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  • Opposed - and will walk away from Scottish professional football

    537 52.85%

  • Opposed - but will continue to support the game.

    454 44.69%

  • In favour.

    25 2.46%
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  1. 29-01-2016 10:02 AM #34081
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    Dewar now referring to criminal indictment against Charles Green, notes they allege a conspiracy pre-dating the purchase of RFC assets


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  2. 29-01-2016 10:03 AM #34082
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    Dewar argues that previous judge misunderstood nature of conspiracy charges against Green


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  3. 29-01-2016 10:03 AM #34083
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    Dewar says previous judge "showed no appreciation" that future jury could convict Green of criminal acts but acquit him of conspiracy


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  4. 29-01-2016 10:03 AM #34084
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    Dewar says Green bought " the business and assets of the Rangers entity" then acted on behalf of, and for the benefit of the shareholders


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  5. 29-01-2016 10:04 AM #34085
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    Dewar says he has spoken to Charles Green and there may be a 'third indictment" in the criminal trial.


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  6. 29-01-2016 10:14 AM #34086
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    Dewar says Green criminal trial is "some way off."


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  7. 29-01-2016 10:14 AM #34087
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    Judge asks Dewar "why is it so important that Rangers football club is Sevco Scotland rather than an institution going back 100 years?"


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  8. 29-01-2016 10:14 AM #34088
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    Dewar says Green is only facing charges through his role as chief executive of Rangers football club


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  9. 29-01-2016 10:15 AM #34089
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    Judge says to Dewar "that's not an answer to my question"


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  10. 29-01-2016 10:15 AM #34090
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    Dewar replies that Green was chairman of Sevco Scotland before being CEO of "the entity now known as Rangers Football club"


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  11. 29-01-2016 10:16 AM #34091
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    Dewar says if court accepts RFC is Sevco Scotland Green was in "continuous employment" from June 2012


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  12. 29-01-2016 10:16 AM #34092
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    Dewar argues the club only exists legally "in some amorphous way" and only the "corporate entity" matters to the court


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  13. 29-01-2016 10:19 AM #34093
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    On a side note, if you had picked the word "entity" for your court drinking game you would be very drunk by now

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  14. 29-01-2016 10:27 AM #34094
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    One unusual factor in today's case is that Lord Doherty "sealed" his original judgment so we don't know the grounds of his decision


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    So, along with the infamous '5 way agreement', the Hun are involved in yet another 'Secret/private arrangement' - wonder if there's any other football club in the world with similar history (or need) ??
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  15. 29-01-2016 10:30 AM #34095
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    Moving into issues covered by reporting restrictions.


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  16. 29-01-2016 10:31 AM #34096
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    So, along with the infamous '5 way agreement', the Hun are involved in yet another 'Secret/private arrangement' - wonder if there's any other football club in the world with similar history (or need) ??
    That is more to do with Greens right to a fair trial in the upcoming fraud case.


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  17. 29-01-2016 10:38 AM #34097
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Dewar says if court accepts RFC is Sevco Scotland Green was in "continuous employment" from June 2012


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    How could they consider anything else ?

    They have the same Company Number. Also Sevco changed its name to The Rangers Football Club in July 2012. So June or July what's the difference.
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  18. 29-01-2016 10:45 AM #34098
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    https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordp...ew-club-blues/


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  19. 29-01-2016 10:46 AM #34099
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    How could they consider anything else ?

    They have the same Company Number. Also Sevco changed its name to The Rangers Football Club in July 2012. So June or July what's the difference.
    Think some of the charges relate to the purchase of the assets so Green has to prove he was director of Sevco Scotland at the time


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  20. 29-01-2016 10:47 AM #34100
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    Dewar now moving on to Appeal court judgment in Andy Coulson case


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  21. 29-01-2016 10:48 AM #34101
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    Judge asks if a hypothetical was embezzling funds from a company would that be seen as having occurred "in the course of his duties"?


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    Dewar says his case is very different as Green was acting "in the interests of the company" and not just for personal gain


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    Blogger and columnist Angela Haggerty sacked by the Herald for supporting Spiers?

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  24. 29-01-2016 10:54 AM #34104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Think some of the charges relate to the purchase of the assets so Green has to prove he was director of Sevco Scotland at the time


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    Green has a clause in his severance agreement saying the club will pay his legal bills for actions related to his time as "chief executive of Rangers Football Club". The New Huns are trying to argue this doesn't apply to his time as Chief Exec of the company when it was called Sevco Scotland but only to the time after it changed its name.
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    Dewar says again Green would "never have been in this position if he had never been CEO of the two entities."


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    Much shaking of heads on the Rangers side of the court at that last comment.


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    Dewar says a legal idemnity would be pointless unless it also covered criminal charges.


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    Dewar said that when agreement signed "it was known that legal proceedings were likely" asks court "what was in the mind of the parties"?


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    Dewar says there is more to running a football club than putting a team on a pitch "it's a multi-million pound business"


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    "Football is a business unlike any other" Dewar says "but still needs a successful corporate entity" to raise funds etc,


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