Brexit - What Now.

[Future17]

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In theory they can by deselection. The party deselects a sitting mp is banning by any other definition.

That doesn't stop them from standing; it just stops them from a standing as the party's nominated candidate.

[Bristolhibby]

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That doesn't stop them from standing; it just stops them from a standing as the party's nominated candidate.

This split the Tory vote.

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[Future17]

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This split the Tory vote.

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Yeah, which is one of the reasons it would be a massive gamble for the Tories to proceed in the way that has been rumoured. I think it would cost them seats - maybe not many, but it's not as if they can afford to lose any.

[Ozyhibby]

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Yeah, which is one of the reasons it would be a massive gamble for the Tories to proceed in the way that has been rumoured. I think it would cost them seats - maybe not many, but it's not as if they can afford to lose any.

The remain vote is even more split and people fear Corbyn as much as brexit. I think if Johnson gets a GE then he wins it. Brexit Party May only stand candidates against remain mp’s. And how many of the deselected mo’s will bother to stand as independents?
If we go to a GE the Johnson and no deal brexit will triumph.


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[lapsedhibee]

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If we go to a GE the Johnson and no deal brexit will triumph.

Yet Corbyn is all for a GE. He will lose, there will be a No Deal Brexit and his hope of destroying capitalism will be advanced in some small way - is that the long game he is playing so brilliantly?

[lapsedhibee]

Parliament getting stroppy - get rid of Parliament
Conservative MPs questioning strategy - get rid of them
Inconvenient laws being passed by legislature - ignore them
People protesting in the streets, waving placards, holding up traffic, etc - ?

Was Johnson thinking well ahead when he bought the water cannon for London?

[Just Jimmy]

A GE will be a disaster for those who don't want no deal or want another referendum. there's no way Corbyn wins an election. if fact he'll get trounced.

however it may be the best thing for the Labour party in that surely if they can canned he can't continue and they'll have to put someone with a backbone in charge. cooper would be the obvious shout.

it's a bloody mess all over the place.

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[Ozyhibby]

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A GE will be a disaster for those who don't want no deal or want another referendum. there's no way Corbyn wins an election. if fact he'll get trounced.

however it may be the best thing for the Labour party in that surely if they can canned he can't continue and they'll have to put someone with a backbone in charge. cooper would be the obvious shout.

it's a bloody mess all over the place.

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Agree. GE means a no deal brexit is a certainty.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

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keep em coming

[Ozyhibby]

Brexit Party about to announce a non aggression pact with the Tories.


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[Callum_62]

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Brexit Party about to announce a non aggression pact with the Tories.


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A Farage Bojo coalition

Marvellous

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[JeMeSouviens]

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Brexit Party about to announce a non aggression pact with the Tories.


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The pressure will be on Lab+Lib+Green+SNP to do likewise but I think they might well blow it. We shall see.

[Callum_62]

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keep em coming

That's 11 seats lost for the tories that they must pick up elsewhere

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[lapsedhibee]

Cabinet ministers to be told draft legal text on Northern Ireland plan has been drawn up and ready to be introduced

BUT

A source says draft legal text is just the existing protocol with the relevant articles on the backstop crossed out - not exactly a worked up plan

[BroxburnHibee]

Statement at 6. Final throw of the dice before announcing a GE?

[JeMeSouviens]

The Rebel bill has been published. It would make Johnson have to ask for a 3 month extension to end Jan 2020 if he hasn't got a deal by end Oct.

[Callum_62]

Bojo promising money for everyone

Magic money tree does exist again it appears

Its great that throughout this speech you can hear clearly STOP THE COUP chanting over and over


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[Callum_62]

Saying he doesn't want an election

Basically saying, pleading with MPs to vote with Govt tomorrow

Pointless really

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[lapsedhibee]

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Bojo promising money for everyone

Magic money tree does exist again it appears

Its great that throughout this speech you can hear clearly STOP THE COUP chanting over and over

Confirming that he'll ignore any inconvenient law passed this week.

[Mr Grieves]

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Bojo promising money for everyone

Magic money tree does exist again it appears

Its great that throughout this speech you can hear clearly STOP THE COUP chanting over and over


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[Bristolhibby]

Are we all buttoned up the back?

Did we forget the decade of austerity?

Where has all this money come from?

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[Jack Hackett]

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The twists and turns in this saga are now compulsive viewing/reading. Best Soap Ever!

[Mibbes Aye]

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The pressure will be on Lab+Lib+Green+SNP to do likewise but I think they might well blow it. We shall see.

I am actually more confident about a left coalition than I was a day or two ago but I am no expert and there will be much complexity and nuance to sort anything out.

It needs Corbyn to step aside and let someone like Cooper or the like, come forward. She isn’t anethema to the Momentum entryists, she shouldn’t be anathema to the unions, she shouldn’t be anethama to any Labour Party member unless they are a complete dick who is living in the past.

If Jeremy isn’t willing to do the right thing then god help us. There is a potential for coalition and it could be Yvette Cooper or Jo Swinson, and my god, it would be a million times better than Johnson or Corbyn.

[Ozyhibby]

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I am actually more confident about a left coalition than I was a day or two ago but I am no expert and there will be much complexity and nuance to sort anything out.

It needs Corbyn to step aside and let someone like Cooper or the like, come forward. She isn’t anethema to the Momentum entryists, she shouldn’t be anathema to the unions, she shouldn’t be anethama to any Labour Party member unless they are a complete dick who is living in the past.

If Jeremy isn’t willing to do the right thing then god help us. There is a potential for coalition and it could be Yvette Cooper or Jo Swinson, and my god, it would be a million times better than Johnson or Corbyn.

Cooper as Labour leader would deliver a 100 seat majority.


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[Glory Lurker]

Does the Labour constitution allow anyone other than party leader to be PM?

[Pretty Boy]

If there was an election tomorrow (or IN October) I'd struggle to know who to vote for. I voted Labour last time out in the general election but given their utterly hopeless non position in Brexit I don't think I could do so again. I think I'd go with my gut and give my vote back to the SNP.

[Ozyhibby]

In Scotland, the SNP is the most remain way to vote.


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[Moulin Yarns]

If Boris Johnson tried to get a vote for a general election through parliament after parliament vote for the 3 month extension, would it not make sense to vote it down. Thus forcing the extension. I know that he would try to refuse to implement the extension but the EU would then know what they are dealing with.

[Ozyhibby]

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If Boris Johnson tried to get a vote for a general election through parliament after parliament vote for the 3 month extension, would it not make sense to vote it down. Thus forcing the extension. I know that he would try to refuse to implement the extension but the EU would then know what they are dealing with.

Absolutely it would make sense. Labour would be mad to take the bait and allow Johnson to dictate the timing of an election at a time they are behind in the polls. Corbyn doesn’t strike me as being that smart though.