Embarrassing "support" today

[Pretty Boy]

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I keep reading about all the booing yesterday. Can anyone confirm whether anyone took it a step too far and hissed as well?

I think someone shouted 'he's behind you'. Heckingbottom said 'oh no he isn't'. The ****.

[One Day In Time]

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A win would have just papered over the cracks yesterday mate...we were abysmal for 3 quarters of that match...imo we didn't even deserve a point.

We certainly did not deserve to win the match. I've been in the give Hecky more time camp till now but I'm starting to run out of support for him as the weeks go by...that's 3 weeks running where weve been pretty abject

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Yeah heat of the moment from me and apologies to anyone I was snippy with. It would have papered over the cracks but we’d be sitting here tonight content with the three points. We’ll play much better and lose I’d wager.

Three weeks is nothing though. I guess I just want Easter Road to be a fortress, a bear pit where the opposition don’t want to be.

I don’t want to see our own squad being scared by the reception and atmosphere from their own

[cabbageandribs1875]

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You have my full backing for this. £10 for three waters and a pie is scandalous. Cheek not to give me plastic water bottle, in case of recklessness. I could’ve seriously hurt someone with the brick hard pie!

i am not kidding when i state a hammer drill would have had no effect whatsoever on the sausage roll i refused to leave the counter with at the st.mirren game, eventually getting my hard earned cash back, their comes a time when i/others must simply say...enough is enough, i've finally made my stand with the food...unfortunately i'm one more home game away from making a stand against the mediocrity on the pitch

[1875-Hibernia]

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i am not kidding when i state a hammer drill would have had no effect whatsoever on the sausage roll i refused to leave the counter with at the st.mirren game, eventually getting my hard earned cash back, their comes a time when i/others must simply say...enough is enough, i've finally made my stand with the food...unfortunately i'm one more home game away from making a stand against the mediocrity on the pitch

Tbf it’s the first time in a long time that I have purchased one. It will be the last. A rebellion against the food kiosk is as needed as a performance on the pitch!

[basehibby]

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One of the most toxic atmospheres i can remember at Easter Road. Even worse than the dark days of Lennon. The players confidence looks shot with all the booing. Really really sad. Im sure a bit of real support would have got us over the line today. I'm off this for a while before the inevitable abuse us directed my way.

I'm not a boo-er - but I understand and accept that fans will let off steam - at HT/FT in particular - if the performance on the park is not deemed acceptable. And in the last few games we have certainly as a support had plenty to bump our gums about - following up a horrendous gubbing at Ibrox by conceding two 90th minute equalisers at home to two teams we should be beating comfortably if we have any European ambitions this season and so I wasn't surprised by the booing at 90 mins at both the last 2 home games even if I wasn't joining in. I don't hold with singling out players for abuse though and reckon we should be getting behind the team as much as we can in the 90 mins.
And so I partly take your point about the booing at StJ's first equaliser on Sat - it was a great goal created by a fantastic pass from our former (also unjustly booed) captain Liam Craig afterall. But you could also say that fans were booing the concession of an equaliser so very soon after an unforced tactical double sub by our manager from a winning position. We were under some pressure before the sub but if it was meant to take the pressure off and tilt the balance in our favour it clearly didn't work as St J dominated the second half and fully deserved their point.
So - even if you're not a boo-er by nature you have to concede there has been some justification for Hibees fans voicing their disquiet at what have been unconvincing performances under Hecky so far this season. I personally don't like to hear it but our fans are not robots and are only doing it cos they care.

[Billychaotic182]

I booed at full time as I was frustrated at once again hibs losing a goal in the dying minutes. I was taken aback by the booing of the sub. But I dont blame any who did boo, playing our best and most influential player out wide is madness, and not the first time he has done this as he played Flo out wide last season too.

I've lost faith in Heckingbottom, the football is awful to watch, we have only 1 win against top 6 opposition, he talked about high pressing attacking football with the players being fitter than they have ever been before but all we do is hoof it up the park. How anyone can blame the fans for getting annoyed is beyond me.

