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**~~Hibeesmad~~** · 10-10-2019 11:44 AM

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Looking forward to the World Cup kicking off, I think the All Blacks will win it but there will be some fantastic spectacles. I've got an each way bet on Josh Adams to finish top goalscorer @ 25-1 paying 7 places.

Adams recently moved to Cardiff Blues from Worcester due to a Welsh Rugby Union rule that if you have less than 60 caps and don't play for a team in Wales, you do not get selected for the national team.

Hat-trick for Mr Adams yesterday

***Mantis Toboggan*** · 10-10-2019 12:14 PM

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Agreed. They have only cancelled games that were fairly meaningless so far though (although I suppose France might’ve fancied topping the group).

Sergio Parisse would disagree https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...p-cancellation
While NZ would almost certainly have beaten Italy, you have to feel that his comment about what would have happened in the inverse scenario is spot on, which is why the cancellation undermines the integrity of the tournament

**lyonhibs** · 10-10-2019 12:17 PM

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Sergio Parisse would disagree https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...p-cancellation
While NZ would almost certainly have beaten Italy, you have to feel that his comment about what would have happened in the inverse scenario is spot on, which is why the cancellation undermines the integrity of the tournament

Steve Hansen coming across as a bit of **** in that article, perhaps not surprisingly.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 10-10-2019 12:24 PM

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Sergio Parisse would disagree https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...p-cancellation
While NZ would almost certainly have beaten Italy, you have to feel that his comment about what would have happened in the inverse scenario is spot on, which is why the cancellation undermines the integrity of the tournament

it’s a fair point. There’s another player that’s worked hard through rehab to be fit for a short cameo in that match as well.

It’s a pity that NZ didn’t need the points cos we’d have seen a contingency then.

What a shambles - decision for the Scotland game is on Sunday which means there’s no time to play the game elsewhere. They should all be on a train just now to a place that’s safe - play the game behind closed doors in a stadium with a roof.

hfc rd · 10-10-2019 03:56 PM

It’s been a very good World Cup so far but this will just make a massive mockery of the sport and it’s lack of sporting integrity if a nation is knocked out because of the weather!

Was only a kid back then but my dad mentioned that South Africa’s World Cup semi final in 95 was almost cancelled because of heavy rain and if it had been cancelled, France would have progressed to the final because they had a better disciplinary record than South Africa – that was to be the tie-breaker if necessary.

As 1-2 other posters have mentioned, if Sunday’s game was to affect England, New Zealand, Australia etc being knocked out because of the weather, you can bet your bottom dollar World Rugby will be doing everything they can to ensure the game was to go ahead.

I’ve got nothing against Japan as it is a beautiful country and the people are very nice and friendly over there. However it further begs the question why the f*** did they let Japan host this tournament, knowing that it is prone to typhoons and other adverse weather conditions during this time of the year? If the tournament was to be held in Japan, surely playing it in the summer would have been the more sensible decision.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 10-10-2019 04:14 PM

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It’s been a very good World Cup so far but this will just make a massive mockery of the sport and it’s lack of sporting integrity if a nation is knocked out because of the weather!

Was only a kid back then but my dad mentioned that South Africa’s World Cup semi final in 95 was almost cancelled because of heavy rain and if it had been cancelled, France would have progressed to the final because they had a better disciplinary record than South Africa – that was to be the tie-breaker if necessary.

As 1-2 other posters have mentioned, if Sunday’s game was to affect England, New Zealand, Australia etc being knocked out because of the weather, you can bet your bottom dollar World Rugby will be doing everything they can to ensure the game was to go ahead.

I’ve got nothing against Japan as it is a beautiful country and the people are very nice and friendly over there. However it further begs the question why the f*** did they let Japan host this tournament, knowing that it is prone to typhoons and other adverse weather conditions during this time of the year? If the tournament was to be held in Japan, surely playing it in the summer would have been the more sensible decision.

Playing it in our summer would mean it’d disrupt the Southern Hemisphere season though...

And I too was only a kid in 95 (honest) and I remember that. Sure the semi was played in a swimming pool - it would normally have been called off but better to crack on than rely on disciplinary records.

