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  • Opposed - but will continue to support the game.

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    "He described Rangers fans as "a tribe", adding: "What the rest of the world will never understand unless they experience it first hand is that Rangers Football Club is a religion, in itself, built on centuries of religious bigotry."
    The former director also accused Police Scotland of being "an establishment institution which itself is deeply rooted and immersed in Rangers Football Club's history for well over 140 years".
    Mr Ahmad said: "I firmly believe Police Scotland have their own agenda and are deeply emotionally connected to Rangers Football Club. In my view Police Scotland have a clear conflict of interest.""


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    Mr Ahmad spoke out after*four other men*were charged over the deal.

    He accused police of being "emotionally connected" to Rangers and described the club as "a religion built on religious bigotry". He also said he would not get a fair trial anywhere in Scotland.


    Hard to argue with that

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    ....and as a little bit background noise to the above.


    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...national_game/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatHead View Post
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    "He described Rangers fans as "a tribe", adding: "What the rest of the world will never understand unless they experience it first hand is that Rangers Football Club is a religion, in itself, built on centuries of religious bigotry."
    The former director also accused Police Scotland of being "an establishment institution which itself is deeply rooted and immersed in Rangers Football Club's history for well over 140 years".
    Mr Ahmad said: "I firmly believe Police Scotland have their own agenda and are deeply emotionally connected to Rangers Football Club. In my view Police Scotland have a clear conflict of interest.""
    The ****** will doubtless out him as a Catholic conspirator first thing in the morning then

    Only getting into the media what the rest of us have known for decades. Sure we could find 12 good men and true to form a jury to try him on the East side of Edinburgh.

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    Spokesman for Police Scotland said "No surr .... erm comment".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    ....and as a little bit background noise to the above.


    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...national_game/
    UEFA being 'miles ahead' of the SFA on tackling racism is pretty damning. UEFA is the kind of organisation that issues 5k fines for racist chanting and 30k fines for wearing pants with an unauthorised logo.

    Having said that, Ajax fans are plain weird. They proclaim themselves as Jews even though only a tiny number of them are Jewish. The banner was probably just a tactless attempt at a wind up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomoseven View Post
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    UEFA being 'miles ahead' of the SFA on tackling racism is pretty damning. UEFA is the kind of organisation that issues 5k fines for racist chanting and 30k fines for wearing pants with an unauthorised logo.
    It also means the SFA sanction the breaking of the Scottish Parliaments' (stupid) laws against sectarian language/chants/hats/macaroon bars/spearmint chewing gum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatHead View Post
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    "He described Rangers fans as "a tribe", adding: "What the rest of the world will never understand unless they experience it first hand is that Rangers Football Club is a religion, in itself, built on centuries of religious bigotry."
    The former director also accused Police Scotland of being "an establishment institution which itself is deeply rooted and immersed in Rangers Football Club's history for well over 140 years".
    Mr Ahmad said: "I firmly believe Police Scotland have their own agenda and are deeply emotionally connected to Rangers Football Club. In my view Police Scotland have a clear conflict of interest.""
    What an incredibly accurate description of both Der Hun and their unofficial stormtroopers in police Scotland. OK not all of them but every one that I encountered on duty at Ibrox and a fair amount elsewhere. Also how come they have managed to arrest pretty much everyone who has owned them since David Murray, but he has managed to wriggle out of any police investigation or indeed media investigation/statements at all. Maybe the media should have been included in Ahmad's list of those who are wrapped up in The Rangers

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.a.m View Post
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    ....and as a little bit background noise to the above.


    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...national_game/
    The Rangers and their predecessor really are and were nasty blots on Scottish society. As for the SFA....what a flock of ostriches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomoseven View Post
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    Having said that, Ajax fans are plain weird. They proclaim themselves as Jews even though only a tiny number of them are Jewish.
    You mean they are like Tottenham fans?

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    From BBC

    "Rangers boss Mark Warburton will not go overboard in the January transfer window for fear of upsetting a successful dressing room. (Various)"

    Roughly translated means we still won't have any money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Something I've just seen for the first time "Sheik Imran Ahmad also known as Imran Ahmad" Anyone know more about the sheik bit?
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Something I've just seen for the first time "Sheik Imran Ahmad also known as Imran Ahmad" Anyone know more about the sheik bit?
    I think sheik means he is well dressed, ya ken, nice bit o burberry and some pure class gold sovy rings man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    When they are found guilty of these charges surely a long prison sentence awaits them?
    Hope they get consecutive jail sentences .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKHIBEE View Post
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    When they are found guilty of these charges surely a long prison sentence awaits them?
    Hope they get consecutive jail sentences .
    When?

