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    Labour offering free internet for all.

    You just have to hand all your wages over to them and you're sorted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Labour offering free internet for all.

    You just have to hand all your wages over to them and you're sorted.
    More private property getting confiscated. Feel sorry for all the people who have pension funds that might have invested in BT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Labour offering free internet for all.

    You just have to hand all your wages over to them and you're sorted.
    Sounds like the Barnett formula.

    The Plusnet formula.

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    Scottish NHS comes out top again.


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    And yet time after time when both Tory and Labour supporters / MPs trot out their 'get on with the day job' mantra the first thing they do is mention the difficulties of the NHS in Scotland, where nurses are better paid and our waiting times are better than Tory run England or Labour run Wales.

    Being best of a bad bunch isnt exactly something to bum about ... but it certainly doesnt give the rest any right to point out your flaws ... but then why let the truth get in the way of a hypocrisy the BBC and unionist press wont pull you up on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    And yet time after time when both Tory and Labour supporters / MPs trot out their 'get on with the day job' mantra the first thing they do is mention the difficulties of the NHS in Scotland, where nurses are better paid and our waiting times are better than Tory run England or Labour run Wales.

    Being best of a bad bunch isnt exactly something to bum about ... but it certainly doesnt give the rest any right to point out your flaws ... but then why let the truth get in the way of a hypocrisy the BBC and unionist press wont pull you up on.
    As has been said before and it would be good if it was acknowledged........

    Scotland is missing its targets. It is failing, by the standards it sets itself. To repeat, the standards the SNP government set itself. Failing. Consistently and constantly.

    The fact it might be less worse than Wales will be little comfort to you or I or our children, parents or grandparents. When we need treatment we aren’t exactly going to be fussed if it is late but slightly quicker than somebody in Aberystwyth or Wrexham.

    Maybe SG should just pony up and explain why they continually break their own law on treatment times and why they miss all their targets, rather than saying, “...Yeah, we are failing, but we aren’t failing as badly yet as England and Wales”.

    I mean really, is that we are reduced to?
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    Or just set targets we can meet.


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    Or just set targets we can meet.


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    That is up to the SNP government.

    You have to question the guile or competence if they are setting targets that continually get missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    As has been said before and it would be good if it was acknowledged........

    Scotland is missing its targets. It is failing, by the standards it sets itself. To repeat, the standards the SNP government set itself. Failing. Consistently and constantly.

    The fact it might be less worse than Wales will be little comfort to you or I or our children, parents or grandparents. When we need treatment we aren’t exactly going to be fussed if it is late but slightly quicker than somebody in Aberystwyth or Wrexham.

    Maybe SG should just pony up and explain why they continually break their own law on treatment times and why they miss all their targets, rather than saying, “...Yeah, we are failing, but we aren’t failing as badly yet as England and Wales”.

    I mean really, is that we are reduced to?
    Less worse than Wales. Even less worse than England.... and even less worse still than Northern Ireland.

    If the targets were being hit in Scotland, the targets would be getting set even higher and unionists would be complaining about those targets not being hit either. The purpose of them is to push the Scottish NHS to it's absolute best. The SNP could quite easily lower the target to 90% and rub it in to the rest of the UK. But that's not why they set targets in Scotland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Or just set targets we can meet.
    If they set targets that are being met, people would be asking them why they aren't setting the targets even higher. Lowering the target could also make things worse. Better to get 91-92% with a 95% target than 86-87% with a 90% target. By setting targets that are just about impossible to hit, it gets the very best out of the service.

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    Labour offering free internet for all.

    You just have to hand all your wages over to them and you're sorted.
    Add a loony lefty comment in there and you could probably get that on to the front page of the Daily Express.
    It's an idea worth considering. I'd rather see our nations infrastructure in public hands but we do need to see this costed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Add a loony lefty comment in there and you could probably get that on to the front page of the Daily Express.
    It's an idea worth considering. I'd rather see our nations infrastructure in public hands but we do need to see this costed.
    BT are ine of the worst companies I have ever dealt with. The very worst of a privatised monopoly. Take them back as a nationalised monopoly ? What could possibly go wrong? I can only imagine the cost overruns and delays will be even worse from them under the control of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Labour offering free internet for all.

    You just have to hand all your wages over to them and you're sorted.

    According to Curtice their chances of a majority are 'virtually zero' so I guess there's no harm just throwing any old promise into the mix at this stage:

    https://politicshome.com/news/uk/pol...st-zero-claims

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    And yet time after time when both Tory and Labour supporters / MPs trot out their 'get on with the day job' mantra the first thing they do is mention the difficulties of the NHS in Scotland, where nurses are better paid and our waiting times are better than Tory run England or Labour run Wales.

    Being best of a bad bunch isnt exactly something to bum about ... but it certainly doesnt give the rest any right to point out your flaws ... but then why let the truth get in the way of a hypocrisy the BBC and unionist press wont pull you up on.
    Despite the NHS asking not to be used as a political football , politicians continue to do just that.

    Sick to death of empty words about the health service, they would be as well shouting Down With This Sort of Thing.

