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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Our NATO ally Turkey's president is now threatening Europe with opening the floodgates to Europe for 3.5 million Syrian refugees if Europe so much as criticizes Turkey's military action. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Erdogan, Trump and Putin are in cahoots, sowing unrest in Europe would suit all 3 of them.
    I think it’s almost certain that Trump is doing this for personal reasons. There is zero benefit to the US in all this. He’ll get caught eventually. The damage to the US from this is massive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I think it’s almost certain that Trump is doing this for personal reasons. There is zero benefit to the US in all this. He’ll get caught eventually. The damage to the US from this is massive.


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    Trump looks at the world with the eyes of a hustler. He sees the EU and China as competition, he's been trying to whip up unrest in both since his first day in office. If the competition is dealing with other **** then that means opportunities for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Trump looks at the world with the eyes of a hustler. He sees the EU and China as competition, he's been trying to whip up unrest in both since his first day in office. If the competition is dealing with other **** then that means opportunities for him.
    Renting out US troops to Saudi seems Consistent with that.

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    Renting out US troops to Saudi seems Consistent with that.
    One day he is declaring that he has had enough policing the world and bringing home the troops, the next day he is sending them to Saudi Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudSquall View Post
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    One day he is declaring that he has had enough policing the world and bringing home the troops, the next day he is sending them to Saudi Arabia.
    MBS has something on him. Once again this is in his own personal interest.


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    Must be because of Saudi's support at Normandy

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    I would have thought this was quite a rare thing. The US military is criticising the US presidents decision.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I would have thought this was quite a rare thing. The US military is criticising the US presidents decision.


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    There is no rules or normality when it comes to Trump and his actions.

    He’s progressively getting more and more volatile.

    This time he’s given Turkey the green light to attack, the very same day saying he will destroy them if they use the green light to do anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    There is no rules or normality when it comes to Trump and his actions.

    He’s progressively getting more and more volatile.

    This time he’s given Turkey the green light to attack, the very same day saying he will destroy them if they use the green light to do anything...
    ... and then doing nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    ... and then doing nothing
    Indeed.

    Almost 800 ISIS escaped last night thanks to the Turks.

    Quality work from Trump on this one.

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    Indeed.

    Almost 800 ISIS escaped last night thanks to the Turks.

    Quality work from Trump on this one.

    Reports now that Assad has agreed with the Kurds to send troops to fight with the Kurds to try to prevent the occupation of a number of key towns in northern Syria,

    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/st...26638899531777


    ISIS starts up again and Turkey and Syria about to go to war, Trump's outdone himself on this one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudSquall View Post
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    Reports now that Assad has agreed with the Kurds to send troops to fight with the Kurds to try to prevent the occupation of a number of key towns in northern Syria,

    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/st...26638899531777


    ISIS starts up again and Turkey and Syria about to go to war, Trump's outdone himself on this one..
    ... But, but... "Great and unmatched wisdom"

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    President Donald Trump

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    Reports now that Assad has agreed with the Kurds to send troops to fight with the Kurds to try to prevent the occupation of a number of key towns in northern Syria,

    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/st...26638899531777


    ISIS starts up again and Turkey and Syria about to go to war, Trump's outdone himself on this one..
    And with Turkey being a member of NATO then we’re all going to be in the poo.


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    " BREAKING US Def. Sec. claims Turkey is 'likely to expand its attack further South" than planned & that Kurds are trying to ally with Russia & Assad for help. US misled by 1 NATO ally & now its former ally is hooking up with Russia. Diplomatic failure, almost military humiliation."

    https://twitter.com/BillNeelyNBC/sta...66039360413696


    Stab the Kurds in the back and have them become a Russian ally, Putin didn't even have to lift a finger..

    But hey...we've got a couple of Trump Towers in Istanbul...

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    Asked about the potential threat posed by Isis-related prisoners, he shrugged: “They’re going to be escaping to Europe.”

