Brexit - What Now.

[G B Young]

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The idea that this is 'business as usual' is ludicrous. It's an affront to parliamentary democracy.

It's time for all the opposition leaders to cease posturing and find a compromise to provide a viable alternative to no deal.

They can't. If such a cross-party compromise existed it would have been found by now but if anything tangible has been established over the last three and bit years it's that parliament is incapable of coming up with anything more viable than no deal. They're hopeless, the lot of them. Re-opening the 'debate' would achieve nothing.

[southsider]

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Still around 1.1 against EUR which is way better than last week

Ofocourse that's still sh*t

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I only got 95 cents for every pound I transferred into my Spanish Bank Account today.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Fair enough, silence it is. If that's what you want?

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[Callum_62]

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I only got 95 cents for every pound I transferred into my Spanish Bank Account today.

1.1 being the market rate

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[Moulin Yarns]

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They can't. If such a cross-party compromise existed it would have been found by now but if anything tangible has been established over the last three and bit years it's that parliament is incapable of coming up with anything more viable than no deal. They're hopeless, the lot of them. Re-opening the 'debate' would achieve nothing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49496517

[James310]

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Well why did you ask for my opinion early, make your mind up. Flip flopping all over the place.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Well why did you ask for my opinion early, make your mind up. Flip flopping all over the place.

I didn't. Another fact proved to be wrong.

Maybe this should have been on the tories are liars thread instead? 🤔😉

[James310]

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I didn't. Another fact proved to be wrong.

Maybe this should have been on the tories are liars thread instead? 🤔😉

For someone who wants me silenced you show an unhealthy, almost stalkerish interest.

A bit scary. If it's not silly little jokes its something else. Strange behaviour.

[Callum_62]

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For someone who wants me silenced you show an unhealthy, almost stalkerish interest.

A bit scary. If it's not silly little jokes its something else. Strange behaviour.

Look - over there!

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[Moulin Yarns]

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For someone who wants me silenced you show an unhealthy, almost stalkerish interest.

A bit scary. If it's not silly little jokes its something else. Strange behaviour.

Still, it's a tory lie.

[James310]

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Look - over there!

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Well I am either silenced, which 2 have said they want, or not. On the one hand I have someone pressing me for my opinions on today and then on the other I have a couple of others saying they wished I never said another word. Awfully confusing, flip flopping all over the place.

[James310]

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Still, it's a tory lie.

What is?

I know a few others accused you of not being in the real world on another thread so maybe have a break and come back when you enter the real world.

[The Modfather]

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Well I am either silenced, which 2 have said they want, or not. On the one hand I have someone pressing me for my opinions on today and then on the other I have a couple of others saying they wished I never said another word. Awfully confusing, flip flopping all over the place.

You could maybe respond to those that engage with you and ignore the ones that don’t want to 🤔

[Moulin Yarns]

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Well I am either silenced, which 2 have said they want, or not. On the one hand I have someone pressing me for my opinions on today and then on the other I have a couple of others saying they wished I never said another word. Awfully confusing, flip flopping all over the place.

Flip flopping: making a completely opposite opinion.



https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/flip-flopper


I think you will find that those who are asking you for answers are not the ones that are wanting silence. But don't let that get in the way of your diametrically opposite views.

[Moulin Yarns]

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What is?

I know a few others accused you of not being in the real world on another thread so maybe have a break and come back when you enter the real world.

You accused me of flip flopping. LIE

You said I had asked you a question then wished you were silent. LIE

Remind me, how many snp MPs abstained on the Clarke motion, and how many tories abstained?

[James310]

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You accused me of flip flopping. LIE

You said I had asked you a question then wished you were silent. LIE

Remind me, how many snp MPs abstained on the Clarke motion, and how many tories abstained?

You don't know if you are coming or going today.

[Moulin Yarns]

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You could maybe respond to those that engage with you and ignore the ones that don’t want to 🤔

👍Too sensible

[Moulin Yarns]

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You don't know if you are coming or going today.

You really need to stop. Nobody knows what you are on about.

I know exactly what I mean, that you have trouble with the simple things in life is not my problem.

[G B Young]

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Even if that were to succeed, it wouldn't move the 'debate' on any further. It would likely just subject us to more stalemate.

All manner of cross-party initiatives have been put forward and failed. Parliament has proved time and again that it is unable to get a consensus on how to deliver Brexit, so from that perspective the government's move today will play out well with a lot of the electorate who have been crying out for some sort of decisive movement - even the remain voters interviewed on the lunchtime news (granted, the BBC must have had to gather the views of punters in a rush this morning) accepted that something has to give.

