General election 2019

[Jack Hackett]

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Johnson had to have been at least 4 or 5 glasses into the night by this point, Shirley?

Nope... that's him stone cold. Frightening, isn't it?

... and what is it with the orchestra conducting arm waves? Get's right on my thrupennies. It's always the rabble-rousers like Trump... and Hitler.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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he's going to be our next first minister








source: richard leonard

And our old friend Tornadoes. 😉

[CloudSquall]

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The Russian Tory donors story looks to be heating up.

[Mibbes Aye]

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Exactly. Peterhead was bombed 28 times during WW2, but do we ever hear about a Bluemoggeners' Memorial Day? No we don't.

“First they came for the Blue Tooners, and I did not speak out.......”

[Hibrandenburg]

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The Russian Tory donors story looks to be heating up.

Potential dynamite.

[StevieC]

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Cheers, the proposed candidate is a total carcrash IMHO

I agree.

[The Harp Awakes]

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Potential dynamite.

Looks like this story is beginning to gain traction and pressure will build on Boris to publish the report. Are things about to go t1ts up for the tories in this election campaign I wonder?

[Fife-Hibee]

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Looks like this story is beginning to gain traction and pressure will build on Boris to publish the report. Are things about to go t1ts up for the tories in this election campaign I wonder?

It all feels like it's by design. Are the tories trying to lose this election? They must have surely known before the call for an election that there was a good chance this would crop up? Could the economy be heading to **** and they're trying to jump ship before it does?

[Ozyhibby]

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It all feels like it's by design. Are the tories trying to lose this election? They must have surely known before the call for an election that there was a good chance this would crop up? Could the economy be heading to **** and they're trying to jump ship before it does?

Depends if releasing it is worse than the flack they take for not releasing it? I think it only becomes a big issue if it gets leaked. If not it will fizzle out by the end of this week.


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[Ozyhibby]

Another tactical voting website, this time run by Gina Miller and it includes Scotland.
https://www.remainunited.org/
It correctly says ‘no recommendation’ for my Edin West constituency so a good start.


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[danhibees1875]

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Another tactical voting website, this time run by Gina Miller and it includes Scotland.
https://www.remainunited.org/
It correctly says ‘no recommendation’ for my Edin West constituency so a good start.


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"Postcode could not be matched" - don't agree with all their policies but if it helps stop Brexit they'll get my vote.

[Jones28]

Sanjir Javid talking more about labours manifesto than his own on Andrew Marr.

[marinello59]

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Sanjir Javid talking more about labours manifesto than his own on Andrew Marr.

That’s the manifesto that hasn’t been published yet.

[Jones28]

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That’s the manifesto that hasn’t been published yet.

The one the Tories claim is going to cost £650,000,000 a day.

[Cataplana]

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Sanjir Javid talking more about labours manifesto than his own on Andrew Marr.

That guy gives me the creeps. He reminds me of "The Hood" in Thunderbirds.

[Frankhfc]

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It all feels like it's by design. Are the tories trying to lose this election? They must have surely known before the call for an election that there was a good chance this would crop up? Could the economy be heading to **** and they're trying to jump ship before it does?

Agree with you it does have that feel about it. Shouldn't matter though as independence is probably closer than its ever been before. The last referendum was an expected loss but I don't think it will be that way next time around. Quite possibly the rest of the UK are content to cut Scotland loose and let it go its own way.

[marinello59]

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The one the Tories claim is going to cost £650,000,000 a day.

The very one. Meanwhile a Tory minister on Sky refuses to reveal their own spending plans.

[Hibbyradge]

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Another tactical voting website, this time run by Gina Miller and it includes Scotland.
https://www.remainunited.org/
It correctly says ‘no recommendation’ for my Edin West constituency so a good start.


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Yes, that one seems better.

The other one recommended voting LD in my constituency, but Labour were clear 2nd last time.

Labour it is.

[lucky]

This election is not going to anywhere as clear cut as the so called experts are saying. In Scotland we’ve got the independence and Brexit which could sway people away from their normal voting intentions. In England and Wales I think lots of seats will change hands because of Brexit and the personalities of the leaders. I think we will end up with a hung parliament, which in itself will be interesting. If the snp hold the balance of power and they’ve already ruled out supporting BJ that does not give them a strong hand to get a deal with JC.

If Corbyn gets into number 10 then telling the SNP that a second referendum can take place if the majority of Scots vote for pro independence parties in the 2021 Scottish parliamentary election this would be a good compromise. Labour would have two years to prove their worth in government and the Scottish people could decide the independence question in 2022.

[Jones28]

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The very one. Meanwhile a Tory minister on Sky refuses to reveal their own spending plans.

Javid was the same. He refused to reveal any detail about their own costings.

[Jones28]

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That guy gives me the creeps. He reminds me of "The Hood" in Thunderbirds.

Aw ****! That’s why I find him so weird!

