Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Betty Boop]

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https://thecelticblog.com/2017/09/bl...porting-press/


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Yea I'm sure the Celtic 'bloggers' have all of Scottish football's best interests at heart.

[Ozyhibby]

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Yea I'm sure the Celtic 'bloggers' have all of Scottish football's best interests at heart.

Their intent doesn't really bother me, just that on this occasion they are right to want an enquiry.


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[HoboHarry]

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Yea I'm sure the Celtic 'bloggers' have all of Scottish football's best interests at heart.

First and foremost I have Hibs interests at heart but that doesn't mean that I don't care about Scottish footballs best interests........

[MrSmith]

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Yea I'm sure the Celtic 'bloggers' have all of Scottish football's best interests at heart.

Surely we all need to follow this lead? Whether or not they are serving a united platform, their agenda on the whole is correct.

[marinello59]

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Surely we all need to follow this lead? Whether or not they are serving a united platform, their agenda on the whole is correct.

Their 'agenda' consists of giving their bitterest rivals another kicking whilst ensuring the current one horse race continues. Self- righteous, hypocritical pompous ****ers rather than leaders.
IMHO of course.

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Rangers haven't had a kicking yet. Once they've had one, we can think about giving them another. 😀

[Smartie]

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Their 'agenda' consists of giving their bitterest rivals another kicking whilst ensuring the current one horse race continues. Self- righteous, hypocritical pompous ****ers rather than leaders.
IMHO of course.

Their "agenda" (and what our agenda should be) is driven by a justified sense of being aggrieved at having had to make sacrifices, staring down your own fans demanding that you splash the cash and watching your club suffer as a result, whilst those in charge of the club take the flak, all in the name of running a business sensibly, properly and ensuring that the club exists for years to come, whilst other clubs have taken shortcuts to success, having broken the rules along the way, failing to have been punished, failing to have co-operated honestly and openly with enquiries and bringing the whole game into disrepute. The people behind these misdeeds still hold positions of power at clubs and at the authorities - this fact is ridiculous and laughable.

The fans of their club, and ours, are buying tickets for a competition that has lost credibility in the eyes of the fans in terms of the consistency of how punishments for blatant rule-breaking are handed out.

There is only so long that a competition lacking in "sporting integrity" can be viable.

A proper, impartial investigation is required. We need to have confidence in the people running our game. We need ALL clubs to co-operate, to act with appropriate candour (i.e. it doesn't become a Celtic-minded witch hunt), we may need to punish individuals or organisations appropriately and we need to do it properly.

We need to know how financial chicanery on the scale carried out by Rangers will be punished if it carried out in future, and have confidence in the people in charge to do so.

Otherwise why shouldn't Celtic, Hibs or anyone else not just play the way Rangers 1872 RIP did?

Rangers fans should be as interested in this as anyone. They might win a league at some point in the future. If they do, they should want to take great pride in the salvation of their club from where it was to a position where it wins a tough, clean competition fair and square. Their insistence on keeping their tainted titles and refusal to co-operate with previous enquiries, generally defensive/aggressive nature and general bawbaggery makes this a difficult situation to envisage.



Then we need to move on.




(ps - we shouldn't be put off doing this by the fact that there probably are a good few foil-hatted, foaming-mouthed Celtic lunatics who are desperate to put the boot into their old rivals).

[Deansy]

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https://www.rangersobserver.com/news...gainst-rangers

Bit of balance.


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'Despite the overwhelming desire of most Scottish clubs to move past this topic .......................'

[Ozyhibby]

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Their "agenda" (and what our agenda should be) is driven by a justified sense of being aggrieved at having had to make sacrifices, staring down your own fans demanding that you splash the cash and watching your club suffer as a result, whilst those in charge of the club take the flak, all in the name of running a business sensibly, properly and ensuring that the club exists for years to come, whilst other clubs have taken shortcuts to success, having broken the rules along the way, failing to have been punished, failing to have co-operated honestly and openly with enquiries and bringing the whole game into disrepute. The people behind these misdeeds still hold positions of power at clubs and at the authorities - this fact is ridiculous and laughable.

The fans of their club, and ours, are buying tickets for a competition that has lost credibility in the eyes of the fans in terms of the consistency of how punishments for blatant rule-breaking are handed out.

There is only so long that a competition lacking in "sporting integrity" can be viable.

