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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Why didn't he do any of those things today? He scored but his general play didn't exist. He held nothing up. United had 2 shots on goal.


    Imagine how many goals he would would score in this HIBS team with Boyle and Allan laying them on a plate for him

    I was impressed with his upper body strength especially when up against Daz but as I said earlier in this thread I am still failing to see this brilliant hold up player that brings others into play like some sort of latter day Stevie Archibald he is an excellent finisher and his finish today was calmness personified


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    Doidge is by far the better player

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    If you’d never heard of either you’d have come away today thinking Doidge was a better player IMO. Gave them more problems than Shankland gave us.

    Could have won it at the end, but I’m sure the great Laurence Shankland misses chances as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Doidge scored a very good goal. Chance at the end wasn't easy at all.
    The difference between someone who is a clinical finisher and one who isn’t. Clearly speculation on my part but I’d have fancied Shankland to finish Doidge’s chance at the end. I had absolutely no confidence he was going to finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    The difference between someone who is a clinical finisher and one who isn’t. Clearly speculation on my part but I’d have fancied Shankland to finish Doidge’s chance at the end. I had absolutely no confidence he was going to finish it.
    Honestly that is pure nonsense. I'd have fancied Shankland to score?? Based on what, certainly not his performance this evening. He was pish and scored, Doidge was slightly less pish and scored, go figure who is being touted as the next big thing. And based on every time I've seen Shankland I just don't get it

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    I have watched Shankland over a couple of years.
    He is an out and out goalscorer.
    You forget he is on the pitch then he gets a chance, comes alive and puts it away as he did today then disappears again.
    His run for the goal was good and he sorted his feet out very quickly and tidily rolled the ball into the net.
    It is relevant that he plays in a poor team and as a result gets very poor service so it is difficult to judge if he would cut it for the likes of Hibs, so jury still out on him.

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    Based on that Doidge

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    Since we're in the mood for hyperbole - you're an ********
    Thank you. What a terribly grown up response to an opinion

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    Shankland had one good chance and finished it. If he had one or two more I have no doubt we'd have been walking away from this game without even a replay. Doidge had a great chance at the death and done his usual hit it at the keeper.

    Not a great day for either to showcase themselves but I still have zero doubt who I'd like to see play for us.
    Doidges take down and control was brilliant for the chance at the end but the big keeper read it and immediately closed him down.
    Your criticism re this chance has no merit.

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    I have watched Shankland over a couple of years.
    He is an out and out goalscorer.
    You forget he is on the pitch then he gets a chance, comes alive and puts it away as he did today then disappears again.
    His run for the goal was good and he sorted his feet out very quickly and tidily rolled the ball into the net.
    It is relevant that he plays in a poor team and as a result gets very poor service so it is difficult to judge if he would cut it for the likes of Hibs, so jury still out on him.
    Shankland plays in by far and away the best team in his league? I’d imagine he gets absolutely excellent service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    Honestly that is pure nonsense. I'd have fancied Shankland to score?? Based on what, certainly not his performance this evening. He was pish and scored, Doidge was slightly less pish and scored, go figure who is being touted as the next big thing. And based on every time I've seen Shankland I just don't get it
    Nonsense in your opinion. Whatever faults Shankland may have he’s known as a clinical finisher, not something even his biggest fan can say about Doidge.

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    The difference between someone who is a clinical finisher and one who isn’t. Clearly speculation on my part but I’d have fancied Shankland to finish Doidge’s chance at the end. I had absolutely no confidence he was going to finish it.
    The only way of scoring it would have been to hit it first time before the keeper could close it down.

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    Genuinely thought Shankland wasn't playing until they announced his goal. Sign of a good striker? Maybe. Utterly invisible 2nd half

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    Honestly that is pure nonsense. I'd have fancied Shankland to score?? Based on what, certainly not his performance this evening. He was pish and scored, Doidge was slightly less pish and scored, go figure who is being touted as the next big thing. And based on every time I've seen Shankland I just don't get it
    Probably based on the fact he scores the majority of chances he gets?

    Had a quiet game today (thankfully) and still got on the scoresheet, as he tends to do. Hopefully he’s just as quiet in the replay.

    Someone like him could have had the tie wrapped up for us today.

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    So far it's Doidge 1, Shankland 1.

    We'll find out the winner in nine days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeeRussell View Post
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    Probably based on the fact he scores the majority of chances he gets?

    Had a quiet game today (thankfully) and still got on the scoresheet, as he tends to do. Hopefully he’s just as quiet in the replay.

