(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[NYHibby]

So an old acquaintance of mine was working as one of Trump's political commissars. I recently heard that he got fired because he was refusing to let Mitch McConnell's wife (the secretary of transportation) send any outgoing mail. He was collecting it and leaving it pile up in some room.

[NYHibby]

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Sadly I believe it's Pence that steps in. Obviously his first act will be to pardon Trump much in the same way Ford pardoned Nixon.

Procedurally Pence would succeed Trump and serve the rest of his term. However, I think the reason why Trump resigns/is removed from office will dictate who actually would replace Trump. If Trump leaves office because of Russia and the election, as opposed to something like obstruction of justice, I could see that tainting Pence's legitimacy as president as well. It may make sense for the GOP to start with a relatively clean slate rather than have the spectre of a tainted election hanging over them. You'd broker a deal with Pence and make someone like Ryan President.

[Hibs Class]

Speaking at a coastguard ceremony today Trump said:

"Look at the way I’ve been treated lately . . . especially by the media,” Trump said, while talking about overcoming adversity. “No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.”

Guess he hasn't heard of Mandela, Lincoln, Kennedy, etc.

[High-On-Hibs]

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Speaking at a coastguard ceremony today Trump said:

"Look at the way I’ve been treated lately . . . especially by the media,” Trump said, while talking about overcoming adversity. “No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.”

Guess he hasn't heard of Mandela, Lincoln, Kennedy, etc.

You'd think he'd been shot in the head twice.

[marinello59]

The justice department have now named a special counsel to take charge of the Russia investigation. More high drama.

[Hibs Class]

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The justice department have now named a special counsel to take charge of the Russia investigation. More high drama.

A former FBI head. He must at least have a view on how Comey was treated. The appointment seems to have taken a few people by surprise.

[Wembley67]

All this ***** certainly isn't helping the markets... Idiot that he is!

[wpj]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7743291.html

The ego has landed (or not in this case)

[Radium]

Not the usual photo op


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[snooky]

From beeb webpage
Trump to Muslims, "'Drive extremists out"

I was just waiting for one of them to open a car door for him.

[Bishop Hibee]

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Not the usual photo op


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Quite possibly the most bizarre photo I have ever seen. If that's a Van de Graaff generator then I hope there's an after photo of his hair

[snooky]

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Quite possibly the most bizarre photo I have ever seen. If that's a Van de Graaff generator then I hope there's an after photo of his hair

With the caption "DT phone home"

[stoneyburn hibs]

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With the caption "DT phone home"

Brilliant!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Brilliant

[snooky]

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Brilliant

I sometimes wonder if the 'ceremonial' dances are a set up to make the guest look a complete and utter wally.
If so, it works.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The trump budget will hurt his core vote - poor, white, rural Americans.

[Colr]

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The trump budget will hurt his core vote - poor, white, rural Americans

There's a surprise.

[Saturday Boy]

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Not the usual photo op


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I often wondered what happened to the orb from Woody Allen's movie Sleeper. Now I know.

[Hibernia&Alba]

America leaving the Paris Agreement on climate change is disastrous. Trump is surrounded by climate change denying lunatics. It's a brazen policy of profit before planet, which is also going to do great harm to America.

[Moulin Yarns]

Janey Godley got it right

https://janeygodley.com/2016/06/28/w...rump-scotland/

[Sylar]

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America leaving the Paris Agreement on climate change is disastrous. Trump is surrounded by climate change denying lunatics. It's a brazen policy of profit before planet, which is also going to do great harm to America.

As an environmental scientist active in climate research, the rage I feel toward him and his "advisors" is impalpable.

I did find it encouraging to see various State governors come out yesterday and effectively say "**** you" to him, announcing they would continue to pursue their own initiatives to ensure the Paris agreement is upheld...probably until he fires them or otherwise silences them...

The man is a cancer and he must be removed from office before he destroys the planet, one way or t'other.

[Just Alf]

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America leaving the Paris Agreement on climate change is disastrous. Trump is surrounded by climate change denying lunatics. It's a brazen policy of profit before planet, which is also going to do great harm to America.

