/ Elite statement


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    In terms of Sporting Integrity I want them to go on winning nothing for as long as possible
    It’s the only thing now that gets to them
    They keep thinking g they are back but the longer they go without winning anything it confirms they aren’t Even if they are the best of the rest


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