    Not one of the parties has spoken about the low wages , it's all bollocks about waiting times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G B Young View Post
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    What a shambles of a leader Corbyn is:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-50397033

    If his Brexit policy wasn't muddled enough, his stance on Scottish independence changes with the wind. He deserves to take a pasting at the polls.
    He's now saying that he'd like time after a labour victory to hand Scotland a bung before any referendum would take place. He back tracks faster than an Italian WW2 tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    He's now saying that he'd like time after a labour victory to hand Scotland a bung before any referendum would take place. He back tracks faster than an Italian WW2 tank.
    If it meant staying in the EU and ultra devolution (with provision making it illegal for any of it to be rolled back by future UK goverments) then I might accept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    BT are ine of the worst companies I have ever dealt with. The very worst of a privatised monopoly. Take them back as a nationalised monopoly ? What could possibly go wrong? I can only imagine the cost overruns and delays will be even worse from them under the control of government.
    It’s worse than that. A state monopoly won’t innovate at all. Just now the network is constantly being upgraded as the companies compete to offer faster broadband. A state monopoly will quickly decide we have what we need.


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    BoJo just got owned by Naga Munchetty on BBC

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    BoJo just got owned by Naga Munchetty on BBC
    Absolutely.

    Yet he'll still win a majority at this election and he'll destroy the country further.



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    When he got asked at the end 'how is he relatable to the people of this country' he was completely lost. A simple non political question destroyed him

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    If it meant staying in the EU and ultra devolution (with provision making it illegal for any of it to be rolled back by future UK goverments) then I might accept.
    I think currently that would get a majority of support in Scotland however my issue with it is that we were promised ultra devolution after the referendum and got the square root of f all.

    I just don't trust them to actually deliver it, maybe it would be different with a Labour government supported by the SNP though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willis1875 View Post
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    BoJo just got owned by Naga Munchetty on BBC
    More evidence that this buffoon has been educated well beyond his intelligence. Being thick became an endearing feature around 20 years ago, mainly due to reality TV shows and now we're paying the price.

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    “They wear Burtons suits, they think it’s funny, turning rebellion in to money.”

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    "CBS promote the Clash, their revolution was just for cash"

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    For YES to win indyRef2 we need to attract older people imho. How much would free TV licences for all pensioners cost. Not that much in the grand scheme of things I would suggest.
    I might be wrong, but I haven't seen the SNP commitment to greatly increase pensions in an independent Scotland mentioned in any papers.
    The SNP really need to get the message out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    More evidence that this buffoon has been educated well beyond his intelligence. Being thick became an endearing feature around 20 years ago, mainly due to reality TV shows and now we're paying the price.
    Once again the Tories seem to be putting their leader into situations they just can’t handle. If the leaders a stookie, don’t get them to dance. If they can’t mop floors, relate to ordinary people in a crisis or know the words to the wheels on the bus don’t put them in there.

    They are shaping up to blow their campaign again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    I might be wrong, but I haven't seen the SNP commitment to greatly increase pensions in an independent Scotland mentioned in any papers.
    The SNP really need to get the message out there.

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    I think currently that would get a majority of support in Scotland however my issue with it is that we were promised ultra devolution after the referendum and got the square root of f all.

    I just don't trust them to actually deliver it, maybe it would be different with a Labour government supported by the SNP though.
    Difference being it's not immediately after the referendum and if they depend on us for confidence and supply then we can force it through with whatever amendments we want.

    It imperative that IF Corbyn gets in power, the devolution agreement can not legally be eroded by future PM Rees-Mogg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Once again the Tories seem to be putting their leader into situations they just can’t handle. If the leaders a stookie, don’t get them to dance. If they can’t mop floors, relate to ordinary people in a crisis or know the words to the wheels on the bus don’t put them in there.

    They are shaping up to blow their campaign again.
    They don't have to relate to ordinary people, ordinary people are relating to him. He likes Marmite, The Clash, The Rolling Stones and cooks steak and oven chips.

    He can almost work a microwave, and is pretty good at walking on two legs without scraping his knuckles on the ground.

    He's just as stumped as everyone else about how to fix the situation, so he's alright, and he's the guy to lead us out of this mess. He's loving playing the plucky underdog, and middle Britain is loving it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    As has been said before and it would be good if it was acknowledged........

    Scotland is missing its targets. It is failing, by the standards it sets itself. To repeat, the standards the SNP government set itself. Failing. Consistently and constantly.

    The fact it might be less worse than Wales will be little comfort to you or I or our children, parents or grandparents. When we need treatment we aren’t exactly going to be fussed if it is late but slightly quicker than somebody in Aberystwyth or Wrexham.

    Maybe SG should just pony up and explain why they continually break their own law on treatment times and why they miss all their targets, rather than saying, “...Yeah, we are failing, but we aren’t failing as badly yet as England and Wales”.

    I mean really, is that we are reduced to?

    People in England would appear to wish they had access to the NHS in Scotland
    So the lady in the audience in Brighton, England wishes she had the NHS like we have in Scotland. That's because we have a better government up here. @theSNP
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    Once again the Tories seem to be putting their leader into situations they just can’t handle. If the leaders a stookie, don’t get them to dance. If they can’t mop floors, relate to ordinary people in a crisis or know the words to the wheels on the bus don’t put them in there.

    They are shaping up to blow their campaign again.
    Hiding him away might work, I follow Brazilian politics and after Bolsonaro got stabbed in the run up to their Presidential election he couldn't participate in the debates or be active and his % in the polls actually went up.

    Less is more in some cases.

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