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    Why wouldn't he spend a few bob to get into Europe and have the fan base grow?
    Because his dream is for us to be the next St Johnstone with a bigger fan base 👍


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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    The indoor pitch is a project brave requirement.
    Are you sure, as no other team in Scotland own one

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    Are you sure, as no other team in Scotland own one
    Did Aberdeen not just open one?

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    Because his dream is for us to be the next St Johnstone with a bigger fan base 👍
    Have you got a link to that interview?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greencore View Post
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    Why wouldn't he spend a few bob to get into Europe and have the fan base grow?
    That is possible and according to folk on here he did make cash available, maybe not the kind Aberdeem or Hearts get and in this case it didn't work for PH.

    My point is he could throw 3-5m a season (if he's got it spare) at us and still come 5th, 6th or worse if the footballing side isn't performing, Jambos are leading the way at this right now.

    I'm hoping that's what he's looking at. How to get the best set up so we can regularly challenge for 3rd.

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    And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

    We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.
    Pretty much where I am...my late dad brought me up on tales of the Famous 5 and three league titles in 5 seasons (which should have been 4 out of 5 according to him), and thrilling football played by guys like Smith (his favourite ever player alongside Willie Hamilton) who would be superstars these days.

    A club that pioneered European football, and toured the world.

    More recent times we set the then record transfer fee between a Scottish and English club with the signing of Harper.

    In short, a club that acted and thought "big" (before our maroon chums copyrighted the word).

    The Farmer/Petrie era post-Duff and Gray, saw us move to financial stability, for sure, but it also heralded some mediocre performances and seasons on the park, and also a dampening down of expectations amongst the fans, with the constant backdrop of safety-first, risk-averse stewardship under Petrie.

    It's not unreasonable to be filled with hope that when a new owner comes along, this will usher in a new era at the club where we finally start punching our weight over a sustained period of 5-6 seasons; and indeed maybe even challenge for the title now and again - as Ron Gordon mentioned himself when he took over - the last time we even came near was in 1973 and we knew what happened after Brownlie broke his leg and Edwards got suspended.

    For there have been a nigh-on 50 year gap since our last challenge for the title for a capital city club is pretty poor in all honesty.

    The fact that we appear to be muddling along again, especially in the area of player recruitment where we can't ever appear to bring in ONE player to augment the team without one going out the other way appears to be contrary to the grand plan as promised in the brochure when he first spoke publically.

    We'll take over 3,000 bodies up to Dundee on Sunday - a turnout that would only be matched by the Ugly Sisters IMO, and is a remarkable turnout by Hibs fans considering the indifferent season we're (once again) experiencing.

    Time for Gordon and Paton to give us a steer as to where they want to take the club and how they intend to get us there?

    I for one am all ears, Ron...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Well it’s not really worked so far.

    Again, what’s the point in him buying us just to have a ever steady possibly growing football club in Scotland? Seems a complete waste of time.
    It hasn't, whatever money he was said to have put in was given to PH. I cant see him ploughing good after bad until he sees the changes he wants to see.

    I'm hoping we'll find out what that is when the AGM comes around.

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    Did you read the article or just copy and paste from Google search results? That article is based on the cheapest season tickets available at each club. Because Hibs have flat pricing they appear higher up the list, however other teams in the league have more expensive season tickets. It doesn’t compare apples with apples.

    Season ticket beside the dugouts at Easter Road = £405
    Season ticket beside the dugouts at Pittodrie = £434
    Season ticket beside the dugouts at Tynie = £500
    Greencore wins the Hibs.net unable to read between the lines award for today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Check the stats man.

    We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.
    So because we have under performed in the past (and I don’t think anybody sensible would say that we haven’t) we should expect to keep under performing? Our attendances are double Motherwell’s and Killie’s yet we should just accept them beating us to the Euro spots because we have always been rubbish?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Did Aberdeen not just open one?
    Yes they did, part of a very impressive training complex for them.
    Not before time to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    More than six months and that’s more than long enough to let us know wtf is going to happen.

    It’s not realism also. Unless we can get an answer as to why he bought us speculation will continue. It’s not as if anything positive has happened since we got bought over.
    If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?

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    If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?
    I think most people realise there’ll be some clarity when we have an AGM.

    The issue is that the AGM doesn’t seem to be coming. By the time we have it, we’ll be the best part of a season in to his ownership at this rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?
    When’s that again? Isn’t it usually in October or November?

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    If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?
    When is the AGM?

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    I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe6-2 View Post
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    When is the AGM?
    Good question.

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    Good question.
    I thought that was a daft question, that surely I should know 🙄

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    I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.
    Yeah, I agree, once bitten twice shy.
    Hecky has set us back big time with expensive average players signed on long contracts and I believe it will take another 18 months to fully clear up his mess. Fortunately we now have the right guy in as manager and he will gradually get things back on track.
    Being in good shape financially means we should have 2 good new signings when this window is concluded. Hopefully Mathie plays a mean game of poker and holds his nerve better than a lot of folk on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe6-2 View Post
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    I thought that was a daft question, that surely I should know 🙄
    There are a lot of us who would like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.
    This !

