Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Stuart93]

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Lets be brutally honest, the standard in the videos is horrific. Its low end Scottish championship or Scottish League 1 level.

Gonna be a huge step up for the lad and seems a big fee to be paying for him.

But judgement will be reserved until we see them play in a hibs top no?

People were calling for lower league gem seasons for ages. We’re potentially now doing that and people are still moaning. Strange

[sambajustice]

My only concern is we're not picking up a great deal of Scottish players. Like the previous poster more or less said, PH's bread and butter is English Lower leagues so no point in him not using those contacts. Hopefully he's using his knowledge to set up similar scouting network up here to pick up some of those Andy Robertson types...

[NC1875]

Other teams pick players like Moult from the lower leagues in England and people moan we don’t do it.

We’re doing it now and people are still moaning.

[IncredibleHibee]

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Put this into context

I have a question.... where should we get our signings from?


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That’s a fair point and as a few others have said Hecky does have a good track record of identifying and improving players. Just my nagging concerns of not signing guys proven at a higher level. but I suppose the otherside of the coin is that every player has to start somewhere.

[we are hibs]

This is the market we are in now. along with the rest of the Scottish sides outside of celtic and rangers. I would like to know what proven goalscorer is available within our budget who is playing at a higher Level than League 2 or similar level to the Scottish Premiership?

[Heisenberg]

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That’s a fair point and as a few others have said Hecky does have a good track record of identifying and improving players. Just my nagging concerns of not signing guys proven at a higher level. but I suppose the otherside of the coin is that every player has to start somewhere.

We signed quite a few “proven” higher level players last season that turned out to be varying from average to atrocious. We had a boy with Champions League experience who couldn’t get in ahead of Lewy for example 😂

[500miles]

Worth pointing out that we picked up our captain from League 2, and big Marv spent a fair chunk of his career there.

[J-C]

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My only concern is we're not picking up a great deal of Scottish players. Like the previous poster more or less said, PH's bread and butter is English Lower leagues so no point in him not using those contacts. Hopefully he's using his knowledge to set up similar scouting network up here to pick up some of those Andy Robertson types...

Is there any Scottish players out there you'd want?, I think picking up British players is as good, similar game all over and will gel fairly quickly with the squad.

Also worth pointing out players like Sproule came from lower league, plus we've already signed 2 players from English championship football, which is a very decent level.

[IncredibleHibee]

Ones thing for sure. It’s great getting our signings in early. I’m very excited for the season ahead

[Steven79]

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https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leag...wettbewerb/GB4

Louis Moult came from a non-league team was was superb for Motherwell - the flipside is you get players who arrive with big reputations who don't deliver. It's not an exact science.

I'm satisfied that we will have done our due diligence here - given what PH has said about the physicality of our league, and how it's refereed differently, I highly doubt that he would have sanctioned the transfers if he had any concerns about them performing at this level.

There are numerous variables that can affect how well a player performs, some of them completely beyond your control. All you can do is hope for the best, and - as you say - offer our full support.

Going by stats alone Christian Doidge is twice the player that Moult was when he signed for Motherwell.

[Since452]

The good thing about it is we have guys like Gray and McGregor who will make it clear in no uncertain terms what is expected of a player wearing a Hibs shirt.

[Paisley Hibby]

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Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

Unlike many other managers, Heckingbottom is now well placed to fully appreciate the comparative standards between England AND Scotland across these levels. And he's not going to risk building on his developing managerial career by making a basic mistake of over- or underrating anyone. He knows what he's doing.

[The_Horde]

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Worth pointing out that we picked up our captain from League 2, and big Marv spent a fair chunk of his career there.

I see where you're going with this. And if we can get someone in up top who's as good for us as Dave is then brilliant.

Say what you want about Marv, he was a squad filler most of the time here (a bloody effective one tbf) and a fan favourite but I think people are maybe wanting us to pick up gems like SJM, Mcgeouch and Allan.. stand out star players to nurture for selling.

That's where I am anyway, I want us to be looking for players everywhere but we're really needing star quality to push us above mid table class.

[Robbo6-2]

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But judgement will be reserved until we see them play in a hibs top no?

People were calling for lower league gem seasons for ages. We’re potentially now doing that and people are still moaning. Strange

Yes we will reserve judgement.

