Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Treadstone]

Mitchell seems to know what the game needs now he is outside of it. When he was part of it he done nothing positive.
He tries to airbrush his gaffes as speaking his mind. His Partick Thistle smoking dope put down was particularly insulting and wrong.

[Ozyhibby]

Isn't he the guy who turned down £40m from Sky in favour of Setanta?


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[grunt]

Here's a tweet from him after he appeared on Sportsound
"Rich" is Richard Wilson from the BBC who appeared with him

Rich, Fan demographic splits into a big % with only double digit IQ. Of the remainder big % totally blinded by hatred. How can u do it?

[monarch]

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Warburton is having (another) pop at Stubbs.

http://m.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/14..._Ibrox_budget/

This is the revisiting of old news.It looks like the hand of Level 5 or whoever their current PR people are. The Glasgow Herald/Evening Times group print what they're told. Ra people have to have their attention turned away from the plethora of court cases that are currently exploding around them.

[high bee]

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It is early on Monday morning but already we have a contender for arrogant jerk of the week. Here is Roger Mitchell who is apparently former SPL Chief Executive, on the Rangers saga. Some very enlightening thoughts on just what is important in Scottish football from a former chief.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/hate-...-title-comment

Some choice comments:

Celtic fan hammering home how important the old firm are. His arrogance is summed up by the criticising if a smaller club celebrating a cup win.

As long as we've got folk in the Scottish football authorities begrudging anyone but the old firm winning then the game will never get better.

Sadly this will never change.

Can't believe he is trying to attribute the failure of the national team to the lack of Sevco in the premiership.

[Treadstone]

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Here's a tweet from him after he appeared on Sportsound
"Rich" is Richard Wilson from the BBC who appeared with him

Says it all.

[lapsedhibee]

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Isn't he the guy who turned down £40m from Sky?

That's him

[GreenLake]

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It is early on Monday morning but already we have a contender for arrogant jerk of the week. Here is Roger Mitchell who is apparently former SPL Chief Executive, on the Rangers saga. Some very enlightening thoughts on just what is important in Scottish football from a former chief.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/hate-...-title-comment

Some choice comments:

Never heard of him. Scottish football won't change for the better with anyone like him in an executive position.

[brog]

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Yeah, but Warburton just slavers nonsense and is never pulled up for it.

Another quote from Warby,

" if you ask about budgets , we had a smaller budget at Brentford and finished 5th. "

Er, no, Brentford's last accounts show a player's budget of £ 9.10 million.

And he's meant to be a City Wizz Kid !

As you say, top finance man & he can't see how AS would know the difference in budgets! Well the accounts is a decent place to start but that's probably too much of a stretch for a City genius. Agree with others though, a non story to fill pages when there's no games.

[Ozyhibby]

More lawyers to pay.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...liday-pay.html


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[Ozyhibby]

Interesting that Sevco were allowed to sign players during the summer when they were in clear remuneration default?

Delivery of Contracts of Service
22. A Club must deliver the executed originals of all Contracts of Service andamendments and/or extensions to Contracts of Service and all other agreementsproviding for payment, other than for reimbursement of expenses actuallyincurred, between that Club and Player, to the Secretary, within fourteen days ofsuch Contract of Service or other agreement being entered into, amended and/or,as the case may be, extended.
Default in Player and Football Manager/Coaching Staff Remuneration
E17 Except in circumstances where there is a bona fide dispute as to liability forpayment by the Club, where the Club is entitled to deduct or otherwise withholdpayment of a sum otherwise due or where the Club takes, suffers or is subject to anInsolvency Event, any Club which shall fail to pay any sum due by it to a Playerunder and in terms of that Player’s Contract of Service and/or any sum due by itunder a contract of employment to any Official engaged in football managementand/or football coaching (a “Remuneration Default”) shall be in breach of theseRules.
E18 Any Club which suffers or is subject to a Remuneration Default shall within 2 daysof such default notify the Secretary in writing of any such default with details of theamount(s) and Player(s) and/or Official(s) concerned and if it fails to so notify theSecretary it shall be in breach of these Rules.
E19 Any Club which commits a Remuneration Default shall not, except with the consentof the Board, be entitled or permitted to Register any Professional Player with theLeague and the League shall not register such a Player until the Board is satisfiedthat such Remuneration Default shall no longer continue or subsist.