    Helpful to his policy of destabilising the EU as a trading competitor then. Unmatched wisdom .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudSquall View Post
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    " BREAKING US Def. Sec. claims Turkey is 'likely to expand its attack further South" than planned & that Kurds are trying to ally with Russia & Assad for help. US misled by 1 NATO ally & now its former ally is hooking up with Russia. Diplomatic failure, almost military humiliation."

    https://twitter.com/BillNeelyNBC/sta...66039360413696


    Stab the Kurds in the back and have them become a Russian ally, Putin didn't even have to lift a finger..

    But hey...we've got a couple of Trump Towers in Istanbul...
    Trump has found it very hard to resist helping Putin in every decision he makes for some reason.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Asked about the potential threat posed by Isis-related prisoners, he shrugged: “They’re going to be escaping to Europe.”

    Helpful to his policy of destabilising the EU as a trading competitor then. Unmatched wisdom .
    Trump said this? And we want to rely on him for our post Brexit economic future? Blimey.

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    11th October - A new book about Trump's behaviour towards women is forthcoming. Twenty-six women make new allegations of sexual assault. One day the full truth will surely be revealed, exposing Trump as a super predator. These things can't remain secret forever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    11th October - A new book about Trump's behaviour towards women is forthcoming. Twenty-six women make new allegations of sexual assault. One day the full truth will surely be revealed, exposing Trump as a super predator. These things can't remain secret forever.


    2 days ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    2 days ago?
    The video was posted by David Pakman on his You Tube channel two days ago. He doesn't give the release date of the book, which is called 'All The President's Women'; a wee evocation of Nixon there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Trump said this? And we want to rely on him for our post Brexit economic future? Blimey.
    Absolutely scandalous this is

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    Brexit and this idiot are proving that a significant minority (majority?) of the population both here and over the pond are quite happy to dispense with the rule of law if it means getting what they want. Don't hold your breath.
    History proves that. The reason people are so fascinated and horrified by the Nazis is because normal people allowed it to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    ... But, but... "Great and unmatched wisdom"
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    The man is a total erse
    BBC News - Turkey-Syria offensive: Not our problem, says Donald Trump
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50075703

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    He's like a parody; he'd be hilarious if it weren't reality.

    Just when you think it can't get more bizarre, you read about his letter to Erdogan and recent meeting with Pelosi and co.

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    What are people expecting Trump to do in this situation, he did not create the mess in Syria.

    Are people really expecting the USA to fight along side the Kurds against a fellow NATO ally in Turkey? Do they want American sons & daughters caught up and being killed in a conflict between the Kurds and the Turks?

    Does Turkey not have a right to defend it's border from the Kurds, have the Kurds themselves not occupied territory that is not theirs?

    The USA have nothing to gain from maintaining a presence in Syria, especially baring in mind that they are currently in that country illegally.

    The real focus should be on the administration who supplied arms and funding to the headchopping extreme Sunny terrorists done so in an effort to topple Assad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavers View Post
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    What are people expecting Trump to do in this situation, he did not create the mess in Syria.

    Are people really expecting the USA to fight along side the Kurds against a fellow NATO ally in Turkey? Do they want American sons & daughters caught up and being killed in a conflict between the Kurds and the Turks?

    Does Turkey not have a right to defend it's border from the Kurds, have the Kurds themselves not occupied territory that is not theirs?

    The USA have nothing to gain from maintaining a presence in Syria, especially baring in mind that they are currently in that country illegally.

    The real focus should be on the administration who supplied arms and funding to the headchopping extreme Sunny terrorists done so in an effort to topple Assad.
    Are the kurds attacking the Turkish border?

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    From CNN reporter..

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    Pelosi says Trump told her during meeting that reason he pulled troops out of Syria was because of promise he made on campaign to bring them home.

    Pelosi told Trump: “Is Saudi Arabia home?”

    Pelosi says Trump responded: Saudis are “paying for it.”

    ""

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Are the kurds attacking the Turkish border?

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    The YPG have attacked before.

    But the point remains, what is it your expecting Trump to do here? Continue illegally occupying Syria to protect the Kurds?

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    The YPG have attacked before.

    But the point remains, what is it your expecting Trump to do here? Continue illegally occupying Syria to protect the Kurds?
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