Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[marinello59]

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It's odd if there's nothing to hide.

The SFA's position certainly appears untenable, so we may get an enquiry, although based on previous experience they will probably try to influence it's scope and terms.

The fact that they are leaking letters to the press to try and isolate Celtic and distract from the real issues indicates they are not going to go down without a fight.

As for the other member clubs, maybe they want the enquiry for genuine reasons or are bowing to fan pressure: maybe they are paying lip service and hope that it all goes away with the SFA refusal. Who knows, but I would think twice about stickining my neck out too far and risking the wrath of the Hun hoards.

I really don't think that's an option, they have now backed themselves in to a corner where if there is an enquiry it will have to be totally independent. Their statement may have unintentionally made an enquiry more likely now.

[Stonewall]

[QUOTE=grunt;5163927]Chris McLaughlin‏Verified account @BBCchrismclaug 1m1 minute ago




#Celtic release statement saying if #SFA don't agree to Rangers EBT review it represents "failure in transparency and leadership."[/QUOTE

Not happy about their letter being leaked yesterday. Gloves are off.

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[CropleyWasGod]

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I really don't think that's an option, they have now backed themselves in to a corner where if there is an enquiry it will have to be totally independent. Their statement may have unintentionally made an enquiry more likely now.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but perhaps there are those within the SFA who have been aiming for this outcome all along.

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[Ozyhibby]

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Chris McLaughlin‏Verified account @BBCchrismclaug 1m1 minute ago




#Celtic release statement saying if #SFA don't agree to Rangers EBT review it represents "failure in transparency and leadership."[/QUOTE

Not happy about their letter being leaked yesterday. Gloves are off.

Good. It's time Hibs picked a side here and I think it's always better to be on the side of those looking for the truth.


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[marinello59]

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Call me a conspiracy theorist, but perhaps there are those within the SFA who have been aiming for this outcome all along.

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I've been thinking along similar lines since the SFA statement came out.

[Ozyhibby]

Celtic have published all their correspondence with the SFA on the issue.
http://cdn.celticfc.net/assets/downl...espondence.pdf
Gloves really are coming off.


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[marinello59]

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Good. It's time Hibs picked a side here and I think it's always better to be on the side of those looking for the truth.


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Who says they haven't already decided what side they are on and always have been?
It looks like a very clever game of chess has been played in the background by Celtic and others.

[Kavinho]

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Good. It's time Hibs picked a side here and I think it's always better to be on the side of those looking for the truth.


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The truth is out there!

[CropleyWasGod]

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I've been thinking along similar lines since the SFA statement came out.

There's no evidence, of course, but it's as valid as the knee-jerk assumption that Rod has stitched us up.

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[Ozyhibby]

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Who says they haven't already decided what side they are on and always have been?
It looks like a very clever game of chess has been played in the background by Celtic and others.

Let's hope we have. Now is the time to go public on that.


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[marinello59]

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There's no evidence, of course, but it's as valid as the knee-jerk assumption that Rod has stitched us up.

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Aye.

[Ozyhibby]

It would be brilliant to find out that Hibs and Rod had been working away in the background to get to the truth here and I will be the first to congratulate them if that is the case.


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[The Pointer]

While I haven't attempted to contribute anything to this lengthy debate I enjoy much of the inciteful comments contributed by many of you.

I think we've been in a trough those past few weeks and think the SFA statement which prompted this Celtc one may take us towards another crest, this in turn hopefully leading to some heads rolling - eventually. However, I think it's important that we hear from the other professional clubs to get their opinion, but there hasn't been a peep (apart from Stewart Milne) and I have no idea what their attitude is - let alone that of Hibs.

I don't want those in charge during this sorry episode to continue and would like us to start from a clean sheet, therefore I hope all those in favour of 'integrity and fairness' ultimately succeed for the image and future prosperity of the game in Scotland.

Roll on page 2000.

[Ozyhibby]

Now that everyone is going public, I don't think it's fair if Celtic are alone in this. It's time for Hibs and the other clubs to show their support.