    I also believe GM that they are currently trying to bring people in

    Might not be before Sunday but still a wee while before the window slams shut

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    When’s that again? Isn’t it usually in October or November?
    Yes, I thought it was later this month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe6-2 View Post
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    When is the AGM?
    I thought it was the end of this month.

    Anyone able to shed light on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.
    Are you suggesting we might have been lied to about this?

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    Pretty much where I am...my late dad brought me up on tales of the Famous 5 and three league titles in 5 seasons (which should have been 4 out of 5 according to him), and thrilling football played by guys like Smith (his favourite ever player alongside Willie Hamilton) who would be superstars these days.

    A club that pioneered European football, and toured the world.

    More recent times we set the then record transfer fee between a Scottish and English club with the signing of Harper.

    In short, a club that acted and thought "big" (before our maroon chums copyrighted the word).

    The Farmer/Petrie era post-Duff and Gray, saw us move to financial stability, for sure, but it also heralded some mediocre performances and seasons on the park, and also a dampening down of expectations amongst the fans, with the constant backdrop of safety-first, risk-averse stewardship under Petrie.

    It's not unreasonable to be filled with hope that when a new owner comes along, this will usher in a new era at the club where we finally start punching our weight over a sustained period of 5-6 seasons; and indeed maybe even challenge for the title now and again - as Ron Gordon mentioned himself when he took over - the last time we even came near was in 1973 and we knew what happened after Brownlie broke his leg and Edwards got suspended.

    For there have been a nigh-on 50 year gap since our last challenge for the title for a capital city club is pretty poor in all honesty.

    The fact that we appear to be muddling along again, especially in the area of player recruitment where we can't ever appear to bring in ONE player to augment the team without one going out the other way appears to be contrary to the grand plan as promised in the brochure when he first spoke publically.

    We'll take over 3,000 bodies up to Dundee on Sunday - a turnout that would only be matched by the Ugly Sisters IMO, and is a remarkable turnout by Hibs fans considering the indifferent season we're (once again) experiencing.

    Time for Gordon and Paton to give us a steer as to where they want to take the club and how they intend to get us there?

    I for one am all ears, Ron...

    As am I and many others Scotty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    I thought it was the end of this month.

    Anyone able to shed light on that?
    No date has been given as yet
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    Are you suggesting we might have been lied to about this?
    Of course not.

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    Some utter garbage on this thread tonight. I particularly wonder what the support do to deserve been responsible for our traditional mid table.mediocrity and what not accepting this actually means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    Some utter garbage on this thread tonight. I particularly wonder what the support do to deserve been responsible for our traditional mid table.mediocrity and what not accepting this actually means?
    In my time of following Hibs, I don't think the fans ambitions have been met (SC Cup win apart)
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    More than six months and that’s more than long enough to let us know wtf is going to happen.

    It’s not realism also. Unless we can get an answer as to why he bought us speculation will continue. It’s not as if anything positive has happened since we got bought over.
    Being debt free is fairly positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty Leither View Post
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    Pretty much where I am...my late dad brought me up on tales of the Famous 5 and three league titles in 5 seasons (which should have been 4 out of 5 according to him), and thrilling football played by guys like Smith (his favourite ever player alongside Willie Hamilton) who would be superstars these days.

    A club that pioneered European football, and toured the world.

    More recent times we set the then record transfer fee between a Scottish and English club with the signing of Harper.

    In short, a club that acted and thought "big" (before our maroon chums copyrighted the word).

    The Farmer/Petrie era post-Duff and Gray, saw us move to financial stability, for sure, but it also heralded some mediocre performances and seasons on the park, and also a dampening down of expectations amongst the fans, with the constant backdrop of safety-first, risk-averse stewardship under Petrie.

    It's not unreasonable to be filled with hope that when a new owner comes along, this will usher in a new era at the club where we finally start punching our weight over a sustained period of 5-6 seasons; and indeed maybe even challenge for the title now and again - as Ron Gordon mentioned himself when he took over - the last time we even came near was in 1973 and we knew what happened after Brownlie broke his leg and Edwards got suspended.

    For there have been a nigh-on 50 year gap since our last challenge for the title for a capital city club is pretty poor in all honesty.

    The fact that we appear to be muddling along again, especially in the area of player recruitment where we can't ever appear to bring in ONE player to augment the team without one going out the other way appears to be contrary to the grand plan as promised in the brochure when he first spoke publically.

    We'll take over 3,000 bodies up to Dundee on Sunday - a turnout that would only be matched by the Ugly Sisters IMO, and is a remarkable turnout by Hibs fans considering the indifferent season we're (once again) experiencing.

    Time for Gordon and Paton to give us a steer as to where they want to take the club and how they intend to get us there?

    I for one am all ears, Ron...

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