The generic Hearts thread

[Jones28]

“I’m not going to throw the toys out the pram” he said as reporters duck for cover.

[Northernhibee]

This will go one or two ways - it will rip the malaise at Hearts apart and they'll finish seventh or eighth, or they'll fall apart and will be down by the split.

I hate to say it but they always seem to come up smelling of roses so I think it'll be the former.

[HoboHarry]

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“I’m not going to throw the toys out the pram” he said as reporters duck for cover.

Reporters are fine, all of the toys ended up in his own net......

[I'm Spartacus]

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“I’m not going to throw the toys out the pram” he said as reporters duck for cover.

He was so slow throwing them out the pram he hadn't realised the toys had been placed back in the pram.

[Smartie]

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This will go one or two ways - it will rip the malaise at Hearts apart and they'll finish seventh or eighth, or they'll fall apart and will be down by the split.

I hate to say it but they always seem to come up smelling of roses so I think it'll be the former.

I agree.

This kills them or cures them.

From Stendel's point of view he can't just come in with them bottom of the league and continue to do the same things with the same people that took them there.

When the problems are mainly with the most influential players, the highest earners, the most "in with the bricks" and with past fans' favourites, it makes it much harder for him to go for quick, easy and painless fixes.

At least in Whelan's case they've got shot of him quickly, although at what cost? Putting the boot into Berra in this way could have all sorts of consequences.

Identifying and tackling the biggest problems early and courageously though is probably the way to go, although they'll need to expect to deal with the collateral damage that results.

[Deansy]

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Thinly veiled attack on Stendel by Berra:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51019416

Some wedding present from Hearts! Congratulations Christophe, you're fired!

'I'm not going to throw the toys out the pram'

And then proceeds to throw his toys, bottle, pram-contents and eventually the whole pram at Stendel/Hearts !

[GreenCastle]

Berra - can’t seem him going to any top tier clubs especially as would mean him playing against Hearts.

Can’t see him going down south again as he came back to Hearts to be closer to home.

Basically see him picking up wages till his contract ends or manager leaves and then new manager comes - but then you have same issue.

Either way it’s pretty funny and hilarious it’s happened to Mr Hearts.

Club showing their class once again how to treat folk.

[Smartie]

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"but I don't think anyone represents the club better than me."

Bottom of the league, self defeating, over rated. Nice one Kris.

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"but I don't think anyone represents the club better than me".

Pulling out of the Tynecastle car park for the last time, the furious, cardigan-clad, toothless simpleton's six-fingered hands paw at the steering wheel of the Rover through his driving gloves and salty tears as he heads home to have missionary sex with his sister (whom he married last Friday). The "defender" may not have been in the right position very often in the Jam Tarts' recent humbling at home to Hibs, but he is most certainly on the mark with this latest observation.

[HoboHarry]

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"but I don't think anyone represents the club better than me".

Pulling out of the Tynecastle car park for the last time, the furious, cardigan-clad, toothless simpleton's six-fingered hands paw at the steering wheel of the Rover through his driving gloves and salty tears as he heads home to have missionary sex with his sister (whom he married last Friday). The "defender" may not have been in the right position very often in the Jam Tarts' recent humbling at home to Hibs, but he is most certainly on the mark with this latest observation.

Lol - your last sentence was worthy of having been written by Tom Sharpe himself.....

[Tyler Durden]

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While i wouldnt be impressed if hibs treated a player whos given quite a bit to the club like that i think he really has been as bad as made out. He was absolutely horrific against celtic and us. Positioning was all over the place because hes so chronically slow now. And that leaves him exposed as hes always been terrible with the ball at his feet.

Oh I agree he’s been terrible but that high line they’re trying to play would make most CBs look bad. Hibs second goal (ironically coming from our own high press)..... hardly his fault when a midfielder gets robbed in his own third.

Berra can’t play that high line but they’ve nobody else who can either. They’ll keep losing plenty goals.

And the only guy who has scored a goal for them in the last few months is off to play for Japan until mid Feb I think? But the lemmings over there will be content that it’s all down to big bad Berra and money grabbing Whelan. Mugs

[G B Young]

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I agree.

This kills them or cures them.

From Stendel's point of view he can't just come in with them bottom of the league and continue to do the same things with the same people that took them there.

When the problems are mainly with the most influential players, the highest earners, the most "in with the bricks" and with past fans' favourites, it makes it much harder for him to go for quick, easy and painless fixes.

At least in Whelan's case they've got shot of him quickly, although at what cost? Putting the boot into Berra in this way could have all sorts of consequences.

Identifying and tackling the biggest problems early and courageously though is probably the way to go, although they'll need to expect to deal with the collateral damage that results.

I don't think there's anything courageous about very publicly banishing your long-serving club captain to the reserves when, as far as we know, his only offence is to have not been playing well. A bit of respect for the guy's commitment to Hearts down the years might be in order.

[JeMeSouviens]

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I don't think there's anything courageous about very publicly banishing your long-serving club captain to the reserves when, as far as we know, his only offence is to have not been playing well. A bit of respect for the guy's commitment to Hearts down the years might be in order.

