Tories are lying *******s (warning may contain traces of Tory)

[Moulin Yarns]

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I'm not opening the link, but Im putting my money on, failing Grayling.

Give the boy a coconut

[Fife-Hibee]

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"An honest bribe"? You're either trolling, or you don't know the definition of the word "bribe".

Are you suggesting that all bribes are based on lies? Perhaps it's you that needs to check up on the definition.

[JeMeSouviens]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48288433

The most inept Government Minister ever??

It is quite incredible just how many total **** ups he has overseen and yet survived. The perfect minister for the Theresa May era.

https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/201...on-with-the-ma

[Moulin Yarns]

Hold the bus, I've found an honest Tory


https://twitter.com/SurreyAmps/statu...33642043596800

[Moulin Yarns]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsScot/sta...125559297?s=19

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Privileged powerful and entitled white man in business suit puts a female worker firmly in her place. Winds of change never stop blowing.

[Future17]

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Are you suggesting that all bribes are based on lies? Perhaps it's you that needs to check up on the definition.

I can't recall anyone mentioning "lies"; you don't have to tell lies in order to be dishonest, however, offering a bribe (or accepting one for that matter) is dishonest.

If you genuinely believe I don't know the definition of "bribe", perhaps you could provide one which doesn't involve dishonesty.

[Fife-Hibee]

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I can't recall anyone mentioning "lies"; you don't have to tell lies in order to be dishonest, however, offering a bribe (or accepting one for that matter) is dishonest.

If you genuinely believe I don't know the definition of "bribe", perhaps you could provide one which doesn't involve dishonesty.

Now you're saying dishonesty and lying are not the same thing?

I give up. You win. Well played.

[JeMeSouviens]

Here's an interesting bit of early Michael Gove, notable for 2 things:

- he used to have a bit of a Scots accent (who knew?)
- presumably we're meant to think it's satire but he looks like he believes every word!

https://twitter.com/chrismorrisbits/...18660593537029

[Future17]

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Now you're saying dishonesty and lying are not the same thing?

I give up. You win. Well played.

They clearly are not the same thing; whilst lying is dishonest, dishonesty does not require a person to lie. For example, stealing is dishonest, but you are not require to lie in order to steal.

I'm all for opinions, but this isn't the only occasion on this board you've stated something which can be shown to be untrue based on the available evidence. You're either intentionally misleading people or you're just reckless. Either way, it's behaviour that needs called out.

[Fife-Hibee]

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They clearly are not the same thing; whilst lying is dishonest, dishonesty does not require a person to lie. For example, stealing is dishonest, but you are not require to lie in order to steal.

I'm all for opinions, but this isn't the only occasion on this board you've stated something which can be shown to be untrue based on the available evidence. You're either intentionally misleading people or you're just reckless. Either way, it's behaviour that needs called out.

Dis (the opposite)
Honest (truthful)
Dishonest (not truthful)

This is getting extremely infantile now. Clearly you're no happy about something that has occured lately, so i'll leave you to it.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://twitter.com/Darth_Brexit_/st...62277025853441

[Mibbes Aye]

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https://twitter.com/Darth_Brexit_/st...62277025853441

Replies are the best bit.

[1875godsgift]

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I can't recall anyone mentioning "lies"; you don't have to tell lies in order to be dishonest, however, offering a bribe (or accepting one for that matter) is dishonest.

If you genuinely believe I don't know the definition of "bribe", perhaps you could provide one which doesn't involve dishonesty.

If we need to get to nursery quickly in the morning, I offer my 3 year old a packet of crisps if she'll get into the buggy.

Bribery, I know, but it's not dishonest, I always give her the crisps....

[Moulin Yarns]

Murdo fraser tells it like it is.


https://twitter.com/murdo_fraser/sta...420128770?s=19

[Fife-Hibee]

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Murdo fraser tells it like it is.


https://twitter.com/murdo_fraser/sta...420128770?s=19

He's finally admitted to himself that he's an erse who has never been elected?