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[AndyM_1875]

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Celtic fan hammering home how important the old firm are. His arrogance is summed up by the criticising if a smaller club celebrating a cup win.

As long as we've got folk in the Scottish football authorities begrudging anyone but the old firm winning then the game will never get better.

Sadly this will never change.

Can't believe he is trying to attribute the failure of the national team to the lack of Sevco in the premiership.

Of course. But that mindset from Mitchell will have a lot of sympathy in the boardroom at Parkhead. All that "We stand alone" stuff was garbage to placate the fans who can drone on like broken records about Rangers/Sevco but the reality is that Peter Lawell has been downsizing and fire fighting financially for the last 3 years plugging an annual £10m hole in his accounts by selling his best players and now he's left with Efe Ambrose.

Make no mistake about it Celtic's financial health for next year (depends on is possibly too strong a word) will be a lot brighter with 4 games against Rangers on the card. If Rangers go up, Lawell is looking at two home fixtures where he can charge £50+ per ticket, increase ST prices, charge £1000 a plate hospitality, attract a ****load more in sponsorship and sell out his stadium. He will also get income from TV, and media rights for a fixture that will be marketed to the maximum as brand Old Firm whether we like it or not.
He won't get any of that playing Partick Thistle.

[oneone73]

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Of course. But that mindset from Mitchell will have a lot of sympathy in the boardroom at Parkhead. All that "We stand alone" stuff was garbage to placate the fans who can drone on like broken records about Rangers/Sevco but the reality is that Peter Lawell has been downsizing and fire fighting financially for the last 3 years plugging an annual £10m hole in his accounts by selling his best players and now he's left with Efe Ambrose.

Make no mistake about it Celtic's financial health for next year (depends on is possibly too strong a word) will be a lot brighter with 4 games against Rangers on the card. If Rangers go up, Lawell is looking at two home fixtures where he can charge £50+ per ticket, increase ST prices, charge £1000 a plate hospitality, attract a ****load more in sponsorship and sell out his stadium. He will also get income from TV, and media rights for a fixture that will be marketed to the maximum as brand Old Firm whether we like it or not.
He won't get any of that playing Partick Thistle.

It might only be one home game. Who's to say that Sevco, if they scrape past team 11 in the play-offs, would make top 6?

[southsider]

Clarke got himself lifted on Saturday night for a run-in with the cops at Queen Street station. May be in real bother and his brother, who was arrested with him, apparently had a knife. The big L ?

[Smartie]

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Clarke got himself lifted on Saturday night for a run-in with the cops at Queen Street station. May be in real bother and his brother, who was arrested with him, apparently had a knife. The big L ?

He's Sandy Clark's son isn't he?

Not a proud day for him, his sons getting into bother like that.

[Hibee87]

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Clarke got himself lifted on Saturday night for a run-in with the cops at Queen Street station. May be in real bother and his brother, who was arrested with him, apparently had a knife. The big L ?

Where did you see this? I suppose it wont be widely reported like such an incident of being in a mcdonalds when others are throwing muffins, now thats headline news. Arrested with an accomplice with a knife? meh, wee article in the botttom corner of the paper.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Of course. But that mindset from Mitchell will have a lot of sympathy in the boardroom at Parkhead. All that "We stand alone" stuff was garbage to placate the fans who can drone on like broken records about Rangers/Sevco but the reality is that Peter Lawell has been downsizing and fire fighting financially for the last 3 years plugging an annual £10m hole in his accounts by selling his best players and now he's left with Efe Ambrose.

Make no mistake about it Celtic's financial health for next year (depends on is possibly too strong a word) will be a lot brighter with 4 games against Rangers on the card. If Rangers go up, Lawell is looking at two home fixtures where he can charge £50+ per ticket, increase ST prices, charge £1000 a plate hospitality, attract a ****load more in sponsorship and sell out his stadium. He will also get income from TV, and media rights for a fixture that will be marketed to the maximum as brand Old Firm whether we like it or not.
He won't get any of that playing Partick Thistle.

Which is why I think it would ultimately be better for Scottish football as a whole if the New Huns keep making a total **** of things for as long as possible. Looking back to the "golden eras" of Scottish football, the 50s and the 80s (albeit in the latter case not for us :( ), what they have in common is that one half of the OF was going through a period of serious weakness. Celtc in the 50s, the Old Huns in the 80s.