To add insult to injury I've just spotted he's also withdrawing the States from paying into the UN fund set up to help poorer countries deal with climate change, so he's happy to have helped cause the problem (continue to) but not happy to help those impacted.

[johnbc70]

I know this will be unpopular, but is he not doing what he said he would do? He said America first, he rightly or wrongly thinks it's a bad deal for America so has pulled out.

[easty]

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I know this will be unpopular, but is he not doing what he said he would do? He said America first, he rightly or wrongly thinks it's a bad deal for America so has pulled out.

As well as the fact that he says he wants to renogotiate the deal, but other leaders are saying there won't be any renegotiations. Why can't a new deal be sorted out that will include America? Surely a new deal is better than America just pulling out completely?

[grunt]

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As well as the fact that he says he wants to renogotiate the deal, but other leaders are saying there won't be any renegotiations. Why can't a new deal be sorted out that will include America? Surely a new deal is better than America just pulling out completely?

There is no "deal" with the Paris accord. It's a voluntary initiative whereby countries commit to trying to reduce carbon emissions. The man's a blithering idiot.


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[Mantis Toboggan]

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There is no "deal" with the Paris accord. It's a voluntary initiative whereby countries commit to trying to reduce carbon emissions. The man's a blithering idiot.


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He has no idea what he is talking about. His private secretaries should be at least making it look like he does. Incompetence all round.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

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As an environmental scientist active in climate research, the rage I feel toward him and his "advisors" is impalpable.

I did find it encouraging to see various State governors come out yesterday and effectively say "**** you" to him, announcing they would continue to pursue their own initiatives to ensure the Paris agreement is upheld...probably until he fires them or otherwise silences them...

The man is a cancer and he must be removed from office before he destroys the planet, one way or t'other.

I was thinking about this, but its not an area that i know a lot about.

Is there a chance that in a funny way, Trump doing this might help the issue as it has raised the profile hugely across the world (and in the states), and that it migjt galvanise local, city and state authorities to act anyway, in a way they might not have without this furore?

Or am i clutching at straws...?!

[Just Alf]

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I was thinking about this, but its not an area that i know a lot about.

Is there a chance that in a funny way, Trump doing this might help the issue as it has raised the profile hugely across the world (and in the states), and that it migjt galvanise local, city and state authorities to act anyway, in a way they might not have without this furore?

Or am i clutching at straws...?!

I wondered that as well...

Going quickly back to following through on his promises, I think many thought that once in power with all the real information to hand he'd change direction, maybe diverting additional support to the coal producing areas helping them modernise into new industries.

[Hibs Class]

Trump has stepped up his twitter onslaught in the last couple of days, making himself look increasingly irrational especially with his tweets on London attacks, the London mayor and Trump's planned travel ban.

[RyeSloan]

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I was thinking about this, but its not an area that i know a lot about.

Is there a chance that in a funny way, Trump doing this might help the issue as it has raised the profile hugely across the world (and in the states), and that it migjt galvanise local, city and state authorities to act anyway, in a way they might not have without this furore?

Or am i clutching at straws...?!

No I don't think you are. There are a few things to consider:

1) A lot of the change of direction on the climate is at state level in the US, this decision doesn't impact their programmes directly or in the short / medium term

2) Economics trumps Trump. The technological advances that are the driving force towards distributed generation and time shift storage are well and truly underway. These are driving down prices and attracting huge investment. Trumps decision does nothing to change this

3) Related to 2) but really the Paris agreement is just a lot of stated aims and non binding targets...you could say it's a lot of waffle when in the real world companies are busy investing capital. Politicians always think they set the direction when really they are simply reacting to what's already happening.

Ultimately solar and wind are plummeting in price, lith and van-redox are changing the game in storage, tesla and big auto are investing billions in full electric etc etc so while the US might no longer be leading on the political stage their companies and those in the rest of the world are. Add in huge Chinese support and I think this announcement while not welcome actually doesn't really matter hugely for the (hopefully) short time Trump will be around.