Brexit - What Now.

**BroxburnHibee** · 11-09-2019 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://amp.ft.com/content/11983298-...mpression=true

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Can you copy and paste that? Its asking to sign in.

***lapsedhibee*** · 11-09-2019 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://amp.ft.com/content/11983298-...mpression=true

That's behind a paywall, I think, but presumably is about the government's inability to produce anyone willing to swear that Johnson's intentions were good, true etc.

***Ozyhibby*** · 11-09-2019 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

That's behind a paywall, I think, but presumably is about the government's inability to produce anyone willing to swear that Johnson's intentions were good, true etc.

Yes that’s pretty much it.
This keeps happening to me with the FT links. I open it, read the story, post the link and it doesn’t then work for others and I can’t get back into it either.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***Ozyhibby*** · 11-09-2019 12:41 PM

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-11/...nt-is-allowed/

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***lapsedhibee*** · 11-09-2019 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Don't know how likely it is, but Bozo desperately needs that ruling to go his way. Everything is going against him, which is pleasing.

Even his gullible base will give up on him if he's been misling the queen shirley?

***Moulin Yarns*** · 11-09-2019 01:39 PM

Signs of the beginning of a climbdown by Boris Johnson on the 21 Tory rebels? The chief whip Mark Spencer has written to some of the rebels outlining the appeals procedure, adding pontedly that future support for the government will be taken into account. Not going down well

**~~Fife-Hibee~~** · 11-09-2019 01:47 PM

Brexiteer being torn a new one on Sky News.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 11-09-2019 01:55 PM

Unionists have gone Full Froth claiming that the:
"ruling doesnt count because its Scottish courts",
"we wont be told what to do by Scotland",
"ignore these illegal courts."
And every statement further confirms the case for independence.
Magnificent.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 11-09-2019 01:57 PM

Tiny point: Scotland was guaranteed a separate, independent judiciary and legal system in 1707. One would hope UK officials, especially ones who claim to support the union, would understand and respect that.

**~~Fife-Hibee~~** · 11-09-2019 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Unionists have gone Full Froth claiming that the:
"ruling doesnt count because its Scottish courts",
"we wont be told what to do by Scotland",
"ignore these illegal courts."
And every statement further confirms the case for independence.
Magnificent.

Scotland is only part of the "union" when it suits them.

Scottish court system should sue the UK Government for defamation after claiming that their ruling was influenced by political bias.

**~~Cataplana~~** · 11-09-2019 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Tiny point: Scotland was guaranteed a separate, independent judiciary and legal system in 1707. One would hope UK officials, especially ones who claim to support the union, would understand and respect that.

If Johnny English had been able to understand these simplest of nuances the Union would never have been under threat.

In my life, it has been the repeated failure of England to recognise us as partners with rights, rather than as a northern offshoot of their country, that has irked the most.

***Ozyhibby*** · 11-09-2019 03:57 PM

Demographic changes in NI starting to show now.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 11-09-2019 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Demographic changes in NI starting to show now.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**JeMeSouviens** · 11-09-2019 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Demographic changes in NI starting to show now.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's partly the demographics and partly that the "unaligned" switch sides in the event of a hard or no deal Brexit from favouring the UK to favouring a UI.

***weecounty hibby*** · 11-09-2019 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Ideally now the English Tory press will run a "Jocko judges stole our Brexit" front page and Indy gets another step closer.

That was just about my first thought when I heard the decision. Get rid of those uppity Jocks Boris!!

***Callum_62*** · 11-09-2019 05:36 PM

When have the Govt to release the Yellowhammer docs?

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

***DaveF*** · 11-09-2019 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Callum_62

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

When have the Govt to release the Yellowhammer docs?

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

I thought it was 11pm tonight but that might have been one of the other things.

***lapsedhibee*** · 11-09-2019 06:14 PM

Kwasi Kwarteng embarrassing himself on Andrew Neil. Is he really the best stooge the government can put up?