As well as a more level playing field in Scotland, more of the best Scottish talent is going to play at a higher standard in England and more of our clubs are relying on youth. Both of these things will benefit the national side in the longer term.

[Treadstone]

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Make no mistake about it Celtic's financial health for next year (depends on is possibly too strong a word) will be a lot brighter with 4 games against Rangers on the card. If Rangers go up, Lawell is looking at two home fixtures where he can charge £50+ per ticket, increase ST prices, charge £1000 a plate hospitality, attract a ****load more in sponsorship and sell out his stadium. He will also get income from TV, and media rights for a fixture that will be marketed to the maximum as brand Old Firm whether we like it or not.
He won't get any of that playing Partick Thistle.

£1000 a plate hospitality ? I find that very hard to believe.

[greenginger]

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Of course. But that mindset from Mitchell will have a lot of sympathy in the boardroom at Parkhead. All that "We stand alone" stuff was garbage to placate the fans who can drone on like broken records about Rangers/Sevco but the reality is that Peter Lawell has been downsizing and fire fighting financially for the last 3 years plugging an annual £10m hole in his accounts by selling his best players and now he's left with Efe Ambrose.

Make no mistake about it Celtic's financial health for next year (depends on is possibly too strong a word) will be a lot brighter with 4 games against Rangers on the card. If Rangers go up, Lawell is looking at two home fixtures where he can charge £50+ per ticket, increase ST prices, charge £1000 a plate hospitality, attract a ****load more in sponsorship and sell out his stadium. He will also get income from TV, and media rights for a fixture that will be marketed to the maximum as brand Old Firm whether we like it or not.
He won't get any of that playing Partick Thistle.

Old Firm match day income is peanuts compared to the Champions League money that is a virtual cert. for Celtic as long as Rangers continue to implode.

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[gorgie greens]

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£1000 a plate hospitality ? I find that very hard to believe.

Just checked Arsenal v Man City and that is £900 a pop, but night in day compared to the poisonous 2

[Jim44]

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Where did you see this? I suppose it wont be widely reported like such an incident of being in a mcdonalds when others are throwing muffins, now thats headline news. Arrested with an accomplice with a knife? meh, wee article in the botttom corner of the paper.

This was talked about on this thread yesterday, so it's clearly common knowledge.

[gorgie greens]

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Just checked Arsenal v Man City and that is £900 a pop, but night in day compared to the poisonous 2

No comparison,Aguero,Toyre,DeBryne, Sanchez, or Waghorn ,Wilson,?

[Treadstone]

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Just checked Arsenal v Man City and that is £900 a pop, but night in day compared to the poisonous 2

That was the first one I looked at too. Night and day hardly describes the difference. Couldn't see any possible financial justification where the ugly sisters could charge a bag of sand for their matchday experience.

[greenginger]

johnJames explaining some of the proposals for the forthcoming AGM.


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Can't see Ashley sitting back and letting this happen. Court injunction being drafted . More legal bills Love it !

[AndyM_1875]

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Which is why I think it would ultimately be better for Scottish football as a whole if the New Huns keep making a total **** of things for as long as possible. Looking back to the "golden eras" of Scottish football, the 50s and the 80s (albeit in the latter case not for us :( ), what they have in common is that one half of the OF was going through a period of serious weakness. Celtc in the 50s, the Old Huns in the 80s.

As well as a more level playing field in Scotland, more of the best Scottish talent is going to play at a higher standard in England and more of our clubs are relying on youth. Both of these things will benefit the national side in the longer term.

I'd be quite happy if the two of them left and took all their baggage with them. I wouldn't miss them.

[LeithSqualk]

What do we have to look forward too this week? Hopefully hear about Green's case, but is there anything else to look forward too

[jacomo]

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I sure hope Dave King doesn't do walking away.

Mind you, it's The Rangers. History (ha!) suggests that when one dodgy character is forced out, another will take their place.

[greenginger]

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What do we have to look forward too this week? Hopefully hear about Green's case, but is there anything else to look forward too

Warburton being appointed manager of Fulham or QPR.

[Treadstone]

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Warburton being appointed manager of Fulham or QPR.

If he got offered either job he would bite their hands off. He could cite the uncertainty at the club and Sevco would look for the compensation in used tenners in a sports direct hold-all.