Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Jonnyboy]

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Stuart Regan on Radio Scotland saying the he didn't say that Scottish Football was facing armageddon, only that "some might say Scottish football is facing armageddon". So I can be getting on a plane and remark "some might say there's a bomb on board", and as I'm taken away, I'll express my shock as "I didn't say there was a bomb on board!". The magical "some might say" clause - must work in a similar fashion to the Warburton "respectfully..." clause.

Some might say Regan is a dick .............. nah, most would say Regan is a dick

[Eyrie]

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Some might say Regan is a dick .............. nah, most would say Regan is a dick

But they'd all say it respectfully.

[Jonnyboy]

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But they'd all say it respectfully.

[Springbank]

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But they'd all say it respectfully.

My actual favourite is "nobody is talking about Hibs"

[hibs0666]

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The thing I like about him is that in his dealings with the the rangers he is basically behaving in the same way as they have for decades, but he is a very big fish in their dirty pool, he is at least transparent in what he is doing, not pretending to be a paragon of virtue when he's not. He seems to pay his way as well so he's already ahead of two Scottish teams and the people that run them.

Whatever his motives, he is just the guy to flush out the murky goings on at the SFA and the now defunct Glasgow rangers at the critical stages that seen King emerge as fit and proper and also perhaps cast some light in the deal that sneaked the rangers back in the way they did, titles intact, so he might even be indirectly doing the rest of us a favour revealing that which we don't have the resources to pursue.

There is nothing likable about Ashley, and we will rue his on-going involvement in Scottish football for years to come.

[jacomo]

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There is nothing likable about Ashley, and we will rue his on-going involvement in Scottish football for years to come.

Why?

I don't rue his involvement in Scottish football. I'd be more worried if he actually was a Rangers fan, because with that much money he could turn them into a force again. As it is, that doesn't seem likely.

Also, he might be a Scrooge towards his employees, but as far as I know he doesn't break the law and he does pay taxes. So far, so preferable to the shower of ****bags who have been involved with that club before him.

[Bostonhibby]

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There is nothing likable about Ashley, and we will rue his on-going involvement in Scottish football for years to come.

I don't disagree with you generally but for this one (which I say with a bit of irony) if he wasn't where he is, doing what he's doing for whatever motives the rest of us would be indignantly farting against the wind whilst the new boys and King would be effortlessly gliding along doing pretty much the same as before (are they not now financially?) and the authorities would be turning a blind eye as before at best, and at worst would be helping them along. Potentially squeaky bum time for the blazers I feel, and long overdue.

[Mr White]

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Why?

I don't rue his involvement in Scottish football. I'd be more worried if he actually was a Rangers fan, because with that much money he could turn them into a force again. As it is, that doesn't seem likely.

Also, he might be a Scrooge towards his employees, but as far as I know he doesn't break the law and he does pay taxes. So far, so preferable to the shower of ****bags who have been involved with that club before him.

Of all the key players in rangers and then sevcos recent history he's one of the few that hasn't tried to shaft hmrc. Puzzled as to how rangers self inflicted meltdown, and/or mash's involvement is going to damage our game for years though. Would it have been better if they'd been allowed to carry on cheating 666?

[Cropley10]

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There is nothing likable about Ashley, and we will rue his on-going involvement in Scottish football for years to come.

How?

I suppose if he'd not loaned them cash they'd be even worse off, but he's got them spending big bucks on lawyers and not players. You agree that's a good thing right? Or would you rather The Rangers get to play at being one half of the Old Firm again, as its for the good of the game

[Deansy]

The majority of us want the end-result of all this 'court-action/money problems' concerning the Hun, is to see (hopefully) the total and utter implosion of them, along with their partners-in-grime at the GFA. Ashley's reasons/aims/hopes for doing what he's doing may be different from ours but as 'Ozyhibby' says -

'one club is playing by different rules and the governing body is helping them'

So anything and anyone that damages either of these two disgusting 'entities' is fine by me !

[Dashing Bob S]

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The majority of us want the end-result of all this 'court-action/money problems' concerning the Hun, is to see (hopefully) the total and utter implosion of them, along with their partners-in-grime at the GFA. Ashley's reasons for doing what he's doing may be different from ours but as 'Ozyhibby' says -

'one club is playing by different rules and the governing body is helping them'

So anything and anyone that damages either of these two disgusting 'entities' is fine by me !

When two loathsome forces collide, all the civilised chap can do is sit back and enjoy the spectacle, hoping for damage maximisation.

[Jack]

As far as Sports Direct is concerned I've known a few folk that have worked / are working there. None had any particular grips other than the odd **** manager. Once they become managers the bonuses are pretty spectacular. Having said that many managers leave just after bonus time!

I have also known people who have worked for the government, at all levels, Standard Life and other insurance companies, the RBS and other banks who have all had a lot worse to say about their employer.

For Scottish football though I think he may be a double edged sword, maybe even more edges than that!

I hope, if what has been suggested regarding King is true, then he doesn't go after Scottish football with the same fervour and there's something left at the end of it to take the game forward in a sustainable way.

[Spike Mandela]

Mike Ashley and Dave King desrve each other and we should be glad they have nothing to do with our club.