Nobody is moaning, i think as fans we are allowed to question things.

It was the same as when we signed Birgimina, folk jumping down your throat when you question a singing. Look how that turned out...

I havent seen him play live and fingers crossed hes the dogs and scores 20 goals next season. But looking at the footage there is a huge jump to what we are playing at, that's not saying he wont be able too. We are allowed to give an opinion.

[JimBHibees]

Looks like two exciting signings. Hope they do well. Good to get them in early.

[Gmack7]

All these early signings is going to totally ruin deadline day, Petrie!!!!

[neil7908]

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Worth pointing out that we picked up our captain from League 2, and big Marv spent a fair chunk of his career there.

I have no issues picking players up from that level. It's the fee that makes me nervous. It's big money for us these days. I've never seen the guy play and he'll get my support but a bit of pressure given on him to come in and perform.

[Since452]

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All these early signings is going to totally ruin deadline day, Petrie!!!!

If we don't have a deadline day signing this season I'll be furious. Didn't sign up for this!

[Unseen work]

Iv tried to stop being negative about players before they play.

Swanson
Nelom
Mavrias
Deivydas Matulevičius
Gauld
Darnell Johnson

Are only a few who I expected to come in and instantly improve us as they either had a lot of potential or played at a very high level.

[500miles]

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I have no issues picking players up from that level. It's the fee that makes me nervous. It's big money for us these days. I've never seen the guy play and he'll get my support but a bit of pressure given on him to come in and perform.

True, but we'd have to pay an even more for the likes of Shankland, who has never been successful at a higher level.

[easty]

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Iv tried to stop being negative about players before they play.

Swanson
Nelom
Mavrias
Deivydas Matulevičius
Gauld
Darnell Simpson

Are only a few who I expected to come in and instantly improve us as they either had a lot of potential or played at a very high level.

Who the **** is Darnell Simpson?

[My_Wife_Camille]

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Other teams pick players like Moult from the lower leagues in England and people moan we don’t do it.

We’re doing it now and people are still moaning.

Is it the same people moaning about both things or is it maybe just that thousands of different people have thousands of different opinions on the thousands of different ways a football club does things?

[Torto7]

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This is the market we are in now. along with the rest of the Scottish sides outside of celtic and rangers. I would like to know what proven goalscorer is available within our budget who is playing at a higher Level than League 2 or similar level to the Scottish Premiership?

We've signed players from a higher level in the last few windows so I'm not sure your point holds true. This is more PH using his knowledge which is fair enough as that's what he knows and he's the man in charge.

[04Sauzee]

If these guys come in we will have 4 bodies in with everyone of them on a 2 or 3 year deal. We still haven't got any loan players on and the loan market was a market Heckingbottom was looking to exploit. Think there will be a few tasty ones still to come

[Unseen work]

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Who the **** is Darnell Simpson?

Shows my point.....I don’t even know his name!!’n Darnell Johnson is who I meant

[HFC93]

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Iv tried to stop being negative about players before they play.

Swanson
Nelom
Mavrias
Deivydas Matulevičius
Gauld
Darnell Johnson

Are only a few who I expected to come in and instantly improve us as they either had a lot of potential or played at a very high level.

You didn’t have big expectations for big Dave did you?

[easty]

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Shows my point.....I don’t even know his name!!’n Darnell Johnson is who I meant

I couldn't even work out who you meant, I'd forgot all about him!

[Torto7]

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If these guys come in we will have 4 bodies in with everyone of them on a 2 or 3 year deal. We still haven't got any loan players on and the loan market was a market Heckingbottom was looking to exploit. Think there will be a few tasty ones still to come

I think this is a certainty he's been quoted as saying as much. As Well as the lower leagues he has ample knowledge of the u23 system in England. These types of players are usually available later in the window.

[Northern Hibby]

Love a lower league gem, but careful with too
many.

[Unseen work]

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You didn’t have big expectations for big Dave did you?

To a certain extent yes, he was coming in as a big striker with 30 odd appearances for Lithuania. I thought he would prove handy and be similar to Holt.

I expected more than 1 goal in a cup from him.

My point is, people seem to get excited by foreign players with good background but we don’t know a lot about, League 1/2 players shouldn’t scare us because of their background.