**Pretty Boy** · 11-09-2019 06:18 PM

I love the increasingly contradictory positions some people are being forced to take. The same people desperate to get out of the EU so we can 'take back control of our laws' are now declaring the British legal system as 'unfit for purpose' because a Scots Court has made a decision they disagree with.

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 11-09-2019 07:21 PM

Government says it will defy Commons vote to release communications concerning prorogation. Another mess.

***Ryan91*** · 11-09-2019 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Government says it will defy Commons vote to release communications concerning prorogation. Another mess.

Surely if they had nothing to hide and if this was all above board like they claim it is, they'd be more than willing to release them.

**~~Cataplana~~** · 11-09-2019 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Government says it will defy Commons vote to release communications concerning prorogation. Another mess.

We're into Watergate territory now. How long till Boris cones on and tells us he's not a crook?

**JeMeSouviens** · 11-09-2019 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Kwasi Kwarteng embarrassing himself on Andrew Neil. Is he really the best stooge the government can put up?

His some-people-but-not-me comments about the judiciary were an absolute disgrace.

**Mr Grieves** · 11-09-2019 08:22 PM

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...935294977?s=21

So that's the yellowhammer document published, a summary-

The U.K will be more badly affected than the EU.
Delays for vehicles and people at borders.
Electricity price increases.
Medical supply shortages.
Potential increase of zoonotic diseases which can affect food supply chain, animal welfare and human health.
Food price increases and reduced choice of fresh food.
Potential for clean drinking water to be affected.
No more free healthcare in EU countries.
Gibraltar completely ****ed.
Protests, public disorder and community tensions that'll take up a significant amount of police time.
Job losses.
Fuel shortages and price increases.
Northern Ireland ****ed.
Increase in black market economy.
Unable to patrol fishing waters so EU vessels can fish illegally in our waters, causing further tensions.
Social care providers going bust due to lack of EU workers.
"Low income groups will be disproportionately affected..."

And our government are happy for this to happen to us, tories eh.

***lapsedhibee*** · 11-09-2019 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

His some-people-but-not-me comments about the judiciary were an absolute disgrace.

Was like watching a dumbed-down McCoist.

**JeMeSouviens** · 11-09-2019 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Grieves

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...935294977?s=21

So that's the yellowhammer document published, a summary-

The U.K will be more badly affected than the EU.
Delays for vehicles and people at borders.
Electricity price increases.
Medical supply shortages.
Potential increase of zoonotic diseases which can affect food supply chain, animal welfare and human health.
Food price increases and reduced choice of fresh food.
Potential for clean drinking water to be affected.
No more free healthcare in EU countries.
Gibraltar completely ****ed.
Protests, public disorder and community tensions that'll take up a significant amount of police time.
Job losses.
Fuel shortages and price increases.
Northern Ireland ****ed.
Increase in black market economy.
Unable to patrol fishing waters so EU vessels can fish illegally in our waters, causing further tensions.
Social care providers going bust due to lack of EU workers.
"Low income groups will be disproportionately affected..."

And our government are happy for this to happen to us

They are actively trying to make this happen to us. It’s just incredible.

***Ryan91*** · 11-09-2019 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Grieves

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...935294977?s=21

So that's the yellowhammer document published, a summary-

The U.K will be more badly affected than the EU.
Delays for vehicles and people at borders.
Electricity price increases.
Medical supply shortages.
Potential increase of zoonotic diseases which can affect food supply chain, animal welfare and human health.
Food price increases and reduced choice of fresh food.
Potential for clean drinking water to be affected.
No more free healthcare in EU countries.
Gibraltar completely ****ed.
Protests, public disorder and community tensions that'll take up a significant amount of police time.
Job losses.
Fuel shortages and price increases.
Northern Ireland ****ed.
Increase in black market economy.
Unable to patrol fishing waters so EU vessels can fish illegally in our waters, causing further tensions.
Social care providers going bust due to lack of EU workers.
"Low income groups will be disproportionately affected..."

And our government are happy for this to happen to us, tories eh.

Interesting tweet from Journalist at Sunday Times on differences between this version and the version they got their hands on a while back

https://twitter.com/RosamundUrwin/st...64228879372289