US claiming Iran has torpedoed 2 oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman.

[Fife-Hibee]

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Will the New York Times suffice?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...drone-map.html

The original image is credited to the USDoD.

But I agree with you. It IS odd that it's not being more widely covered.

If the original image is credited to the USDoD and MSM websites are not allowed to publish it. Then how was it leaked out onto the dodgy foreign websites? How were they able to obtain the original image?

[Fife-Hibee]

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Shudder - I had to go onto FoxNews to acquire this:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/pentag...very-different

Why are there no online articles from US or UK sources linking to this image that is claimed to be released by the USDoD? So far all i've found are illustrations of where the US claims the drone was taken down, but nothing linking to this image.

Surely it's huge news? Yet you have to struggle to dig out anything about it online.

[Sylar]

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If the original image is credited to the USDoD and MSM websites are not allowed to publish it. Then how was it leaked out onto the dodgy foreign websites? How were they able to obtain the original image?

So far, after deciding to fact-check your claim that it's not on the MSM sites, I've found it on the NY Times, Fox, NBC, The Washington Post AND the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48714414).

Care to retract?

[RyeSloan]

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I did a reverse image search online to see exactly where this picture was sourced from. Seems to only appear on a handful of dodgy foreign sites. There's been absolutely no mention of it in US or UK media.

Urmm it was released by US Central Command on their verified twitter feed...which could of course be classed as a dodgy foreign site I grant you but I’m pretty sure that’s not what you were meaning.

And it’s linked in the main story on the BBC home page.

[Hibbyradge]

The conspiracy is back on!

[Hibbyradge]

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So far, after deciding to fact-check your claim that it's not on the MSM sites, I've found it on the NY Times, Fox, NBC, The Washington Post AND the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48714414).

Care to retract?

It doesn't count until it appears on RTE.

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0...32-iran-trump/

[GreenLake]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...bal-hawk-drone

[RyeSloan]

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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...bal-hawk-drone

Very interesting and informative link, thanks

[Bristolhibby]

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How do we decode this? Does this mean that the US downed their own drone so they could say that they forgive Iran for making a mistake?

Or did the US down it mistakenly?

I'm rubbish at conspiracies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48711229

Or did the US actually (on purpose) stray into Iranian airspace to test their air defence protocols. Data gathering on your enemy’s (or potential enemy’s) capability.

We do it all the time. Probing Russian waters with Hunter Killers, having “exercises” on the Lithuanian border with Russia.

J

[Bristolhibby]

Holy Shoot!!!

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/21/187005...-drone-twitter

[SChibs]

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How do we decode this? Does this mean that the US downed their own drone so they could say that they forgive Iran for making a mistake?

Or did the US down it mistakenly?

I'm rubbish at conspiracies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48711229

You started being rubbish when you went to the BBC for your news.

[SChibs]

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It doesn't count until it appears on RTE.

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0...32-iran-trump/

150 deaths is nothing to these people if it means they get the war they crave.

[RyeSloan]

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150 deaths is nothing to these people if it means they get the war they crave.

But quite clearly the US could have escalated the issue yesterday into the war that they crave...yet here we are...

Of course there is plenty sabre rattling going on and it’s not taken much for either side to show their true colours but I’m pretty sure neither party really , genuinely wants a full out confrontation.

I appreciate that doesn’t suit the narrative of those that hold a black n white view of the Middle East politick but then, as dear old Fife has shown on this very thread, nothing will convince those with polarised views anyway, no matter what.

[Hibbyradge]

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You started being rubbish when you went to the BBC for your news.

The BBC comes to me.

[Hibbyradge]

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150 deaths is nothing to these people if it means they get the war they crave.

I went to RTE for the news though. I'm cool, huh?