The whole shambles should have been a cross-party issue right from the start, but I'm not sure we wouldn't have arrived at the same sorry situation even if it had been. There are simply too many self-serving and conflicting agendas at play and when all's finally said and done it we'll probably all reflect that a no deal exit was the most likely conclusion all along.

[Moulin Yarns]

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For someone who wants me silenced you show an unhealthy, almost stalkerish interest.

A bit scary. If it's not silly little jokes its something else. Strange behaviour.

Pot and kettle come to mind.

[JeMeSouviens]

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You really need to stop. Nobody knows what you are on about.

I know exactly what I mean, that you have trouble with the simple things in life is not my problem.

George Bernard Shaw - "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Got sucked into the **** yesterday but time to get back on the GBS track.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Even if that were to succeed, it wouldn't move the 'debate' on any further. It would likely just subject us to more stalemate.

All manner of cross-party initiatives have been put forward and failed. Parliament has proved time and again that it is unable to get a consensus on how to deliver Brexit, so from that perspective the government's move today will play out well with a lot of the electorate who have been crying out for some sort of decisive movement - even the remain voters interviewed on the lunchtime news (granted, the BBC must have had to gather the views of punters in a rush this morning) accepted that something has to give.

The whole shambles should have been a cross-party issue right from the start, but I'm not sure we wouldn't have arrived at the same sorry situation even if it had been. There are simply too many self-serving and conflicting agendas at play and when all's finally said and done it we'll probably all reflect that a no deal exit was the most likely conclusion all along.

Earlier I posted a tweet that suggests that having the parliamentary break will allow Theresa May's withdrawal agreement to be brought back to parliament for another vote, so close to the exit date, could actually gain enough votes.

At this moment in time I would be glad if that happened, even though I have been a remainer from day 1.

[Moulin Yarns]

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George Bernard Shaw - "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Got sucked into the **** yesterday but time to get back on the GBS track.

😁👍

Emotional vampires do that.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Even if that were to succeed, it wouldn't move the 'debate' on any further. It would likely just subject us to more stalemate.

All manner of cross-party initiatives have been put forward and failed. Parliament has proved time and again that it is unable to get a consensus on how to deliver Brexit, so from that perspective the government's move today will play out well with a lot of the electorate who have been crying out for some sort of decisive movement - even the remain voters interviewed on the lunchtime news (granted, the BBC must have had to gather the views of punters in a rush this morning) accepted that something has to give.

The whole shambles should have been a cross-party issue right from the start, but I'm not sure we wouldn't have arrived at the same sorry situation even if it had been. There are simply too many self-serving and conflicting agendas at play and when all's finally said and done it we'll probably all reflect that a no deal exit was the most likely conclusion all along.

There's still enough time for no deal to be stopped. Ultimately I still think it's more likely than not that Brexit won't happen at all.

[James310]

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George Bernard Shaw - "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Got sucked into the **** yesterday but time to get back on the GBS track.

That's a bit much, calling him a pig.

Oink oink.

[James310]

If you look back at the last few hours I have had people clambering for my opinion and those wanting me silenced.

Happy to move on, but if people still keep wanting to have a go I am happy to have a go back at them.

[G B Young]

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Earlier I posted a tweet that suggests that having the parliamentary break will allow Theresa May's withdrawal agreement to be brought back to parliament for another vote, so close to the exit date, could actually gain enough votes.

At this moment in time I would be glad if that happened, even though I have been a remainer from day 1.

I didn't spot that. Is that genuinely feasible? I guess the deal remains on the table, even though it must have gathered a fair bit of dust by now.

I'd be glad of that too, but even at the 11th hour do you think our MPs would vote for it in sufficient numbers?

[Moulin Yarns]

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If you look back at the last few hours I have had people clambering for my opinion and those wanting me silenced.

Happy to move on, but if people still keep wanting to have a go I am happy to have a go back at them.

Or you could just answer the questions instead of the petty name calling and vindictive points.

Adult conversation is healthy.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Bercow weighs in - 'this move represents a constitutional outrage. However it is dressed up it is blindingly obvious that the purpose of prorogation now would be to stop Parliament debating Brexit and performing its duty'

no matter what the topic is anything that p@sses off bercow is absolutely fine with me, he ain't smirking now

[GlesgaeHibby]

Davidson set to quit. Result.