    Firstly, we don't know what the specific charges are.

    Secondly, conspiracy is notoriously difficult to prove. In this situation, Ahmed may be the key. He's alluded to co-operating with the police. If he does, that will help the case.

    However, long sentences? It's doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    When?

    Firstly, we don't know what the specific charges are.

    Secondly, conspiracy is notoriously difficult to prove. In this situation, Ahmed may be the key. He's alluded to co-operating with the police. If he does, that will help the case.

    However, long sentences? It's doubtful.
    Long Kesh, or Crumlin Road would have been a good option unfortunately they are no longer options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    When?

    Firstly, we don't know what the specific charges are.

    Secondly, conspiracy is notoriously difficult to prove. In this situation, Ahmed may be the key. He's alluded to co-operating with the police. If he does, that will help the case.

    However, long sentences? It's doubtful.
    I think there is almost no chance these guys will go to jail. White collar crime rarely gets punished in Britain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Something I've just seen for the first time "Sheik Imran Ahmad also known as Imran Ahmad" Anyone know more about the sheik bit?
    Fantastic - most sheiks want to get a football club and pour unlimited cash into it. Nae luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatHead View Post
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    From BBC

    "Rangers boss Mark Warburton will not go overboard in the January transfer window for fear of upsetting a successful dressing room. (Various)"

    Roughly translated means we still won't have any money.

    Warburton said exactly the same thing at Brentford when they were flying high.

    The club was urging him to flash the cash (plenty was available) but he said it might unsettle the team. It was the start of the falling out with the owner, Matthew Benham. I bet Benham wishes he had him back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Sarf View Post
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    Warburton said exactly the same thing at Brentford when they were flying high.

    The club was urging him to flash the cash (plenty was available) but he said it might unsettle the team. It was the start of the falling out with the owner, Matthew Benham. I bet Benham wishes he had him back now.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Sarf View Post
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    Warburton said exactly the same thing at Brentford when they were flying high.

    The club was urging him to flash the cash (plenty was available) but he said it might unsettle the team. It was the start of the falling out with the owner, Matthew Benham. I bet Benham wishes he had him back now.

    TBH nothing wrong with that philosophy, if the team is playing well, the squad are happy and you feel you have the right players to do the job, then why spend for the sake of it, getting a well gelled happy squad isn't always easy, so why unsettle it.

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    I think it was Kevin Keegan at Newcastle that kept on signing very good players (Asprilla) possibly to the detriment of an already good and settled team.

    Warburton would be mad to rock the boat too much mid-season imo.

    Ok, maybe if they're miles ahead they could start to think towards next season but if we (or anyone else) are anywhere near them then even one hiccup could set in a fair bit of self-doubt and backfire on them.

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    Warburton said exactly the same thing at Brentford when they were flying high.

    The club was urging him to flash the cash (plenty was available) but he said it might unsettle the team. It was the start of the falling out with the owner, Matthew Benham. I bet Benham wishes he had him back now.
    Let's hope Warburton matches his success last season - Brentford weren't promoted.

    Not wanting to spend will be music to the ears of King and others who're worried about exactly how much they need to put in to make it to the end of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballengeich View Post
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    Let's hope Warburton matches his success last season - Brentford weren't promoted.

    Not wanting to spend will be music to the ears of King and others who're worried about exactly how much they need to put in to make it to the end of the season.
    There's a world of difference between not wanting to spend and not having a pot to piss in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballengeich View Post
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    Let's hope Warburton matches his success last season - Brentford weren't promoted.

    Not wanting to spend will be music to the ears of King and others who're worried about exactly how much they need to put in to make it to the end of the season.
    By January, we need to be putting pressure on Sevco so that the fans are begging for more players.

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    It may be interesting, but his style of writing really gets on my nerves. He comes across as the most annoying person ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    It may be interesting, but his style of writing really gets on my nerves. He comes across as the most annoying person ever.
    Nah...That title is held in perpetuity by Craig Le Vain

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    It may be interesting, but his style of writing really gets on my nerves. He comes across as the most annoying person ever.
    I'm am in agreement with you, apropos his writing style.

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