(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Hibernia&Alba]

[Hibbyradge]

It's incredible how unlucky The Donald has been with his friends and allies.

An honourable and honest man like him must be wondering how all this has happened without him knowing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47002713

I haven't been paying a lot of attention over the years, but it's probably quite common for most of a President's associates to be charged with criminal offences.

[Fife-Hibee]

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It's incredible how unlucky The Donald has been with his friends and allies.

An honourable and honest man like him must be wondering how all this has happened without him knowing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47002713

I haven't been paying a lot of attention over the years, but it's probably quite common for most of a President's associates to be charged with criminal offences.

Not in America.

We better get used to it. They're going to be our main trading partners soon.

[Hibbyradge]

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Not in America.

We better get used to it. They're going to be our main trading partners soon.

I take it you use the word "partners" loosely?

"Masters" will be more accurate if Trump is in charge.

[Slavers]

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It's incredible how unlucky The Donald has been with his friends and allies.

An honourable and honest man like him must be wondering how all this has happened without him knowing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47002713

I haven't been paying a lot of attention over the years, but it's probably quite common for most of a President's associates to be charged with criminal offences.

Well at least he is not flying on the lolita express like the Clintons.

[Colr]

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Well at least he is not flying on the lolita express like the Clintons.

You sure he’s not?

[Slavers]

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You sure he’s not?

Can't be sure of course. Tbh I'm not fan or trump I think he is a Satanist and most probably a dirty creep.

But the Clintons have been known to have been on it.

Its just the hypocritical bashing of trump that sticks in the craw. The Clintons are vile **** but you won't hear a word against them from HibbyRadge he keeps it all for trump.

Why call out one but not the other?

[RyeSloan]

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Not in America.

We better get used to it. They're going to be our main trading partners soon.

We are used to it already...the US is Scotland’s biggest international export market.


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[Smartie]

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Can't be sure of course. Tbh I'm not fan or trump I think he is a Satanist and most probably a dirty creep.

But the Clintons have been known to have been on it.

Its just the hypocritical bashing of trump that sticks in the craw. The Clintons are vile **** but you won't hear a word against them from HibbyRadge he keeps it all for trump.

Why call out one but not the other?

Have most of the world's population not accepted that one of the main reasons we ended up with the ghastly Trump was because it was a straight shootout between him and the ghastly Clinton?

[Hibbyradge]

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Can't be sure of course. Tbh I'm not fan or trump I think he is a Satanist and most probably a dirty creep.

But the Clintons have been known to have been on it.

Its just the hypocritical bashing of trump that sticks in the craw. The Clintons are vile **** but you won't hear a word against them from HibbyRadge he keeps it all for trump.

Why call out one but not the other?

Are the Clintons in power again?

How did I miss that?

[Slavers]

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Have most of the world's population not accepted that one of the main reasons we ended up with the ghastly Trump was because it was a straight shootout between him and the ghastly Clinton?

True but it's a bit rich slating Trump's associates when the very person you Championed for the US presidency had even worse connections but never mentioned them.

All the deaths connected to the Clintons not a peep said.

Same with the indy ref and brexit vote. It's a total disregard for the outcome of vote just a onward push for a new vote and overturn the decision.

If and when Indy ref 2 happens then the same forces that have tried to thwart brexit will go and try thwart scottish independence. The people who will complain that the establishment are stopping scottish independence are the same people taking glee now as they watch the same establishment trying to stop Brexit.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Here's a bizarre one, or at least I thought it was. Quite ridiculous really.

My father is coming over from the States next week to bury his last remaining sibling. He's bringing his American wife and a close personal friend who's never been outside America. No visas required for each visitor.

My son is coming over in August from Shanghai, bringing his friend who's never been outside China. His friend needs to have a minimum of £6000 to be allowed to enter the UK, of which will be put in a holding pot until he departs.

[Slavers]

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Here's a bizarre one, or at least I thought it was. Quite ridiculous really.

My father is coming over from the States next week to bury his last remaining sibling. He's bringing his American wife and a close personal friend who's never been outside America. No visas required for each visitor.

My son is coming over in August from Shanghai, bringing his friend who's never been outside China. His friend needs to have a minimum of £6000 to be allowed to enter the UK, of which will be put in a holding pot until he departs.

Its to deter economic migrants from countries where the average pay is pittance.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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Its to deter economic migrants from countries where the average pay is pittance.

Do you agree with it ?

[Slavers]

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Do you agree with it ?

That would depend how successful it was. I don't know enough information about it to make judgement if it's a good deterrent or not.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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That would depend how successful it was. I don't know enough information about it to make judgement if it's a good deterrent or not.

Fair enough, I understand that it can't be case by case but the two separate visitors experiences are going to be the same with one much more harshly treated. We've got to go through ETSA confirmation and the American border control, Americans can come here visa free for 6 months business or leisure . I'm perturbed.

[RyeSloan]

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Here's a bizarre one, or at least I thought it was. Quite ridiculous really.

