General election 2019

[weecounty hibby]

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Looking good, but let's not be complacent Indy fans, we still need to get out and vote. Especially where tactical voting between the newly formed parties of Condems/labory/labdems are all about keeping Scotland to heel.

[Frankhfc]

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If they were to take 12% in Scotland it would be the worst result for Labour in Scotland in 100 years.


In Scotland I just can't see where they will pick up votes from outside of those who hardcore believe in Corbyn's vision for the UK, unionists are going to vote for the Tories or Lib Dems, remainers will vote SNP or Lib Dem.

Davidson squeezed them on the indepdendence question, the SNP has squeezed them from the left, and I don't think anyone outside of those who take a strong interest in politics would know who Richard Leonhard actually is.

Completely screwed in other words.

A decent summary.

Labour are completely irrelevant in Scotland now. Its looking likely they're going to lose ground in both England and Wales also. They're fast disappearing up their own behinds which is sad to see as they're a party that has done many good things in the past but are virtually unelectable in their present state and even a change of leader wouldn't solve all of their deep rooted problems.

[Moulin Yarns]

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If they were to take 12% in Scotland it would be the worst result for Labour in Scotland in 100 years.


In Scotland I just can't see where they will pick up votes from outside of those who hardcore believe in Corbyn's vision for the UK, unionists are going to vote for the Tories or Lib Dems, remainers will vote SNP or Lib Dem.

Davidson squeezed them on the indepdendence question, the SNP has squeezed them from the left, and I don't think anyone outside of those who take a strong interest in politics would know who Richard Leonhard actually is.

Completely screwed in other words.

Who is this Richard Leonard you speak of? Is this a fabled norse god or some fictional superhero like the green lantern?

[weecounty hibby]

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A decent summary.

Labour are completely irrelevant in Scotland now. Its looking likely they're going to lose ground in both England and Wales also. They're fast disappearing up their own behinds which is sad to see as they're a party that has done many good things in the past but are virtually unelectable in their present state and even a change of leader wouldn't solve all of their deep rooted problems.

The problem I see for Labour us that they don't seem to have any defined stance on very much at the moment. Brexit, sit in the fence. Indyref2 Leaned says one thing and the London head office say another. Their fiscal figures for government look completely made up with billions of pounds being plucked out if thin air. It is sad as in an independent Scotland a Labour party would probably have got my vote. Just can't see them as credible though

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Who is this Richard Leonard you speak of? Is this a fabled norse god or some fictional superhero like the green lantern?

he's going to be our next first minister








source: richard leonard

[CloudSquall]

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Who is this Richard Leonard you speak of? Is this a fabled norse god or some fictional superhero like the green lantern?

I was calling him Richard Lionheart for about 6 months until I realised that's actually a 12th century English King

[Moulin Yarns]

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he's going to be our next first minister








source: richard leonard

Funny, someone called Jo Swinson thinks she is the next prime minister.


Methinks neither are right. 😁

[Dalianwanda]

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he's going to be our next first minister








source: richard leonard

Whats the sit on the fence? Get in, negotiate a deal, put that deal to a vote. Its pretty clear cut.

[Ozyhibby]

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Interesting snapshot.

Snp doing fine with the tories losing ground as expected and the Lib Dems increasing their share.

Its Labour that's deep in the dug kite. If that's reflected across the UK they're in for a hard night come the GE.

Polls have been known to get it wrong lately but its looking grim for Labour.

I think Labour won’t do as bad down south as they will here.


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[Frankhfc]

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The problem I see for Labour us that they don't seem to have any defined stance on very much at the moment. Brexit, sit in the fence. Indyref2 Leaned says one thing and the London head office say another. Their fiscal figures for government look completely made up with billions of pounds being plucked out if thin air. It is sad as in an independent Scotland a Labour party would probably have got my vote. Just can't see them as credible though

Agree with you on all of this.

Labour would bankrupt Scotland in a very short time indeed. They're the party of total fiscal irresponsibility and wanton profligacy. They're on a downward spiral thankfully.

[Ozyhibby]

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Who is this Richard Leonard you speak of? Is this a fabled norse god or some fictional superhero like the green lantern?

He’s an absolute gift for the SNP.
I can’t think of any political leader as uninspiring in my lifetime. I doubt half the population of Scotland could tell who he was.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

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Funny, someone called Jo Swinson thinks she is the next prime minister.


Methinks neither are right. 😁

surprised she omitted that from her own personal battle bus

[Frankhfc]

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I think Labour won’t do as bad down south as they will here.


