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    Sturgeon gets an A. It would have been A+ but she failed to understand and therefore answer the "Once in a lifetime" question.
    That was odd. I wondered if she recognised the audience member as a troll and was trying hard not to engage with him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Lie, waffle, deflect, repeat ad infinitum.
    An utter Bawbag.

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    Hopefully now the LDs will start haemorrhaging votes to Labour and concentrate the Remain vote. Doubt it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Corbyn gets a B grade. He knows his manifesto back to front and he actually looked reasonably smart. I get why people will vote for him.

    Sturgeon gets an A. It would have been A+ but she failed to understand and therefore answer the "Once in a lifetime" question. Walks, talks and radiates confidence.

    Swinson earned no more than a D. Didn't sound convincing at all and was ripped a new one by her female inquisitors, can't wait to hear the misogynist spin on that particular car crash. As I expected her voting history and past have come back to bite her on the bum.

    Boris was a solid F. I think he might actually have had the wrong exam paper.
    I think Sturgeon knows why you should never argue with an idiot.

    They will drag you down to their level and defeat you with their superior experience.

    Most of the questions from English people were not worthy of an answer. They have been answered up here already, and they have no say on the outcome.

    I'm dieing to leave as I am getting embarrassed by then giving us all this money.

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    Verdict of 326 Politics followers on the leaders' performances on #bbcqt (scores out of 4):

    Nicola Sturgeon: 2.86 (65% positive)
    Jeremy Corbyn: 2.78 (60% positive)
    Boris Johnson: 1.81 (24% positive)
    Jo Swinson: 1.72 (22% positive)
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    Looks like Swinson bombed then.

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    I thought it was a good programme, with the audience asking a number of tough questions. It wasn't the stage managed banality I thought it might have been. I thought Sturgeon and Corbyn perfomed well, Johnson was so-so and Swinson disastrous. I thought Fiona Bruce handled it well too; she didn't allow the politicians to waffle off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    I thought it was a good programme, with the audience asking a number of tough questions. It wasn't the stage managed banality I thought it might have been. I thought Sturgeon and Corbyn perfomed well, Johnson was so-so and Swinson disastrous. I thought Fiona Bruce handled it well too; she didn't allow the politicians to waffle off topic.
    That pretty much sums it up. I liked the format.


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    she's a Gem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibby70 View Post
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    Sturgeon stood out an absolute mile on QT tonight. The rest of the "leaders" are no where near her ability to answer questions.

    Swinson - oh dear, I actually felt embarrassed for her.
    Sturgeon is unlike most politicians in that she is very direct in her answers. I think that resonates with people as could be seen in the positive reaction she received from the audience throughout. Quite remarkable when you think that 95%+ of the Sheffield audience wouldn't be in agreement with Scottish independence.

    A very impressive lady who is very deserving of her 5th consecutive title of Scottish politician of the year.
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    she's a Gem
    In contrast have a read of the BBC's political editor Laura Kuenssberg dismissive comments on Sturgeon's performance. Unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes View Post
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    In contrast have a read of the BBC's political editor Laura Kuenssberg dismissive comments on Sturgeon's performance. Unbelievable.
    She a Tory Jock, one hundred per cent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes View Post
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    In contrast have a read of the BBC's political editor Laura Kuenssberg dismissive comments on Sturgeon's performance. Unbelievable.
    What did she say? Assume if she criticised Sturgeon she annihilated Johnson who was so far out of his depth it was embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    She a Tory Jock, one hundred per cent.
    Think family background is Labour exacutive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    What did she say? Assume if she criticised Sturgeon she annihilated Johnson who was so far out of his depth it was embarrassing.
    The only reference she made to Nicola Sturgeon in her summing up article was:

    'Nicola Sturgeon also faced repeated questions on whether independence for Scotland was viable'

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes View Post
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    The only reference she made to Nicola Sturgeon in her summing up article was:

    'Nicola Sturgeon also faced repeated questions on whether independence for Scotland was viable'
    That's poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Think family background is Labour exacutive.
    Really? I'm surprised to hear that. She always comes across as very establishment. I know she attended private school (that doesn't necessarily make her a Conservative) and isn't she married to a City trader? Again that doesn't make her a Tory, but the tone of her reporting has always made me think she is centre-right. I might be wrong of course, but that's the feeling I've always had.
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    I thought Corbyn did ok to be fair ... not brilliant but he held his own without getting a real kicking.

    Sturgeon was simply her normal assured self, she rarely sounds evasive and when she did avoid a question she admitted to the audience she just didn't want to answer it at that point for reasons I at least could understand. I thought she was missing the guy who asked about 'once in a generation' opening a door for her to give that crap a real kicking, but perhaps she saw a trap developing and that was why she didn't engage with him. Overall it was a very good performance.

    Swinson ... Oh dear, pounded into the dirt and trampled on, simply a car crash.

    Johnson ... Faffle, barf, waffle BREXIT ... refuse to take responsibility for actually being a Tory as if he only came into politics the day he became prime minister ... as somebody else said though it probably wont damage him coz no matter what he does or how much ***** he spouts it seems he gets away with it.

    Winner? .... Nicola Sturgeon without a doubt.

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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...QB8xQj_UEJ1GFc

    more about that gadgy from earlier that was on another QT...

