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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    So if is he saying they resigned on Monday, why did it only come out last night? Something isn't right here


    Why was he allowed to do the press on Thursday, where he was saying he had just spoke with Wattie Smith and got good advice from him.

    Something stinks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Why was he allowed to do the press on Thursday, where he was saying he had just spoke with Wattie Smith and got good advice from him.

    Something stinks.
    He denied the stories that McParland was leaving as well

    It's just another bizarre twist in the story of The Rangers

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    Why was he allowed to do the press on Thursday, where he was saying he had just spoke with Wattie Smith and got good advice from him.

    Something stinks.
    My money is on Ibrox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    So if is he saying they resigned on Monday, why did it only come out last night? Something isn't right here

    And why did Warburton take the press sitting on Thursday if he'd reigned with immediate effect on Monday? How does that work? What manager resigns from a job and waives substantial contract compensation when they don't have another offer officially in writing? I assume the Forest deal collapsed at the last minute says King. We can assume he has something in writing that Warburton relinquished his duties as manager. If not he owes him full contractual severance. Who would work for a snake like King after this stunt? Only a guy out the game like Davies.

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    Warburton took training on Friday yet they claim his employment was terminated immediately on Monday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Apologies, I hadn't even noticed it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    He denied the stories that McParland was leaving as well

    It's just another bizarre twist in the story of The Rangers

    Do the press/media not have the balls to ask the obvious questions from that statement.

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    King made a promise that 50 million would be invested into the club, 30 million of which would be his money.


    The truth is that 18 million has been loaned to the club, the majority of which came from people other than King.



    He's still a glib and shameless liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    So if is he saying they resigned on Monday, why did it only come out last night? Something isn't right here
    I see that last season was 'an unqualified success'. Did I just dream 21 May 2016?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is It On.... View Post
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    2nd admin is only if the original club was not liquidated.. interesting predicament for ra peepul
    That's not the case.

    The 25 point penalty applies if there's a second event within 5 years, irrespective of who the owners of the club are.

    The 5 years expires next week.

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    That's not the case.

    The 25 point penalty applies if there's a second event within 5 years, irrespective of who the new owners are.

    The 5 years expires next week.

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    New owners of a new club? Can't be the old club it's being liquidated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Do the press/media not have the balls to ask the obvious questions from that statement.
    Ever heard any of them, and I mean any of them, ask questions at pressers about sectarian singing or bigotry SH ?

    My view on combatting it is actually confronting managers, asking them what their thoughts are - put them literally on the spot - that way the support know publically the thoughts. No one civilised agrees with it - not one journalist is brave enough to ask, not one.

    Mind, Traynor would tamper with the microphones if a journalist ever took brave pills and asked such a question at a press conference.

    Cant remember one 'journalist' asking Warburton or Traynor to name what players were assaulted ?

    Football journalism shouldn't just be about the 90 minute game - they could make a very real difference, and in particular focus on The Rangers perpetuation of bigotry !

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    Slight problem with the heating at the bottom of the marble staircase?


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    [/QUOTE=silverhibee;4939972]Do the press/media not have the balls to ask the obvious questions from that statement.[/QUOTE]

    The muppets on FF don't like this contribution from Bill Leckie:


    Another Jhourno taking a pot shot, this time its us the fans that are the target. He names King in the same breath as Whyte and Green. Not fit for purpose.

    Hatchet job by Leckie

    YOUR fully-fledged, true blue Rangers fan is amongst the most unshakeably loyal creatures on earth.

    It’s just a pity that loyalty is as blind as Stevie Wonder with a lead-lined paper bag on his head

    Rangers fans
    They’re like the guy whose mates tell him from day one of a relationship that she’s no good, she’s a gold-digger, she’s putting it about behind his back, but he would rather square go the lot of them than admit he’s besotted with a wrong ‘un.

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    Then one day it all falls apart, she disappears with his brother and he’s left sitting on the floor of a living room with no furniture, the credit card company battering at his door and an unbearable itch in his pants.

    Again.

    Not that I’m suggesting this latest messy Ibrox break-up is all the fault of those fans. Course it isn’t.