    Someone like him could have had the tie wrapped up for us today.
    Or alternatively he could be just like Steven Dobbie who scored tons of goals in that division but just didn't cut it in the tip league.

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    Doidge over Shankland all day long and he showed why today.

    Kamberi was also about 10 levels above Shankland so I’d surmise that if we’d signed him he would have been a decent 3rd choice striker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    Or alternatively he could be just like Steven Dobbie who scored tons of goals in that division but just didn't cut it in the tip league.
    Dobbie in his prime would've pished all over the SPL

    He was a quality player down south. Shankland isn't in his league.

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    Shankland plays in by far and away the best team in his league? I’d imagine he gets absolutely excellent service.
    He does, which makes his achievements in that league hard to judge. Loads of chances against duffers.
    Equally the poorness of his performance today is hard to benchmark because his teammates struggled all game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Genuinely thought Shankland wasn't playing until they announced his goal. Sign of a good striker? Maybe. Utterly invisible 2nd half
    Shankland to me is the superior goal scorer, I’d be stunned if Doidge would have the sort of ratio Shankland has in that league. Doidge brings so much more to the team than Shankland though, so it really just depends if we want a forward who will get his fair share of goals while offering a lot more than just that or a guy who will score a barrel load but offer next to nothing when he’s not doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Dobbie in his prime would've pished all over the SPL

    He was a quality player down south. Shankland isn't in his league.
    Thanks for backing up my argument. I do not remember Dobbie have smoke blown up his arse and getting Scotland caps for **** sake like Shankland

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    Thanks for backing up my argument. I do not remember Dobbie have smoke blown up his arse and getting Scotland caps for **** sake like Shankland
    Indeed. Shankland has a long way to go before he actually deserves the way he is being spoken about. Hibs have 2 better strikers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Indeed. Shankland has a long way to go before he actually deserves the way he is being spoken about. Hibs have 2 better strikers.
    100% in agreement with you there, and they are probably both being paid less.

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    Shankland to me is the superior goal scorer, I’d be stunned if Doidge would have the sort of ratio Shankland has in that league. Doidge brings so much more to the team than Shankland though, so it really just depends if we want a forward who will get his fair share of goals while offering a lot more than just that or a guy who will score a barrel load but offer next to nothing when he’s not doing that.
    Allan and Shankland in the same team
    The other 8 outfield players would die of exhaustion after 75 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Dobbie in his prime would've pished all over the SPL

    He was a quality player down south. Shankland isn't in his league.
    Erm. Dobbie was at Hibs when he was 21/22. He scored 7 goals in 2 seasons, including a league cup hat trick against Montrose.

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    On today’s showing Doidge and he is now in double figures


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    Shankland looks like he'd seriously struggle to make the step up to Premiership. Sounds daft as he scored but he was invisible for 89 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Doidges take down and control was brilliant for the chance at the end but the big keeper read it and immediately closed him down.
    Your criticism re this chance has no merit.
    In your opinion.

    I agree with another poster who said that they had no confidence in him to finish it. He did well to take it down but after that he didn't pick a spot nor did he look up to notice I think Boyle on the penalty spot (admittedly Shankland being a goalscorer might not have wanted to pass if it was him). Does that one chance make him a bad player? Absolutely not. But the fact of the matter is we've paid what appears to be the most amount of money we've paid since De La Cruz for this man and he looks no better than a lot of strikers we've signed and released for free before him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    In your opinion.

    I agree with another poster who said that they had no confidence in him to finish it. He did well to take it down but after that he didn't pick a spot nor did he look up to notice I think Boyle on the penalty spot (admittedly Shankland being a goalscorer might not have wanted to pass if it was him). Does that one chance make him a bad player? Absolutely not. But the fact of the matter is we've paid what appears to be the most amount of money we've paid since De La Cruz for this man and he looks no better than a lot of strikers we've signed and released for free before him.
    Boyle was being marked so if he’d done that he’d be lambasted for not having a go.

    It was great goal keeping.


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    While Doidge is a much more complete player than Shankland at this point in time. I think it's a bit unfair to draw comparisons between the two based on today's match. Shankland was up against better and more experienced defenders and has little to no experience of playing above Championship level. He'll probably get the chance to play at a higher level soon and then we'll see if he develops. As to the actual question posed of who was the better signing. If his goals makes the difference between United being in the play offs and winning the Championship at a canter, then it might be Shankland.

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