Also just like to add that I sit in the west lower and there was no booing of Middleton, he got booed by the st Johnston fans and the hibs fans clapped him, and as for people calling out some fans in the west lower, the crowd were fine till st Johnston equalised and then some rightfully let out their frustration at Heckingbottom, as it was clear to see that a goal was coming.

[Captain Trips]

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I'm not a boo-er - but I understand and accept that fans will let off steam - at HT/FT in particular - if the performance on the park is not deemed acceptable. And in the last few games we have certainly as a support had plenty to bump our gums about - following up a horrendous gubbing at Ibrox by conceding two 90th minute equalisers at home to two teams we should be beating comfortably if we have any European ambitions this season and so I wasn't surprised by the booing at 90 mins at both the last 2 home games even if I wasn't joining in. I don't hold with singling out players for abuse though and reckon we should be getting behind the team as much as we can in the 90 mins.
And so I partly take your point about the booing at StJ's first equaliser on Sat - it was a great goal created by a fantastic pass from our former (also unjustly booed) captain Liam Craig afterall. But you could also say that fans were booing the concession of an equaliser so very soon after an unforced tactical double sub by our manager from a winning position. We were under some pressure before the sub but if it was meant to take the pressure off and tilt the balance in our favour it clearly didn't work as St J dominated the second half and fully deserved their point.
So - even if you're not a boo-er by nature you have to concede there has been some justification for Hibees fans voicing their disquiet at what have been unconvincing performances under Hecky so far this season. I personally don't like to hear it but our fans are not robots and are only doing it cos they care.

I think there is a very big difference between singling out a specific player for a bit of booing and the more general booing at HT. I can understand that an individual will take it differently but surely if whole team is booed off they will feel they want to turn that around during HT? So they all just go in and cry or want to phone their mum or does the manager say listen to that noise lets sort it. I think booing at HT can have a positive effect if the players have anything about them. I think its needed sometimes just a reminder that to some (and quite a lot on Saturday) what they are watching is not good enough.

[Captain Trips]

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Psychological research would disagree about it not affecting someone’s performance but what do they know?

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Again, it's nothing to do with 'having something about them' or not. EVERYONE performs worse under critical negative environments. Its a fact.

I don’t think the supporters’ anxiety seeped through to the players," Jackson insisted.

"We’ve all played a lot of games now, we’re all grown men, thick-skinned. We have to do it ourselves and play our game, we need to play how we want to play in attack and in defence. It’s down to us.
"The fans pay their money don’t they? It’s their choice and we have just got to keep working.

So these facts and also the research any links to it? As I stated the booing had FA to do with result and somebody playing was not affected by it. We drew because we played pish end of.

[Heisenberg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49515412

See the manager still reckons the crowd reaction on Saturday “transferred to the players” I.e he blames the crowd for the players not performing. Lot of rubbish.

[WeeRussell]

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See the manager still reckons the crowd reaction on Saturday “transferred to the players” I.e he blames the crowd for the players not performing. Lot of rubbish.

I never joined in with any booing, and don't believe I ever have when aimed at anything Hibs. But on Saturday I understood the frustrations when the boos came for the changes our manager made (clearly aimed at his decision to hook Scott Allan). Changes to tactics which saw us lose an equaliser within a few minutes (albeit we replied even quicker to go in front again) and generally fall apart until we all knew what was coming in stoppage time.

If Hecky is now blaming the fans for what happened on Saturday then it's very disappointing for me.

[Marvellous]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49515412

See the manager still reckons the crowd reaction on Saturday “transferred to the players” I.e he blames the crowd for the players not performing. Lot of rubbish.

He said there was anxiety in the performance before the boos, and it seemed like the boos transferred to the players on top of that.
He didn't blame anyone for anything. If you listen to virtually anyone who's been involved in football they'll agree with him that an audibly unhappy home crowd has a negative affect on the home team.

[RossScott1991]

He deployed Allan wide right but felt he stayed too wide and didn’t come infield enough....

