Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[CropleyWasGod]

Any ideas why the case would be heard in England?

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[HoboHarry]

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Any ideas why the case would be heard in England?

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Weren't the original searches made in England which began the whole mess?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Weren't the original searches made in England which began the whole mess?

Ahhh that would make sense. Reading the transcript properly.... ....makes that clearer.

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Any ideas why the case would be heard in England?

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What are you getting at here?


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[ancient hibee]

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Any ideas why the case would be heard in England?

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It's a hoax isn't it? Unless the High Court spells fourth differently to the rest of the country.Anyway it's not damages it's indemnifying costs.

[CropleyWasGod]

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What are you getting at here?


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Curiosity.

I'm surprised that the case was heard, though, given (as JJ mentions) the potential implications for CW's trial.

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Curiosity.

Hmmm. If you're curious, maybe the rest of us should sit up and pay attention.


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[CropleyWasGod]

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Hmmm. If you're curious, maybe the rest of us should sit up and pay attention.


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In matters of the law, I'm as scoobied as the scoobiest:))

Although.....am I reading this right? The case was heard in September? Why is it only coming to light now? Does that mean that our media aren't interested?
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[fat freddy]

Just heard on Radio Scotland that Joey Barton has changed his twitter profile and it now has no mention of Sevco on it, I checked and it's is now just a picture of him with a background wallpaper advertising an autobiography about a French speaking thug that stumbled into a library and read a book on philosophy and left an hour later convinced he was a philosopher.
In other news Johnjames is reporting that Barton is on 21k per week, his agent, Willie McKay was offered a settlement of full pay to the end of November if he was prepared to walk away now. The offer was refused. Probably just the first round of talks on a settlement, Sevco will have to do a deal, just wonder what it's going to take to get him to go quietly. £1million?

[Jack Hackett]

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Just heard on Radio Scotland that Joey Barton has changed his twitter profile and it now has no mention of Sevco on it, I checked and it's is now just a picture of him with a background wallpaper advertising an autobiography about a French speaking thug that stumbled into a library and read a book on philosophy and left an hour later convinced he was a philosopher.
In other news Johnjames is reporting that Barton is on 21k per week, his agent, Willie McKay was offered a settlement of full pay to the end of November if he was prepared to walk away now. The offer was refused. Probably just the first round of talks on a settlement, Sevco will have to do a deal, just wonder what it's going to take to get him to go quietly. £1million?

6 weeks wages to walk away...that's up there with the ludicrous offer they made us for Scott Allan.

[magpie1892]

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Just heard on Radio Scotland that Joey Barton has changed his twitter profile and it now has no mention of Sevco on it, I checked and it's is now just a picture of him with a background wallpaper advertising an autobiography about a French speaking thug that stumbled into a library and read a book on philosophy and left an hour later convinced he was a philosopher.
In other news Johnjames is reporting that Barton is on 21k per week, his agent, Willie McKay was offered a settlement of full pay to the end of November if he was prepared to walk away now. The offer was refused. Probably just the first round of talks on a settlement, Sevco will have to do a deal, just wonder what it's going to take to get him to go quietly. £1million?

The offer from the sevco was full pay until end 2016, not end November, and then cancellation of contract.

Barton's on more than £21k a week, I'm told. Plus, as previously mentioned, his suspension by the club does not occlude the fact that he is a member of the first team squad, fit and available for selection, so he gets, as per his contract, the same bonuses as those hun that take to the field.

Repeating myself ad nauseum, but there's not a chance he'll go anywhere for less than seven figures. I think a million up front would do it, but sevco haven't got the cash to pay him off in one go.

That sevco are even opening dialogue on a pay-off confirms the view that they know that they won't be able to dump him for the betting infraction.

His agent is the odious (quite literally - if you meet him, don't get too close) Willie MacKay so good luck with the silly offers, sevco.

Still plenty of enjoyment to be gleaned from this (fantastic) fiasco...

[Bostonhibby]

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The offer from the sevco was full pay until end 2016, not end November, and then cancellation of contract.

Barton's on more than £21k a week, I'm told. Plus, as previously mentioned, his suspension by the club does not occlude the fact that he is a member of the first team squad, fit and available for selection, so he gets, as per his contract, the same bonuses as those hun that take to the field.

Repeating myself ad nauseum, but there's not a chance he'll go anywhere for less than seven figures. I think a million up front would do it, but sevco haven't got the cash to pay him off in one go.

That sevco are even opening dialogue on a pay-off cofirms the view that they know that they won't be able to dump him for the betting infraction.

His agent is the odious (quite literally - if you meet him, don't get too close) Willie MacKay so good luck with the silly offers, sevco.

Still plenty of enjoyment to be gleaned from this (fantastic) fiasco...

I love it when you go all ad nauseam about how Joey is going to blow a big hole in Sevco's budget

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[greenginger]

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-by-court.html

Sun running the story this morning.

[CropleyWasGod]

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http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-by-court.html

Sun running the story this morning.