A proper, impartial investigation is required. We need to have confidence in the people running our game. We need ALL clubs to co-operate, to act with appropriate candour (i.e. it doesn't become a Celtic-minded witch hunt), we may need to punish individuals or organisations appropriately and we need to do it properly.

We need to know how financial chicanery on the scale carried out by Rangers will be punished if it carried out in future, and have confidence in the people in charge to do so.

Otherwise why shouldn't Celtic, Hibs or anyone else not just play the way Rangers 1872 RIP did?

Rangers fans should be as interested in this as anyone. They might win a league at some point in the future. If they do, they should want to take great pride in the salvation of their club from where it was to a position where it wins a tough, clean competition fair and square. Their insistence on keeping their tainted titles and refusal to co-operate with previous enquiries, generally defensive/aggressive nature and general bawbaggery makes this a difficult situation to envisage.



Then we need to move on.




(ps - we shouldn't be put off doing this by the fact that there probably are a good few foil-hatted, foaming-mouthed Celtic lunatics who are desperate to put the boot into their old rivals).

Fantastic post.


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[Betty Boop]

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Their 'agenda' consists of giving their bitterest rivals another kicking whilst ensuring the current one horse race continues. Self- righteous, hypocritical pompous ****ers rather than leaders.
IMHO of course.

Exactly.

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...case-1-4555105

Aberdeen chairman takes up his traditional pro Rangers stance.


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[Ozyhibby]

There seems now to be nobody in the game now saying that there is no evidence of cheating, just that having an enquiry will make them look bad. That's not really a defence at all and I can't see it lasting. I just don't see people moving on until the truth is heard.


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[HoboHarry]

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http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...case-1-4555105

Aberdeen chairman takes up his traditional pro Rangers stance.


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Is he really too stupid to see that the negativity continues because they are getting away with it? Most people would see it as a good thing if there was a thorough clean out at the SFA...........

[MrSmith]

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Their 'agenda' consists of giving their bitterest rivals another kicking whilst ensuring the current one horse race continues. Self- righteous, hypocritical pompous ****ers rather than leaders.
IMHO of course.

Do you dislike Celtic that much? Your responses are nothing short of incredulous!

[ancient hibee]

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Do you dislike Celtic that much? Your responses are nothing short of incredulous!

I thought they were pretty accurate.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Do you dislike Celtic that much? Your responses are nothing short of incredulous!

Some of us dislike everyone bar the cabbage

[Ozyhibby]

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Some of us dislike everyone bar the cabbage

Nothing wrong with that.


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[MrSmith]

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I thought they were pretty accurate.

In what way?

[MrSmith]

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Some of us dislike everyone bar the cabbage

i guess I'm not as parochial as that!

[MrSmith]

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Nothing wrong with that.


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there is where justice is concerned!

[Ozyhibby]

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there is where justice is concerned!

Two different things. If someone wants to take time out to insult another team then that's cool.


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[MrSmith]

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Two different things. If someone wants to take time out to insult another team then that's cool.


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Again and at this juncture, that is parochial and emotionally unintelligent.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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i guess I'm not as parochial as that!

So you like other teams as well as the cabbage? Cool

[MrSmith]

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So you like other teams as well as the cabbage? Cool

this isn't about tribalism, it's about justice! But cool nonetheless 👍

[Baldy Foghorn]

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this isn't about tribalism, it's about justice! But cool nonetheless 👍

So you said you weren't narrow minded? Is having a like for one team only narrow minded?

[marinello59]

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Do you dislike Celtic that much? Your responses are nothing short of incredulous!

Perhaps you could highlight the particular points you find 'incredulous' . Cheers.

[MrSmith]

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Perhaps you could highlight the particular points you find 'incredulous' . Cheers.

Look back through your posting regarding Celtic.

[MrSmith]

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So you said you weren't narrow minded? Is having a like for one team only narrow minded?

I don't recall narrow minded?

[marinello59]

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Look back through your posting regarding Celtic.

That's not really an answer is it?

[Malthibby]

I want sevco nailed, I want the SFA and all who sail in her nailed, I want it acknowledged that our system is corrupt, has been corrupt for years and needs to be replaced, I want shot of everyone who thinks we can just carry on regardless, I really, really want our media to grow a collective pair.
Imagination, that's all it takes and I don't give a bxgger about any Celtic agenda; in this instance they are on the side of the goodies (ourselves and everyone else the rangers have been pxssing on for years). I've spent most of my life having to accept our footie is rigged, I don't want my grandson having to put up with it for the rest of his life as well.
he deserves better, we deserve better.
GG