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[marinello59]

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Now that everyone is going public, I don't think it's fair if Celtic are alone in this. It's time for Hibs and the other clubs to show their support.


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Given the events of the last couple of days then it probably is now time for Hibs to say something.

[Skol]

Its now clear to me why Hibs didnt make the promised statement. It is just a shame Tracey was hung out to dry and not allowed to say that the plans had changed but she couldnt divulge why.This whole thing though isnt straightforward.

The current rangers is not the same club as the one with 54 titls, some of which were tainted and so we cant strip titles that they didnt win. What we could do is make it clear they are a new club with only a few years history and only 3 lower league titles to their name

[Ozyhibby]

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Its now clear to me why Hibs didnt make the promised statement. It is just a shame Tracey was hung out to dry and not allowed to say that the plans had changed but she couldnt divulge why.This whole thing though isnt straightforward.

The current rangers is not the same club as the one with 54 titls, some of which were tainted and so we cant strip titles that they didnt win. What we could do is make it clear they are a new club with only a few years history and only 3 lower league titles to their name

Titles still need to be stripped from old Rangers.


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[7 Up]

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Celtic release statement saying if SFA don't agree to Rangers EBT review it represents "failure in transparency and leadership."

Absolutely correct. The SFA's line about not wanting to rake over the coals deserves nothing but contempt.

[MichaelTheCelt]

Don't doubt for a minute that the Hibs board have been working on something in the background. Maybe Celtic have taken the lead on this particular issue behind the scenes and the rest were waiting to see what Lawwell and Co done.

[Spike Mandela]

Dons supporters organisation react to SFA statement.......at odds with Stewart Milne.

http://www.donssupporterstogether.co...ebt-statement/

[green day]

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Call me a conspiracy theorist, but perhaps there are those within the SFA who have been aiming for this outcome all along.

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I think it is part of a strategy, and perhaps it could even have been devised by someone with a history of clever deals but who prefers them done without the glare of publicity.

Do we know anyone like that? 😉

[Andy74]

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Titles still need to be stripped from old Rangers.


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That's not what an enquiry would be about though so it's worth considering the realistic outcome we could get from this. A liong and expensive enquiry to tell us that mistakes were made in how the original rules were designed?

I think a number of people asking for this to be looked at again are expecting some sort of justice in the form of action against Rangers.

That's not going to happen.

[matty_f]

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That's not what an enquiry would be about though so it's worth considering the realistic outcome we could get from this. A liong and expensive enquiry to tell us that mistakes were made in how the original rules were designed?

I think a number of people asking for this to be looked at again are expecting some sort of justice in the form of action against Rangers.

That's not going to happen.

[Betty Boop]

According to Chris McLaughlin there are no top flight clubs in favour of a review specific to Rangers. (apart of course from Celtic)

[Thecat23]

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According to Chris McLaughlin there are no top flight clubs in favour of a review specific to Rangers. (apart of course from Celtic)

Shock horror, because the rest unlike Celtic are *****bags.

[Ozyhibby]

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According to Chris McLaughlin there are no top flight clubs in favour of a review specific to Rangers. (apart of course from Celtic)

They are trying to isolate Celtic on Sportsound. It's time for other clubs to step up.


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[Thecat23]

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That's not what an enquiry would be about though so it's worth considering the realistic outcome we could get from this. A liong and expensive enquiry to tell us that mistakes were made in how the original rules were designed?

I think a number of people asking for this to be looked at again are expecting some sort of justice in the form of action against Rangers.

That's not going to happen.

Why is it so unrealistic for fans to think more can be done? Titles should be stripped. Do you think Celtic would honestly waste time wanting another investigation if they really didn't think titles could be taken from The Rangers?

They know there is plenty that can still be taken against them, but other clubs are afraid. As usual.

[Betty Boop]

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They are trying to isolate Celtic on Sportsound. It's time for other clubs to step up.


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Maybe other clubs have got skeletons in their closet ?

[marinello59]

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Maybe other clubs have got skeletons in their closet ?

That's more than probable. Any enquiry will be about Scottish Football and how it is run as a whole.