There's "showing them you're tough" and then there's "acting like a dick".

[Cataplana]

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There's "showing them you're tough" and then there's "acting like a dick".

Perhaps Christophe would be part of a pro Levein clique within the squad? IIRC he was disrespectful to the new boss when he arrived.

[PatHead]

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Wouldn't surprise me if Berra questioned Stendel's decision to go home for Christmas and give the players the day off before the derby. Whatever we might think of Berra he's a guy who knows a lot more than Stendel does about what the fixture means to both clubs and their fans. The fact he was dropped for the next game and we're now hearing he's been told to train with the reserves certainly inidcates a fallout. If not you'd have thought the decision to release their club captain would be more sympathetically reported.

I suspect they didn't train on Christmas Day because Heriot Watt was closed. They couldn't risk the pitch being further damaged, so gave the players the day off.

It is what big clubs that don't own their training centre do.

[jacomo]

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This is page 62 of this thread, just to say.

Strap in. As ‘the generic Hearts thread’, there is no end in sight.

A bit like the New Hearts Stand thread, as it turns out...

[Peevemor]

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Oh I agree he’s been terrible but that high line they’re trying to play would make most CBs look bad. Hibs second goal (ironically coming from our own high press)..... hardly his fault when a midfielder gets robbed in his own third.

Berra can’t play that high line but they’ve nobody else who can either. They’ll keep losing plenty goals.

And the only guy who has scored a goal for them in the last few months is off to play for Japan until mid Feb I think? But the lemmings over there will be content that it’s all down to big bad Berra and money grabbing Whelan. Mugs

He was criticised for Celtic's 2nd against them 2/3 weeks ago, but I don't know what he was meant to do alone on the halfway line as 2 Celtic players broke past him.

[Bostonhibby]

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Again according to my office Jambo he is the next Klopp. Has all the makings of a hearts legend and will one day manage a tip top side in Europe or England. After I stopped laughing I asked him why he hasn't won a game in about the last 15, he just replied that he is only beginning to get his own team together. I asked him about why he hadn't win in ten or so games at Barnsley he said that was all down to the board not backing him. None of it Stendels fault. It really is hard to converse with a turnip!!!

Your office Duncan's probably talking about the top English side Barnsley, and look how well they've done since the German Rab C Nesbitt left compared to the famous.

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[hibsbollah]

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"but I don't think anyone represents the club better than me".

Pulling out of the Tynecastle car park for the last time, the furious, cardigan-clad, toothless simpleton's six-fingered hands paw at the steering wheel of the Rover through his driving gloves and salty tears as he heads home to have missionary sex with his sister (whom he married last Friday). The "defender" may not have been in the right position very often in the Jam Tarts' recent humbling at home to Hibs, but he is most certainly on the mark with this latest observation.

[G B Young]

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There's "showing them you're tough" and then there's "acting like a dick".

Berra can't disguise his disgust at Stendel here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51026536

[Not In The Know]

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Berra can't disguise his disgust at Stendel here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51026536

Oooft!

Seems the german Rab C didn't even have the balls to tell him face to face. i Hope Berra rinses them for every penny of his outstanding contract.

[Billy Whizz]

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Oooft!

Seems the german Rab C didn't even have the balls to tell him face to face. i Hope Berra rinses them for every penny of his outstanding contract.

Says he’s not one to hang around

[hibsbollah]

Hes the kind of signing you can see Ross County making. Or Dundee Utd?

[GlesgaeHibby]

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Hes the kind of signing you can see Ross County making. Or Dundee Utd?

Would love it to be Dundee utd. Can you imagine the seethe of hearts getting relegated and utd with Berra getting promoted.

[Bostonhibby]

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Would love it to be Dundee utd. Can you imagine the seethe of hearts getting relegated and utd with Berra getting promoted.

And Robbie replay as well

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[snedzuk]

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Berra can't disguise his disgust at Stendel here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51026536

42 seconds in I thought that buggy thing was going to take him out.

[Since452]

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Berra can't disguise his disgust at Stendel here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51026536

Ouch. Actually quite like Berra. One of those Hearts players I have a bit of time for

[G B Young]

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42 seconds in I thought that buggy thing was going to take him out.

I thought that too. Wonder if it's club officials racing to try and stop him speaking to the media then thinking better of it. Or maybe it's Levein arriving for his afternoon shift...

It's definitely an 'off radar' interview. You don't normally see players agreeing to that sort of 'doorstepping' by journalists. Usually all strictly controlled by the club.

[Dashing Bob S]

I’m going to stick my neck out and I know it’s early days so it could come back to bite me - but Stendel is better than Cathro

[Joe6-2]

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42 seconds in I thought that buggy thing was going to take him out.

It’s been taken out!!!!

[HoboHarry]

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I’m going to stick my neck out and I know it’s early days so it could come back to bite me - but Stendel is better than Cathro

Outwith his spell at Hearts Cathro has done very well and appears to be be very highly regarded.....