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They won't but it isn't that difficult a target as they're virtually non-existent and largely irrelevant up here now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

kristene hair wearing a bluetooth earpiece during QT last night......wonder what she needed that for, she did appear quite robotic at times, staring into space as well

[Glory Lurker]

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kristene hair wearing a bluetooth earpiece during QT last night......wonder what she needed that for, she did appear quite robotic at times, staring into space as well

SNP gain.

[lapsedhibee]

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Whats the sit on the fence? Get in, negotiate a deal, put that deal to a vote. Its pretty clear cut.

It is very clear but unfortunately can't be put into a 3-word slogan.

Get Brexit Done
Not For Sale
Bollocks To Brexit

Most of this election is politics for four-year-olds.

[Bristolhibby]

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Agree with you on all of this.

Labour would bankrupt Scotland in a very short time indeed. They're the party of total fiscal irresponsibility and wanton profligacy. They're on a downward spiral thankfully.

I give you the Tory “money tree”.

J

[Colr]

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Whats the sit on the fence? Get in, negotiate a deal, put that deal to a vote. Its pretty clear cut.

With some senior figures campaigning to remain and against the deal they have just negotiated.

Perfectly clear.

[lord bunberry]

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Don't know if anyone saw QT last night, but Barry Gardiner had Hamza Useless on toast. The guy is a definite weak link for the SNP.

Otherwise, I was proud of the quality of the debate and contributions from the audience. A million miles from the monosyllabic contributions when the programme is broadcast from Oop Nath.

Special mention has to go to the Tory mouthpiece, although she soldiered on she kept getting caught, I thought she was going to burst into tears at one point.

That wasn’t the impression I got, I thought Hamza came across very well. Gardiner trying to bring up the Salmond court case was despicable imo.

[Mr Grieves]

Since nobody has got his name right yet, it's Humza Yousaf

[Hibrandenburg]

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Since nobody has got his name right yet, it's Humza Yousaf

I actually googled it and still got it wrong.

[HiBremian]

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It is very clear but unfortunately can't be put into a 3-word slogan.

Get Brexit Done
Not For Sale
Bollocks To Brexit

Most of this election is politics for four-year-olds.

Do Or Don’t?


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[The Harp Awakes]

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kristene hair wearing a bluetooth earpiece during QT last night......wonder what she needed that for, she did appear quite robotic at times, staring into space as well

Yes, watched QT last night and I found her manner very strange. Her face was expressionless and she seemed detached from reality - even more so than tories are generally. Was quite funny when she proclaimed Boris cares deeply about Scotland and most of the audience p1shed themselves laughing

[mjhibby]

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A decent summary.

Labour are completely irrelevant in Scotland now. Its looking likely they're going to lose ground in both England and Wales also. They're fast disappearing up their own behinds which is sad to see as they're a party that has done many good things in the past but are virtually unelectable in their present state and even a change of leader wouldn't solve all of their deep rooted problems.

A change of leader may not solve all labours problems but it will rid them of having a leader who is unelectable. It's looking bleak for them and it will only be our Nigel's party polling better than the polls suggest that will stop Johnson getting a majority. Mind you if it's all about brexit then Johnson will not get a majority as I've a feeling more and more folk are realising that leave only have downsides. Will be such a tricky result to call and hopefully johnson falls a few seats short. I suspect he will probably miss out by ten to fifteen and with the dup likely to lose a few seats the only coalition the Tories could get is with the libdems. I doubt that would happen but stranger things have happened and the libdems have form for it.
Btw until labour stop being ruled by momentum they won't go close to getting a majority.

[Fife-Hibee]

It would seem that a party candidate is missing for the 2019 general election in East Dunbartonshire.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_D...s_in_the_2010s

[Stairway 2 7]

Should be a clean sweep almost for snp. Although looking like a Boris government so pretty pointless as he won't allow for an official independence vote in his 5 years so pretty pointless

[Cataplana]

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That wasn’t the impression I got, I thought Hamza came across very well. Gardiner trying to bring up the Salmond court case was despicable imo.

Fairs fair, I was a wee bit pished at the time. I can't remember much about it. When did Yousuf get the better of Gardiner?

[lapsedhibee]

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Do Or Don’t?

Seventeen million people.

[Ozyhibby]

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Should be a clean sweep almost for snp. Although looking like a Boris government so pretty pointless as he won't allow for an official independence vote in his 5 years so pretty pointless

I doubt he will be able to suspend democracy that long.


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[Hibby70]

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surprised she omitted that from her own personal battle bus

Do they chant "Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats" to the same tune of "New Manager's Green and White Army"