[Hibbyradge]

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This election is not going to anywhere as clear cut as the so called experts are saying. In Scotland we’ve got the independence and Brexit which could sway people away from their normal voting intentions. In England and Wales I think lots of seats will change hands because of Brexit and the personalities of the leaders. I think we will end up with a hung parliament, which in itself will be interesting. If the snp hold the balance of power and they’ve already ruled out supporting BJ that does not give them a strong hand to get a deal with JC.

If Corbyn gets into number 10 then telling the SNP that a second referendum can take place if the majority of Scots vote for pro independence parties in the 2021 Scottish parliamentary election this would be a good compromise. Labour would have two years to prove their worth in government and the Scottish people could decide the independence question in 2022.

During an election campaign, you can ignore any any pledges about ruling out working without other parties.

It'll be a case of who blinks first should that situation arise.

The SNP will deal with the Tories if they're the only party which guarantees them Indyref 2.

Sure, they'd be keeping them in power, but that won't stop people in Scotland voting Yes. In fact, the prospect of continuing with Diana as PM, would shore up the pro-indy vote.

[Ozyhibby]

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This election is not going to anywhere as clear cut as the so called experts are saying. In Scotland we’ve got the independence and Brexit which could sway people away from their normal voting intentions. In England and Wales I think lots of seats will change hands because of Brexit and the personalities of the leaders. I think we will end up with a hung parliament, which in itself will be interesting. If the snp hold the balance of power and they’ve already ruled out supporting BJ that does not give them a strong hand to get a deal with JC.

If Corbyn gets into number 10 then telling the SNP that a second referendum can take place if the majority of Scots vote for pro independence parties in the 2021 Scottish parliamentary election this would be a good compromise. Labour would have two years to prove their worth in government and the Scottish people could decide the independence question in 2022.

There is no way the SNP would accept that from Corbyn.
The SNP have a mandate now and if Labour want power then they will have to allow the referendum and a whole lot more. There will be more powers coming to holyrood no matter what.
And Labour will take the deal because why wouldn’t they?


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[lucky]

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There is no way the SNP would accept that from Corbyn.
The SNP have a mandate now and if Labour want power then they will have to allow the referendum and a whole lot more. There will be more powers coming to holyrood no matter what.
And Labour will take the deal because why wouldn’t they?


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Why would Labour offer a referendum now? The SNP will have a choice back Corbyn or Johnston is back in power with no chance of a referendum. For the record I believe it should the a Scottish Parliament that decides when and if there should be a second once in a generation referendum.

[Frankhfc]

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There is no way the SNP would accept that from Corbyn.
The SNP have a mandate now and if Labour want power then they will have to allow the referendum and a whole lot more. There will be more powers coming to holyrood no matter what.
And Labour will take the deal because why wouldn’t they?


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I agree.

Its looking as if its going to be either a labour led pact of parties or a tory one. If its labour and the snp then a soon to be referendum will certainly be part of the package and independence will win it. Even a tory led one would very probably break apart sooner or later. Independence appears very close indeed.

[Cataplana]

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Why would Labour offer a referendum now? The SNP will have a choice back Corbyn or Johnston is back in power with no chance of a referendum. For the record I believe it should the a Scottish Parliament that decides when and if there should be a second once in a generation referendum.

I love the way people pick and choose which promises they remember. The once in a generation statement came out at the same time we were told a no vote was the only way to guarantee EU membership.

[marinello59]

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I love the way people pick and choose which promises they remember. The once in a generation statement came out at the same time we were told a no vote was the only way to guarantee EU membership.

The difference being we were never told it was a once in a generation thing before we voted. That is a much repeated lie. Alex Salmond expressed a personal opinion about it probably being a once in a generation thing which has been taken completely taken out of context.

[Cataplana]

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The difference being we were never told it was a once in a generation thing before we voted. That is a much repeated lie. Alex Salmond expressed a personal opinion about it probably being a once in a generation thing which has been taken completely taken out of context.

You could say the same things about The Vow.

[G B Young]

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The difference being we were never told it was a once in a generation thing before we voted. That is a much repeated lie. Alex Salmond expressed a personal opinion about it probably being a once in a generation thing which has been taken completely taken out of context.

Here is what Salmond said to Andrew Marr ahead of the 2014 vote:

When pressed by Marr on whether he would attempt to bring back another referendum should the no vote prevail, Scotland's First Minister said that would not occur within "this political generation". Asked to define what he meant by that, Salmond said: "If you remember that previous constitutional referendum in Scotland - there was one in 1979 and then the next one was 1997. That's what I mean by a political generation.

"However, in my opinion this is a once in a generation, perhaps even a once in a lifetime opportunity for Scotland."

Based on that, and the fact those words came from the man who was First Minister for Scotland at the time, I think the electorate were entitled to see that as the accepted view.

[G B Young]

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Why would Labour offer a referendum now? The SNP will have a choice back Corbyn or Johnston is back in power with no chance of a referendum. For the record I believe it should the a Scottish Parliament that decides when and if there should be a second once in a generation referendum.

'Why Sturgeon's indyref pact with Corbyn will never come to pass':

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...pass-1-5042892