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    537 52.85%
  • Opposed - but will continue to support the game.

    454 44.69%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    The gift that keeps on giving.
    Begbie's Traynor...a new addition to the soap opera, it conjures so many images

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
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    Boards across the country will just be chuffed with the timing.
    The Rangers debacle came to a head before season tickets were being sold and the prospect of boycotts was real

    The court decision has arrived well into the ST sales period and so there is little to worry about for many clubs

    Expect the statements to reflect this level of comfort.

    But A question, does anyone know if there are any rules in place now that could lead to the stripping of titles?


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    I've read this before but still don't understand it:

    https://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/rangers-oldco-not-guilty-of-fielding-ineligible-players-why/amp/

    It seems that Rangers did field ineligible players but as they weren't rumbled at the time it's all fine?

    The LNS Commission seems one big fudge from beginning to end.

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    I care little for Rangers/Sevco. Our board should adopt the same approach. Their threats and intimidations are empty, Scottish football thrived without them and we will do so again. Strip the titles for the sake of Scottish football or we may as well just padlock the metaphorical gates.
    "Play for the name on the front of the jersey and the supporters will remember the name on the back"

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    Justice must be done! Anything else weakens and criminalises our game. Those who run Scottish Football are supposed to be beyond reproach however, what rangers and their crooked cronies did invcluding those in the football
    Association (5 way agreement?) require to be investigated and stripped of every title and office bearing position they have.

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    The huns cheating almost ruined scottish football , the titles should be stripped .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee View Post
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    I care little for Rangers/Sevco. Our board should adopt the same approach. Their threats and intimidations are empty, Scottish football thrived without them and we will do so again. Strip the titles for the sake of Scottish football or we may as well just padlock the metaphorical gates.
    This 100%.

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    Saw this on Twitter yesterday, it's a rough estimate of what fans of each individual club paid to attend SPL games during the EBT years or the decade of deception as that twitter account called itScreenshot_20170722-163956.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee View Post
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    I care little for Rangers/Sevco. Our board should adopt the same approach. Their threats and intimidations are empty, Scottish football thrived without them and we will do so again. Strip the titles for the sake of Scottish football or we may as well just padlock the metaphorical gates.
    Yeah, but... Armageddon, civil unrest, turkeys voting for xmas doncha know

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    http://onfieldsofgreen.com/history-w...utes-our-game/

    Good article.


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    Make all the threats they want, we've heard them all before. Rangers cannot hold everyone to ransom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    http://onfieldsofgreen.com/history-w...utes-our-game/

    Good article.


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    It reads like a parody. What a load of pompous tosh.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    http://onfieldsofgreen.com/history-w...utes-our-game/

    Good article.


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    I got 10 paras in and gave up. Does the article have any relevance to the subject at hand?

    As I've said before, a focus on brevity and relevance would really help these people make their case. As it is they are failing to take people with them due to their long winded, self satisfied and obtuse prose.

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    Would Ragers have won those titles anyway? Maybe, maybe not, we will never actually know but surely the benefit of the doubt has to go against the party who did the wrongdoings i.e Rangers. They wouldn't have had to use seedy deals and underhand tactics and risk punishment if caught if the players in question were going to sign for them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21.05.2016 View Post
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    Make all the threats they want, we've heard them all before. Rangers cannot hold everyone to ransom.
    They don't have to hold everyone to ransom, only the people who make the important decisions, and that is really not that many unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    I got 10 paras in and gave up. Does the article have any relevance to the subject at hand?

    As I've said before, a focus on brevity and relevance would really help these people make their case. As it is they are failing to take people with them due to their long winded, self satisfied and obtuse prose.
    It's a blog, not a comment on a Fans' Forum. If you'd stuck with it you would have found it had plenty relevance to the subject at hand. Personally I enjoyed the historical & literary allusions & found it an interesting & different perspective on a well worn story. Each to their own.

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    http://forums.scottishfootballforums...attach_id=2781


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    https://www.aidanearley.org/news/
    It looks very much like Craig Whyte and Aiden Earley want their club back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://www.aidanearley.org/news/
    It looks very much like Craig Whyte and Aiden Earley want their club back.


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    Aiden is bent to his marrow - as was his late brother, Brendan who was a company accountant at a dodgy publishing outfit I worked at around 25 years ago. Not one ounce of honesty to be found in the whole family.

    He does know tax law and is probably getting advice from the ex-owner of said publishing company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    Aiden is bent to his marrow - as was his late brother, Brendan who was a company accountant at a dodgy publishing outfit I worked at around 25 years ago. Not one ounce of honesty to be found in the whole family.

    He does know tax law and is probably getting advice from the ex-owner of said publishing company.
    So not as bad as all the other chancers involved in all this?


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    The letter before action above is probably this one referred to here:-
    https://www.channel4.com/news/by/ale...-letter-action


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    This bit seems to have gone without comment:-

    BDO will now also pursue more than 80 former players and staff, like Murray and former club captain Barry Ferguson, who benefited from an elaborate tax avoidance scheme – Employee Benefit Trusts, which the Supreme Court ruled were disguised salary payments. The recipients will be forced to pay back millions of pounds to the HMRC through BDO or face bankruptcy. It is believed that the Revenue has recovered more than £1bn from other of those schemes.

    I'm not so sure that BDO can do this, or even if the Herald are just speculating. If BDO do take action, though, it's going to prolong the liquidation by years whilst the various legal battles play out. If they're successful, it may be game on again for a decent payout to creditors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    This bit seems to have gone without comment:-

    BDO will now also pursue more than 80 former players and staff, like Murray and former club captain Barry Ferguson, who benefited from an elaborate tax avoidance scheme – Employee Benefit Trusts, which the Supreme Court ruled were disguised salary payments. The recipients will be forced to pay back millions of pounds to the HMRC through BDO or face bankruptcy. It is believed that the Revenue has recovered more than £1bn from other of those schemes.

    I'm not so sure that BDO can do this, or even if the Herald are just speculating. If BDO do take action, though, it's going to prolong the liquidation by years whilst the various legal battles play out. If they're successful, it may be game on again for a decent payout to creditors.
    Would Whittaker be affected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneone73 View Post
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    Would Whittaker be affected?
    Don't remember ever seeing him or Thomson on the list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Don't remember ever seeing him or Thomson on the list.


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    Latapy might have had one though?


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    Quote Originally Posted by oneone73 View Post
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    Would Whittaker be affected?
    Ian Murray only Hibby I can see....


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-34118126

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    Today is the SPFL AGM which makes Hibs decision to only get round to discuss this at next Monday's board meeting baffling. There will be a decision made today on this and we don't know how Hibs are going to vote? Has an executive decision been made without the approval of the board?
    Can you provide any info please Tracey?


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    [QUOTE=Ozyhibby;5112292]Today is the SPFL AGM which makes Hibs decision to only get round to discuss this at next Monday's board meeting baffling. There will be a decision made today on this and we don't know how Hibs are going to vote? Has an executive decision been made without the approval of the board?
    Can you provide any info please Tracey?


    Is it on the agenda? I'd be surprised if this was part of the business of an AGM.

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