Explains our tippy tappy slow possession based football. Zero pace, no width. Players are instructed to come infield. Hearts football make the pitch as narrow as possible.

Yikes.

[Marvellous]

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He deployed Allan wide right but felt he stayed too wide and didn’t come infield enough....

Explains our tippy tappy slow possession based football. Zero pace, no width. Players are instructed to come infield. Hearts football make the pitch as narrow as possible.

Yikes.

How does that explain the pace of our play exactly? Wide players are expected to come inside when the ball is on the opposite side.

[SMAXXA]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49515412

See the manager still reckons the crowd reaction on Saturday “transferred to the players” I.e he blames the crowd for the players not performing. Lot of rubbish.

He never once blamed the crowd for the players not performing. Go listen to his interview in Hibs tv youtube I think what he’s said is fair no issues with it.

[RossScott1991]

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How does that explain the pace of our play exactly? Wide players are expected to come inside when the ball is on the opposite side.

That’s fine except Allan isn’t a wide player and it is an unfamiliar role for him.

I think the fact our main problem in the team is the midfield has no balance to it explains itself to be honest.

Not enough runners or pace in the side.

[we are hibs]

It hardly transfered onto the players. They had been ***** the 15 minutes before and after half time then the sub was made. Why is he ignoring that?

[Marvellous]

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It hardly transfered onto the players. They had been ***** the 15 minutes before and after half time then the sub was made. Why is he ignoring that?

Did you watch the interview?

[B.H.F.C]

It would be nice if he could enlighten all us anxious folk about his decision to play him on the right wing.

[CloudSquall]

Probably not a clever move to bring it up again, he should be looking to draw a line under it.

[we are hibs]

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Did you watch the interview?

Do i need to? I read the quotes on the bbc and he says it transfered onto the players. It didnt. They were poor before the sub and after it.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Do i need to? I read the quotes on the bbc and he says it transfered onto the players. It didnt. They were poor before the sub and after it.

I'd probably say the guy who works with them every day has a better idea if it transfered to them or not.

[Robbo6-2]

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Probably not a clever move to bring it up again, he should be looking to draw a line under it.

He didnt bring it up he was asked the question

[PaulSmith]

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It would be nice if he could enlighten all us anxious folk about his decision to play him on the right wing.

He did on the YouTube interview today and explains the decision fairly well. I’ve got to respect him for that but still don’t agree with it.

[Lee Marvin]

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Do i need to? I read the quotes on the bbc and he says it transfered onto the players. It didnt. They were poor before the sub and after it.

Turns out you do have to as you are slavering nonesense

[we are hibs]

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Turns out you do have to as you are slavering nonesense

Well i mean im not. Are you going to expand or do the usual on here and make a sly dig and not back it up?


He said it looked like it tranfered onto the players. Yes or no?

Were we ***** for a good period before the allan sub and subsequent booing? Yes or no?

So did the booing affect the players performance? Yes or no?

[B.H.F.C]

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He did on the YouTube interview today and explains the decision fairly well. I’ve got to respect him for that but still don’t agree with it.

Fair enough, will give it a listen.

[we are hibs]

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I'd probably say the guy who works with them every day has a better idea if it transfered to them or not.

Was at and watched the game 👍 we were pish before the booing so how exactly did it affect the players? They hardly got any worse.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Was at and watched the game 👍 we were pish before the booing so how exactly did it affect the players? They hardly got any worse.

We were definitely worse in the last 20 minutes than any other period. Do you think it helped them?

[Peevemor]

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We were definitely worse in the last 20 minutes than any other period. Do you think it helped them?

Spot on. It was horrible to watch.

[Lee Marvin]

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Well i mean im not. Are you going to expand or do the usual on here and make a sly dig and not back it up?


He said it looked like it tranfered onto the players. Yes or no?

Were we ***** for a good period before the allan sub and subsequent booing? Yes or no?

So did the booing affect the players performance? Yes or no?

You will find the correct answer to all of your questions in the interview. Or you could just make stuff up