The only concern we should have as bystanders to this farce is that we don't watch their odious club being giving unfair advantage and rules bent by our gutless, arse covering authorities at the expense of ourselves and others.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Mike Ashley and Dave King desrve each other and we should be glad they have nothing to do with our club.

The only concern we should have as bystanders to this farce is that we don't watch their odious club being giving unfair advantage and rules bent by our gutless, arse covering authorities at the expense of ourselves and others.

The one good thing about Ashley getting involved with these vile creatures is everything is coming out in the wash, and the authorities will find it very difficult to brush things under the carpet without everyone being able to scrutinise it.

[FranckSuzy]

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As far as Sports Direct is concerned I've known a few folk that have worked / are working there. None had any particular grips other than the odd **** manager. Once they become managers the bonuses are pretty spectacular. Having said that many managers leave just after bonus time!

I have also known people who have worked for the government, at all levels, Standard Life and other insurance companies, the RBS and other banks who have all had a lot worse to say about their employer.

For Scottish football though I think he may be a double edged sword, maybe even more edges than that!

I hope, if what has been suggested regarding King is true, then he doesn't go after Scottish football with the same fervour and there's something left at the end of it to take the game forward in a sustainable way.

Here

"Temporary workers at Sports Direct, the booming retail chain controlled by the billionaire Mike Ashley, are receiving effective hourly rates of pay below the minimum wage, an investigation by the Guardian can reveal.

Warehouse staff at the group, which is controlled by Britain’s 22nd richest man, are required to go through searches at the end of each shift, for which their time is unpaid, while they also suffer harsh deductions from their wage packets for clocking in for a shift just one minute late.

The practices contribute to many staff being paid an effective rate of about £6.50 an hour against the statutory rate of £6.70 – potentially saving the FTSE 100 firm millions of pounds a year at the expense of some of the poorest workers in the UK". Nice.

[greenginger]

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Action starting at the Courts, King told to dispose of his coffee !

[Moulin Yarns]

James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman 1m1 minute ago Judge to SD counsel "Do you think the court should grant an injunction to stop people commenting on information in the public domain"

Judge 'is your client interested in having a relationship with Mr King or do you just want to grind him into the dust?"

Judge brings up issue of SD "bobble hats" with f*** King on them. "How does that help"

[Hibby70]

think its fair to say King is walking away from court today.

[Moulin Yarns]

James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman 8s9 seconds ago SD counsel asks for part of hearing to be heard in private to preserve confidentiality

[greenginger]

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James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman 1m1 minute ago Judge to SD counsel "Do you think the court should grant an injunction to stop people commenting on information in the public domain"

Judge 'is your client interested in having a relationship with Mr King or do you just want to grind him into the dust?"

Judge brings up issue of SD "bobble hats" with f*** King on them. "How does that help"

I think it would be good if the judge trashes Sports Direct's case and awards costs against them.

Might make Big Mike turn really nasty !

[Jim44]

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https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman?lang=en

Action starting at the Courts, King told to dispose of his coffee !

Some of the tweets give the impression that the judge is anti SD/MA and pro DK.

[Bostonhibby]

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think its fair to say King is walking away from court today.

Could be the case if the court decides that however the info got into the public domain it's there now. Who'd have thought someone associated with the rangers could do something contrary to the law and for there to be little or no consequences

[Treadstone]

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Some of the tweets give the impression that the judge is anti SD/MA and pro DK.

Dolemans crowdfunding plea was principally being shared on Celtic minded social media.
Although it's fair to say his tweets on actual proceedings are pretty straight down the line.

[Jim44]

It's a win win for us popcorn munchers ........... Ashley taken to the cleaners or King further blackened .......... take your pick.

[Ozyhibby]

Judge muses that disclosure of documents at general meetings of Rangers shareholders may not be a breach of the undertaking.


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[Ozyhibby]

William McCormack for the defence says documents under discussion are already "all over the press"


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[Moulin Yarns]

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Could be the case if the court decides that however the info got into the public domain it's there now. Who'd have thought someone associated with the rangers could do something contrary to the law and for there to be little or no consequences

William McCormack for the defence says documents under discussion are already "all over the press"

[Ozyhibby]

Judge rises to allow press to consider whether to sign document to be bound by confidentiality on certain case documents.


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[Ozyhibby]

Assembled media and public have signed a confidentiality undertaking on reference to certain documents in court.


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[Jack]

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Here

"Temporary workers at Sports Direct, the booming retail chain controlled by the billionaire Mike Ashley, are receiving effective hourly rates of pay below the minimum wage, an investigation by the Guardian can reveal.

Warehouse staff at the group, which is controlled by Britain’s 22nd richest man, are required to go through searches at the end of each shift, for which their time is unpaid, while they also suffer harsh deductions from their wage packets for clocking in for a shift just one minute late.

The practices contribute to many staff being paid an effective rate of about £6.50 an hour against the statutory rate of £6.70 – potentially saving the FTSE 100 firm millions of pounds a year at the expense of some of the poorest workers in the UK". Nice.

Oh, I'm not saying its the best place to work, I've read these reports and watched the TV documentary. I think in comparison to so called exemplar employers, like the government used to claim it was , its far from being the worst. It doesn't make it OK though.