    All I’m saying is that by forever being more desperate to give two fingers to the outside world than they are to point one at the glaring issues within their own walls, they’ve enabled those in charge to screw them over for the umpteenth time.

    Personally, I don’t give a toss whether Dave King and his goons succeed, fail or float forever on a beige cloud of mediocrity.

    I don’t care whether Mark Warburton had a magic hat or exploding underpants.

    But I do care about football fans — no matter who they support and even despite how unpleasantly that support too often manifests itself — having their lifelong devotion used against them as a means of silencing any form of protest.

    At Charlton Athletic, Blackburn Rovers, Coventry City and Blackpool, punters have had enough of this passive-aggression torture.

    They’ve had enough of financing rank-rotten regimes. So they stay away. They ask rival fans to stay away. They use the media to raise awareness of just how bad their exiled, don’t-give-a-damn owners are, not just for their own clubs, but for the game itself.

    But your Rangers fan? He just rings up a phone-in and shouts about history and culture and 54 titles and how WeArraPeepel.

    He creates a caricature of himself and turns a serious problem at an endangered sporting institution into a national joke.

    In truth, I tired long ago of writing about all this, because it got a bit like shouting up to a guy on the tenth floor of a blazing building that he needs to get the hell out and him shouting back:

    “DON’T TELL ME THIS BUILDING’S BURNING! YOU DON’T KNOW ABOUT THIS BUILDING, THIS IS OUR BUILDING, IT’S A HISTORIC BUILDING AND YOU’LL NEVER BE FIT TO BURN IN IT!”

    What can you do about an attitude like that? Knowing even if they escape and the building isn’t too badly damaged, they’ll be too proud to get the smoke detectors checked so the place doesn’t catch fire again?

    They got burned under David Murray, they got burned under Craig Whyte, they got burned under Charles Green and now they’re getting burned under King.

    They refused to see the smoke signals until it was too late when Ally McCoist was in charge and they refused to see them when Warburton was plainly toiling.

    Who knows, maybe they go back to their boozers and tear his signing policies to bits, maybe they go home and kick Albertz the dog up and down the garden, but — and here’s the crux — what those in charge can always rely on is that they’ll always come back and they’ll always stump up their cash and they’ll always, always sing No Surrender so the world knows there’s nothing to see here, please disperse.

    Except the world DOES know something’s wrong, very wrong. The world can see that without the amazing numbers who kept turning up in League Two, League One and The Ramsdens Cup and who now still turn up despite seeing their greatest rivals disappear over the horizon on a golden team bus, Rangers would be nothing. Dead. Gone.

    The money handed over by those ever-loyal hordes allowed Whyte, Green and McCoist to make an almighty rick of getting back up through the divisions and it has allowed King and Warburton to put together a gang of overpaid, overvalued, underachieving mercenaries in the top flight.

    See the link there, Bluenoses? Without your money, your £800,000 at the gate every other Saturday plus pies and programmes and whatever else — even with the THREAT of those fortunes drying up — none of these imposters could have operated.

    If only you knew the power you had. It’s greater than just about any other major club, because if Man U or Liverpool or Arsenal fans stayed away they’d still have their £100million a skull from Sky and they could market themselves up new pretendy fans.

    But you don’t get it. You think strength comes from roaring defiance at everyone outside Govan, from constantly reminding everyone Whit Ye Ur and what you stand for.

    Well all I can say is, how you stand for the mess that club has become is way beyond most of us

    I mean, Barton? Senderos? Hill? Kiernan? Kranjcar? Who’s kidding who? Between them, they’ll have soaked up the first 4,000 admission fees every week.

    That money was meant to get Rangers off their knees, give them a future, not to build a time machine back to the era of idiotic spending that brought them down in the first place.

    Truth is, with a squad full of guys who have no re-sale value and whose best years are long behind them, Rangers have turned back into everything they were under David Murray, except a Poundland version.

    And if anyone is daft enough to argue the toss about that, think on this.

    Moussa Dembele cost Celtic £500,000, has scored 26 goals in 40 and is now valued at £40million, a fortune they can afford to turn down.

    Joe Garner cost £1.8million, has three in 15 and might make the next gaffer £500,000 back if he cuts his losses.