[Fife-Hibee]

You can sense their pain and desperation - https://twitter.com/ScotTories

[JeMeSouviens]

Jeremy AlmostNominativeDeterminism has done an article in the Telegraph where he says pushing for No Deal would be "political suicide". Note he doesn't actually gaf that it would lead to the death of manufacturing industry in the UK, hundreds of thousands of job losses etc, he's just concerned the Tories wouldn't get re-elected. What a Hunt.

[Fife-Hibee]

[The Modfather]

Was having a read about the Tory candidates having not heard of a fair few of them. Without knowing a great deal about some of them and how far right they are etc. On the face of it, Esther McVey seemed to come from a different background to the majority that attended Eton & Oxbridge.

In the context of a Tory Pm, so the least worst option, would her background as a Scouse foster child make her any more likely to “represent for the many and not the few”? Or is my cynicism of the majority of all politicians from all parties in being self serving a more likely outcome?

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In July 2018 it was reported by the head of the National Audit Office (NAO) that McVey had misled parliament over the new Universal Credit scheme by claiming that the NAO report showed that it should be rolled out faster when in fact the report concluded that the roll-out should be paused.[41] She apologised to the House of Commons on 4 July 2018[4][5] amid calls for her resignation.[5] Margaret Greenwood said in Parliament, "The secretary of state should be ashamed that she has been forced to come to this house again. If she misread this report so badly this brings in to question her competence and her judgment. If she did read the report and chose to misrepresent its findings, she has clearly broken the ministerial code. Either way, she should resign."[42]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_McVey

[allmodcons]

Boris helping vindicate the title thread?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48445430

[Fife-Hibee]

Some brilliant stuff cropping up on social media.



Exactly the way to respond to this kind of thing in my opinion.

[ronaldo7]

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Some brilliant stuff cropping up on social media.



Exactly the way to respond to this kind of thing in my opinion.

It's been a hoot.

Watch out though, someone will be along soon enough to claim the Indy movement are bullying poor wee Saj.

[SHODAN]

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[stoneyburn hibs]

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😁😁

[JeMeSouviens]

V interesting thread here by the Telegraph's (yes, I know a hotbed of Marxist insurrection) Europe Editor, Peter Foster.

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status...36168239177728

... in which it turns out that Dominic Raab is:

a) a lying *******

and

b) a self-serving Jeremy Hunt


Who would ever have thought that? Consider me shocked, nay, stunned.

[JeMeSouviens]

BUT HERE IS A GENUINE SHOCK!

Rory Stewart admits a no deal Brexit would see the end of UK manufacturing industry:

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/st...20453897515008

He seems to have got a bit lost on his way from a 19th Century Imperial adventure, but Rory Stewart may have elements of truthfulness about him. No chance the Tory members are going to go for that!

[Bangkok Hibby]

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In July 2018 it was reported by the head of the National Audit Office (NAO) that McVey had misled parliament over the new Universal Credit scheme by claiming that the NAO report showed that it should be rolled out faster when in fact the report concluded that the roll-out should be paused.[41] She apologised to the House of Commons on 4 July 2018[4][5] amid calls for her resignation.[5] Margaret Greenwood said in Parliament, "The secretary of state should be ashamed that she has been forced to come to this house again. If she misread this report so badly this brings in to question her competence and her judgment. If she did read the report and chose to misrepresent its findings, she has clearly broken the ministerial code. Either way, she should resign."[42]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_McVey

Tory women politicians = ****s. Said it before and probably won't ever change my mind. Way worse than the men, rabid harridans every one. Leadsom gets a "maybe" because she has nice pins.
Shallow and childish perhaps but do any deserve a better critique?

[JeMeSouviens]

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Tory women politicians = ****s. Said it before and probably won't ever change my mind. Way worse than the men, rabid harridans every one. Leadsom gets a "maybe" because she has nice pins.
Shallow and childish perhaps but do any deserve a better critique?

I don't think they're generally worse than the men, tbh.

Loathsome - Esther McVey vs Dominic Raab
Hopeless - Chris Grayling vs Karen Bradley
Ok-ish, for a Tory - Justine Greening vs Dominic Grieve
Utterly mental - Mark Francois vs Andrea Jenkyns