My father is coming over from the States next week to bury his last remaining sibling. He's bringing his American wife and a close personal friend who's never been outside America. No visas required for each visitor.

My son is coming over in August from Shanghai, bringing his friend who's never been outside China. His friend needs to have a minimum of £6000 to be allowed to enter the UK, of which will be put in a holding pot until he departs.

Really? Wow.

That can’t be totally ‘normal’ though surely?

All the Chinese tourists I see in Edinburgh can’t have been asked to front £6k holding deposit for a visitor visa can they?


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[Ozyhibby]

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Really? Wow.

That can’t be totally ‘normal’ though surely?

All the Chinese tourists I see in Edinburgh can’t have been asked to front £6k holding deposit for a visitor visa can they?


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It is surely no surprise that visa requirements are different for every country?


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[RyeSloan]

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It is surely no surprise that visa requirements are different for every country?


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Obviously not.

As I said though I am surprised if every Chinese visitor to the UK is being asked for a £6k bond.

[Smartie]

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Obviously not.

As I said though I am surprised if every Chinese visitor to the UK is being asked for a £6k bond.

Is it that unusual?

China is a crazy country. Some have huge wealth, the vast majority have a very different lifestyle and desolate poverty is widespread.

It is also easy to underestimate the size of the population there.

The ones who can afford to visit Scotland are relatively few and are of the highest wealth bracket. THey'd be a comfortably able to put down a £6k deposit on a holiday, whilst a good few families could probably live off that for a few years.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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Really? Wow.

That can’t be totally ‘normal’ though surely?

All the Chinese tourists I see in Edinburgh can’t have been asked to front £6k holding deposit for a visitor visa can they?


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I couldn't believe it when my son told me. They've checked and double checked, that's the deal.

[Colr]

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Can't be sure of course. Tbh I'm not fan or trump I think he is a Satanist and most probably a dirty creep.

But the Clintons have been known to have been on it.

Its just the hypocritical bashing of trump that sticks in the craw. The Clintons are vile **** but you won't hear a word against them from HibbyRadge he keeps it all for trump.

Why call out one but not the other?

Trump’s reputed to be a hood.

[Fife-Hibee]

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We are used to it already...the US is Scotland’s biggest international export market.


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It's not the exports that bother me. It's what we're going to start importing from them and the health regulations that will be torn up in order to accommodate these imports.

[Mantis Toboggan]

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Well at least he is not flying on the lolita express like the Clintons.

Worst whataboutery I have ever seen. What the actual ****. How are you still posting on here.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Tbh I'm not fan or trump I think he is a Satanist.

Which is his God/Satan given right in the secular society he represents.

I can't believe I find myself defending Trump and against accusations that are nuttier than he is.

[RyeSloan]

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It's not the exports that bother me. It's what we're going to start importing from them and the health regulations that will be torn up in order to accommodate these imports.

You spend a lot of time bothering about stuff that hasn’t happened, won’t happen or even if it does happen will not be in the way you envisage.

You said on another thread that you only deal in facts (while going on to list nothing of the sort but that’s another story) so I’m interested in the facts on what we are going to start importing from the US and what health regulations have been torn up.

To be clear I’m interested in verifiable facts not your conjecture or your rather imaginative beliefs of the horrors that await.

[Tobias Funke]

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Well at least he is not flying on the lolita express like the Clintons.

QAnon conspiracy theory. Further proof you are off your chomp mate.

[Fife-Hibee]

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You spend a lot of time bothering about stuff that hasn’t happened, won’t happen or even if it does happen will not be in the way you envisage.

You said on another thread that you only deal in facts (while going on to list nothing of the sort but that’s another story) so I’m interested in the facts on what we are going to start importing from the US and what health regulations have been torn up.

To be clear I’m interested in verifiable facts not your conjecture or your rather imaginative beliefs of the horrors that await.

Where do you see us getting our vast bulk of imports after no-deal Brexit? Once we're out the EFSA is no longer going to apply. Instead the UK Government will draw up it's own FDA. One where they put profits before human health, much like the US equivalent.

I don't need to prove it. Because the proof will unfold by itself.

[Pete]

Let’s be honest it doesn’t matter who is in charge, we never have to much longer than a decade for the good old “let’s meddle in other countries affairs/ let’s effect regime change on ideological grounds” carry on from the champions of corporate freedom.

I expect it from them but it’s worse when people who are supposed to be speaking on my behalf, such as the UK government or the neoliberal states of Europe back are backing them up like obedient lap dogs. Makes me sick to my stomach.

[Fife-Hibee]

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Let’s be honest it doesn’t matter who is in charge, we never have to much longer than a decade for the good old “let’s meddle in other countries affairs/ let’s effect regime change on ideological grounds” carry on from the champions of corporate freedom.

I expect it from them but it’s worse when people who are supposed to be speaking on my behalf, such as the UK government or the neoliberal states of Europe back are backing them up like obedient lap dogs. Makes me sick to my stomach.

It's almost as if there is a hidden tier of government that governs over all other governments. But that's just crazy conspiracy pish, right?