    That’s it. That’s the story, right there. Forget all your boardroom politics and management double-talk, that’s the bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    [/QUOTE=silverhibee;4939972]Do the press/media not have the balls to ask the obvious questions from that statement.
    The muppets on FF don't like this contribution from Bill Leckie:


    Another Jhourno taking a pot shot, this time its us the fans that are the target. He names King in the same breath as Whyte and Green. Not fit for purpose.
    .[/B]
    They don't realise that by not liking it they are only proving him right!

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    The MSM has woken up to Dave King and his dead-eyed scam.

    Will the peepul though?

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    Leckie is bang on the money and "re peepul" would do well to listen to him.

    With Keith Jackson having now broken ranks though, it is starting to get interesting.

    More popcorn required.

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    Couldnt agree more with Bill Leckies comments absolutely spot on IMO. Albertz the dog

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    What will the fat Traynor think of all this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Leckie is bang on the money and "re peepul" would do well to listen to him.

    With Keith Jackson having now broken ranks though, it is starting to get interesting.

    More popcorn required.
    You can be sure Jackson will be saying what he is told to by Jabba.

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    The Clumpany has a pretty funny take on last weeks events........

    https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/20...onfusing-week/

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    What will the fat Traynor think of all this?
    The fat Traynor never thinks, he reacts...usually in the same manner as his target audience.

    Super piece from Leckie btw

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    Amusing piece and highly accurate, unlike any RIFC statement from Je Suis Graham/Traynor/King. I'll be amazed if there is not a Sevco insolvency event before the season finishes. Just the 3m to find, plus Ashley's case and the Hat's pay off. A bare min of 5m.

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    Think its clear both parties wanted a Parting of the ways Bit farcical the way it has unfolded but King has been Ruthless and nodoubt behind closed doors a settlement figure will be reached
    Alex Mceish appeared overly keen on T V talking the Job up and his chances of getting it ( quoting the Bookies have me favourite ) However he maintained he hadnt yet been approached
    Be intetesting to see how that pans out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    Think its clear both parties wanted a Parting of the ways Bit farcical the way it has unfolded but King has been Ruthless and nodoubt behind closed doors a settlement figure will be reached
    Alex Mceish appeared overly keen on T V talking the Job up and his chances of getting it ( quoting the Bookies have me favourite ) However he maintained he hadnt yet been approached
    Be intetesting to see how that pans out
    I will be genuinely surprised if they appoint a big name, or in the event that they do it will be a short term contract to avoid any possible major financial loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    Think its clear both parties wanted a Parting of the ways Bit farcical the way it has unfolded but King has been Ruthless and nodoubt behind closed doors a settlement figure will be reached
    Alex Mceish appeared overly keen on T V talking the Job up and his chances of getting it ( quoting the Bookies have me favourite ) However he maintained he hadnt yet been approached
    Be intetesting to see how that pans out

    He'd get the job a lot quicker hanging around in the club shop - but they don't exist anymore. Wonder what he'll do now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    The fat Traynor never thinks, he reacts...usually in the same manner as his target audience.

    Super piece from Leckie btw
    Will Leckie become the new Chris McLaughlin?

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    That's not the case.

    The 25 point penalty applies if there's a second event within 5 years, irrespective of who the owners of the club are.

    The 5 years expires next week.

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    I thought as they are a new entity (not according to the SFA) with new owners then they would be in the clear (to shaft everyone again). Anyway, in the event of administration, can debt holders force a debt for equity swap? As this would be a neat way for Disco Dave and the Three Bears to take complete control by converting their loans into equity and get rid of the Mike Ashley / minority shareholding problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    The fat Traynor never thinks, he reacts...usually in the same manner as his target audience.

    Super piece from Leckie btw
    Spot on. When the average the hun wakes up to the latest reality they will have forgotten that Traynor and those like him were the ones that ushered in the present scam the huns are once again paying for and were equally culpable for the hype that surrounded their previous saviours.

    As leckie brilliantly says, if the only ones that can't see it is the throwbacks who pay for it then the rest of us should sit back and laugh.

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    The Clumpany has a pretty funny take on last weeks events........

    https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/20...onfusing-week/
    Very good indeed. The hat wouldn't have knowing what day it was last week.



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