    The Question Time audience member who claimed he wasn't "in the top 50 per cent of British earners" while earning £80,000 can be revealed as an IT consultant and champion professional motorcycle racer.
    Rob "Bullet" Barber, 36, of Bury, in Lancashire, runs race team PBR Racing alongside his dad Phil

    screenshot.4468.jpg dunno if this is true, but if it is....


    the dirty tricks get dirtier each election time, i've lost count of tories/labour candidates dropped from selection due to being unsavoury ****s, i just wish/hope the SNP starts playing dirty for a change for indy2, the unionists will be even dirtier the next time, it's now insulting when johnson/corbyn tell scots how much mega £££'s they want to spend in scotland...shame it's only at election times eh, the £££'s come from OUR resources anyway, they can gtf, they've robbed this country for just too long





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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...QB8xQj_UEJ1GFc

    more about that gadgy from earlier that was on another QT...

    The Question Time audience member who claimed he wasn't "in the top 50 per cent of British earners" while earning £80,000 can be revealed as an IT consultant and champion professional motorcycle racer.
    Rob "Bullet" Barber, 36, of Bury, in Lancashire, runs race team PBR Racing alongside his dad Phil

    screenshot.4468.jpg dunno if this is true, but if it is....


    the dirty tricks get dirtier each election time, i've lost count of tories/labour candidates dropped from selection due to being unsavoury ****s, i just wish/hope the SNP starts playing dirty for a change for indy2, the unionists will be even dirtier the next time, it's now insulting when johnson/corbyn tell scots how much mega £££'s they want to spend in scotland...shame it's only at election times eh, the £££'s come from OUR resources anyway, they can gtf, they've robbed this country for just too long




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    I thought it was a good programme, with the audience asking a number of tough questions. It wasn't the stage managed banality I thought it might have been. I thought Sturgeon and Corbyn perfomed well, Johnson was so-so and Swinson disastrous. I thought Fiona Bruce handled it well too; she didn't allow the politicians to waffle off topic.
    It worked well with none of them getting an easy ride. Sturgeon was head and shoulders above the others. When I watched Corbyn open things I hadn’t thought he had done that well but compared to the remaining two he had a good night. Swinson’s dreams of doing a Clegg must surely be over. Johnson swung between mediocre and poor. It’s depressing that he still looks like remaining as PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    It worked well with none of them getting an easy ride. Sturgeon was head and shoulders above the others. When I watched Corbyn open things I hadn’t thought he had done that well but compared to the remaining two he had a good night. Swinson’s dreams of doing a Clegg must surely be over. Johnson swung between mediocre and poor. It’s depressing that he still looks like remaining as PM.
    I agree, I thought Swinson came across as quite angry tonight, previous lib leaders would have waltzed that questioning. I dont dislike her but she was weak tonight. A shame she was still having to defend Cleggs coalition but that is now a liberal legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Corbyn gets a B grade. He knows his manifesto back to front and he actually looked reasonably smart. I get why people will vote for him.

    Sturgeon gets an A. It would have been A+ but she failed to understand and therefore answer the "Once in a lifetime" question. Walks, talks and radiates confidence.

    Swinson earned no more than a D. Didn't sound convincing at all and was ripped a new one by her female inquisitors, can't wait to hear the misogynist spin on that particular car crash. As I expected her voting history and past have come back to bite her on the bum.

    Boris was a solid F. I think he might actually have had the wrong exam paper.

    I'd give her the A+ as I'm pretty sure she saw that question as a trap and deliberately avoided it, as it would have brought Alex Salmond's name to the fore.

    Other than that, sound marking :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    He earns above 80K per year yet claims he isn't in the top fifty per cent in income
    It was the top 5%. I thought he was a liability, as only people on over 80k a year would empathise, and if Corbyn is right, that's only 5% of the population.

    His wife was even worse. The Labour guy said not all solicitors earn over 80k, he was on 40k when he was a solicitor.

    All she could say was "rubbish."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpj View Post
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    I agree, I thought Swinson came across as quite angry tonight, previous lib leaders would have waltzed that questioning. I dont dislike her but she was weak tonight. A shame she was still having to defend Cleggs coalition but that is now a liberal legacy.
    Funny thing is she had to defend it more than Johnson.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wpj View Post
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    I agree, I thought Swinson came across as quite angry tonight, previous lib leaders would have waltzed that questioning. I dont dislike her but she was weak tonight. A shame she was still having to defend Cleggs coalition but that is now a liberal legacy.

    yes, she came across as very defensive.

    she did very clearly state that the Lib Dems would not enter a coalition with the Torys. That remains to be seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    yes, she came across as very defensive.

    she did very clearly state that the Lib Dems would not enter a coalition with the Torys. That remains to be seen
    I think the Lib Dem experience makes any coalition with the Tories for any party unlikely. I doubt the SNP would enter a coalition with Labour either. They would not want Corbyn crashing the economy on them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I think the Lib Dem experience makes any coalition with the Tories for any party unlikely. I doubt the SNP would enter a coalition with Labour either. They would not want Corbyn crashing the economy on them.


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    I’m not sure there will be a coalition, certainly between any 2 parties, and I don’t see how a larger coalition could work on an ongoing basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Is that supposed to cut people to the quick?

    All it demonstrates is that this woman doesn't have a clue what socialism is if she regards the current labour party as 'extremist'.
    It's just another attempt by an old centrist to paint their own beliefs as being left wing when they really aren't. 'Oh the horror of nationalisation/let's leave it to the private sector/wheres the money coming from/lifelong labour supporter/but but antisemitism'.
    This is nothing new, this time it's just wrapped up in an unfunny video.

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