Different sport but I remember ROI going to the next stage of the football World Cup on the toss of a coin.

***JimBHibees*** · 10-10-2019 04:42 PM

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Playing it in our summer would mean it’d disrupt the Southern Hemisphere season though...

And I too was only a kid in 95 (honest) and I remember that. Sure the semi was played in a swimming pool - it would normally have been called off but better to crack on than rely on disciplinary records.

Different sport but I remember ROI going to the next stage of the football World Cup on the toss of a coin.

That was because two teams were completely level after playing all the group games.

***JimBHibees*** · 10-10-2019 04:44 PM

It is an absolute shambles to be honest. Surely they could have been moved to behind closed doors on say Monday at a stadium with a roof? Incredible there seems to be a rule that pool games cannot be moved which seems very random and specific. Apparently there have been 19 typhoons in this season.

***JimBHibees*** · 10-10-2019 04:45 PM

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Steve Hansen coming across as a bit of **** in that article, perhaps not surprisingly.

Certainly did. Ridiculous comments and hugely disrespectful to other teams. Hope they get horsed.

**Sir David Gray** · 10-10-2019 05:45 PM

How can you possibly train for four years, preparing for the biggest tournament of your career and then get told your team's eliminated because of the weather?

There's six days between the Japan game and the Quarter Finals starting and even if the typhoon is bad on Sunday and the match can't go ahead, surely they could play it on Monday instead and whatever team progresses would still have enough rest before their Quarter Final.

hfc rd · 10-10-2019 07:19 PM

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Playing it in our summer would mean it’d disrupt the Southern Hemisphere season though...

And I too was only a kid in 95 (honest) and I remember that. Sure the semi was played in a swimming pool - it would normally have been called off but better to crack on than rely on disciplinary records.

Different sport but I remember ROI going to the next stage of the football World Cup on the toss of a coin.

Fair enough if it couldn’t be possible to stage it during the summer. But surely to God you would have had a couple of back up plans in place, just in case these situations arised which was always going to be very likely during this time of the year.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 10-10-2019 07:27 PM

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Fair enough if it couldn’t be possible to stage it during the summer. But surely to God you would have had a couple of back up plans in place, just in case these situations arised which was always going to be very likely during this time of the year.

It is possible but they hardly ever do it. I can only remember the 1995 WC being played in May/June all the others have been October/November - which I assume to be to suit the Southern Hemisphere teams.

***Speedy*** · 10-10-2019 10:15 PM

Total shambles. No integrity at all in the sport after this.

hfc rd · 10-10-2019 11:30 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50008474

Sorry Mr Jones, you wouldn’t be saying that if it was England that found themselves in Scotland’s position. All it does is show a lack of sporting integrity and makes a massive mockery of the sport on its very own biggest stage.

***JimBHibees*** · 11-10-2019 05:38 AM

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How can you possibly train for four years, preparing for the biggest tournament of your career and then get told your team's eliminated because of the weather?

There's six days between the Japan game and the Quarter Finals starting and even if the typhoon is bad on Sunday and the match can't go ahead, surely they could play it on Monday instead and whatever team progresses would still have enough rest before their Quarter Final.

Agree they know the time of year they were playing in so some contingency should have been built in. Can't see it going ahead to be honest which would be shambolic for the tournament. You can bet your bottom dollar they would be moving heaven and earth if one of the bigger teams or probably even Japan was going to go out in this way.

**The Pointer** · 11-10-2019 07:55 AM

Good to hear Mark Dodson taking a robust attitude to this on the radio this morning, questioning why it isn't possible to play the game on Monday. The organisers have dug their heels in but the SRU have asked a QC to look at the agreement they have with World Rugby.

If the game doesn't go ahead I think we say to them, right, we start the next World Cup with 4 points.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 11-10-2019 08:04 AM

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Good to hear Mark Dodson taking a robust attitude to this on the radio this morning, questioning why it isn't possible to play the game on Monday. The organisers have dug their heels in but the SRU have asked a QC to look at the agreement they have with World Rugby.

If the game doesn't go ahead I think we say to them, right, we start the next World Cup with 4 points.