That ties in with JJ's claim that he only learned of it yesterday.

[CyberSauzee]

Interesting if true.

https://johnjamessite.com/2016/10/20...cottish-water/

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[CropleyWasGod]

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Interesting if true.

https://johnjamessite.com/2016/10/20...cottish-water/

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Brilliant story:)

No idea if it's true, but.... £95k per month for water? I don't swim in those pools... can anyone shed any sparkle on whether that's likely to be pure....or pure piss?

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[Keith_M]

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Interesting if true.

https://johnjamessite.com/2016/10/20...cottish-water/

A few pulling the plug puns to follow...

Hmmm, 95k per month water bills? Doesn't sound very likely

[WhileTheChief..]

^^ No idea how accuarate these figures are but when I ran a business the water rates that I paid were nothing to do with how much water we used, a lot of businesses wouldn't even have a water meter.

It was do with the size of the the footprint of the business. I remember moaning like hell to SW that I was paying a bill for basically collecting extra rain water and they said yup, that's exactly it!

Ibrox and surrounding car park etc is a pretty big area

That was about 12 years ago mind so things could have changed.

[WoreTheGreen]

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Hmmm, 95k per month water bills? Doesn't sound very likely

Aye but holy water is a good bit dearer

[bingo70]

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^^ No idea how accuarate these figures are but when I ran a business the water rates that I paid were nothing to do with how much water we used, a lot of businesses wouldn't even have a water meter.

It was do with the size of the the footprint of the business. I remember moaning like hell to SW that I was paying a bill for basically collecting extra rain water and they said yup, that's exactly it!

Ibrox and surrounding car park etc is a pretty big area

That was about 12 years ago mind so things could have changed.

Water charges are based on the rateable value of a property if there's no meter there. Drainage as a whole is also charged this way, it's pretty simplistic but I suppose it's similar to council tax bandings and how domestic water is billed via council tax charges.

I'd doubt that the story is true as Scottish Water don't bill for business water, it could be business stream but I think if there was anything in the story they'd have got that part right and knowing how the credit control function works there I am beyond certain it wouldn't have got to that stage.

[hibee_nation]

Load of pish business stream meter readers would check at least quarterly. If there was a problem it would be flagged up immediately. All businesses have meters fitted nowadays

[Billy Whizz]

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Water charges are based on the rateable value of a property if there's no meter there. Drainage as a whole is also charged this way, it's pretty simplistic but I suppose it's similar to council tax bandings and how domestic water is billed via council tax charges.

I'd doubt that the story is true as Scottish Water don't bill for business water, it could be business stream but I think if there was anything in the story they'd have got that part right and knowing how the credit control function works there I am beyond certain it wouldn't have got to that stage.

I used to have a business in a shopping centre. We paid the centre for our water, and Business Stream monthly DD, for pipes etc into the centre. If you didn't pay DD, they would get credit companies to chase you up, but they couldn't cut you off. Wonder if TRFC haven't paid for a bit

[Moulin Yarns]

A saint Johnstone fan told me th water bill story today.

[Jack]

All that water but no soap!

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Never rains but it pours for the poor Sevconians .......

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/10/21...ers-potential/

[Keith_M]

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^^ No idea how accuarate these figures are but when I ran a business the water rates that I paid were nothing to do with how much water we used, a lot of businesses wouldn't even have a water meter.

It was do with the size of the the footprint of the business. I remember moaning like hell to SW that I was paying a bill for basically collecting extra rain water and they said yup, that's exactly it!

Ibrox and surrounding car park etc is a pretty big area

That was about 12 years ago mind so things could have changed.

It appears there are two options here;

1) T'Rangers DO have a meter, which they bypassed by stealing from a Church... but as they run a football club and not a chain of swimming pools then the figure of 95k is surely an exaggeration, bringing into doubt JJ's story.

2) T'Rangers bill is calculated in the manner you mentioned, meaning JJ's meter story is completely made up.





p.s. No Apropos were harmed or misused in any way in coming to my conclusions.

p.p.s What actually is the plural of Apropos?

[Bostonhibby]

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Never rains but it pours for the poor Sevconians .......

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/10/21...ers-potential/

Probably angling for a warm winter away from Glasgow whilst collecting the cash Joey style.

The club that keeps on giving.

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[CentreLine]

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Never rains but it pours for the poor Sevconians .......

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/10/21...ers-potential/

Bit of a convenient announcement just before the bigot fest T weekend. I'd expect he'll feature on Sunday. Won't be watching but will be interested.

[The Green Goblin]

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Hmmm, 95k per month water bills? Doesn't sound very likely

They have to wash the stadium after 30000 soap dodgers gave been piling about in it two or three times a month, so...

[CapitalGreen]

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Bit of a convenient announcement just before the bigot fest T weekend. I'd expect he'll feature on Sunday. Won't be watching but will be interested.

He got hooked at half time last time as he was so far off the pace and was going to get himself sent off. Celtic fans will be praying he features.