They could make a decision earlier and move the game to somewhere that won’t be affected - play it at the scheduled time and behind closed doors if need be.

I’m not sure about starting the next one with 4 points is an option though - that’d just make a farce of 2 tournaments. I’d prefer a by to the final.

hfc rd · 11-10-2019 11:25 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCSPORTN...49916339470336

The pitch for Ireland - Samoa game tomorrow looks horrendous. Injuries galore.

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 11-10-2019 11:56 AM

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https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCSPORTN...49916339470336

The pitch for Ireland - Samoa game tomorrow looks horrendous. Injuries galore.

Is that Tynecastle?

hfc rd · 11-10-2019 12:40 PM

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Is that Tynecastle?

Looks too small a ground to be Tynecastle.

***Golden Bear*** · 11-10-2019 12:50 PM

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They could make a decision earlier and move the game to somewhere that won’t be affected - play it at the scheduled time and behind closed doors if need be.

I’m not sure about starting the next one with 4 points is an option though - that’d just make a farce of 2 tournaments. I’d prefer a by to the final.

Absolutely correct.

The unknown factor is the possible damage to the infrastructure (roads, bridges, railways, buildings etc) which can't be repaired within 24 hours. However I can't see any reason why the game can't be moved to another part of Japan which hasn't been affected by the tornado.

I wonder if the same scenario would have played out if it was the case that Scotland had the narrowest of advantages going into the game v Japan? I think not.

**nellio** · 11-10-2019 01:21 PM

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50008474

Sorry Mr Jones, you wouldn’t be saying that if it was England that found themselves in Scotland’s position. All it does is show a lack of sporting integrity and makes a massive mockery of the sport on its very own biggest stage.

Absolute clown. Really hope that Australia annihilate them.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 11-10-2019 03:01 PM

The projected typhoon track takes it right through Yokohama on the Saturday where the game is due to be played on Sunday. I guess it is a wait and see what damage has been caused rather than the weather affecting the game, but it could and should go ahead at another venue or behind closed doors. Imagine the scenario that Samoa beat Ireland

and Scotland is awarded the 2 points as the game is cancelled. Assume Ireland still get a bonus point and so are on 12 points, Scotland would also be on 12 points. We would be out because of the defeat to Ireland

hfc rd · 11-10-2019 06:08 PM

Eddie Jones - "It's typhoon season, so you go somewhere else and it's terrorists season. You know what's going to happen”.

What an utter bellend! Guy really is a Grade A prick.

**Steve-O** · 11-10-2019 08:20 PM

The ludicrous assertion I keep seeing in NZ is “well you just should’ve beat Ireland and you wouldn’t be in this position”. That is the kind of apathy being shown here in many quarters. The whole thing is bugging me more than I ever thought I could be bugged by rugby!

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 11-10-2019 09:48 PM

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The ludicrous assertion I keep seeing in NZ is “well you just should’ve beat Ireland and you wouldn’t be in this position”. That is the kind of apathy being shown here in many quarters. The whole thing is bugging me more than I ever thought I could be bugged by rugby!

It’s like they don’t understand 2 teams get out of the group in the World Cup.

Just shows they don’t care about the integrity of the game - they’re just happy to have to play 1 less game and get an extra week off before the QF.

hfc rd · 11-10-2019 10:34 PM

Didn’t see the Australia vs Georgia game earlier today. Just the extended highlights and reading the match report, it’s been labelled as an “unimpressive win”.

Tomorrow, instead of 3 matches, it’s just the one game on what looks set to be played on an awful pitch - Ireland vs Samoa.

hfc rd · 11-10-2019 10:37 PM

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-unio...saturday-night

Not holding my breath but fingers crossed! 🤞🏾

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 11-10-2019 11:12 PM

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Didn’t see the Australia vs Georgia game earlier today. Just the extended highlights and reading the match report, it’s been labelled as an “unimpressive win”.

Tomorrow, instead of 3 matches, it’s just the one game on what looks set to be played on an awful pitch - Ireland vs Samoa.

Did you see the video of the Ireland player lifting the turf and “burying” the ball under it?