Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

***Billy Whizz*** · 09-09-2015 10:19 PM

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Ozy, is the cash flow problems on this article nor worse that most experts were reckoning?

**PatHead** · 09-09-2015 10:26 PM

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Ozy, is the cash flow problems on this article nor worse that most experts were reckoning?

Hope so

***Ozyhibby*** · 09-09-2015 10:44 PM

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Ozy, is the cash flow problems on this article nor worse that most experts were reckoning?

Up until now most estimates were that they had money till November. Not sure why it would now be brought forward. Either way, they still appear to need external finance. Doesn't look like the 3 bears are up for lending anymore and there is little chance of a share issue while there are ongoing court cases casting doubt on the ownership of assets (that may also make admin difficult).
In short Billy, I've not got a clue but my fingers are crossed. We could do with a break.

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***Billy Whizz*** · 09-09-2015 10:55 PM

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Up until now most estimates were that they had money till November. Not sure why it would now be brought forward. Either way, they still appear to need external finance. Doesn't look like the 3 bears are up for lending anymore and there is little chance of a share issue while there are ongoing court cases casting doubt on the ownership of assets (that may also make admin difficult).
In short Billy, I've not got a clue but my fingers are crossed. We could do with a break.

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November was what I had read, but it looks like they are going to need some serious funding sometime soon. However the more they win, the more fans will roll up to Ibrox for the home games. A nice little defeat sometime soon wouldn't go amiss

***Billy Whizz*** · 09-09-2015 10:55 PM

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Hope so

Pray so

***Ozyhibby*** · 09-09-2015 11:44 PM

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November was what I had read, but it looks like they are going to need some serious funding sometime soon. However the more they win, the more fans will roll up to Ibrox for the home games. A nice little defeat sometime soon wouldn't go amiss

Even if they sell out every week they will still run out of cash. They have almost burnt through the season ticket money already.

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***jonty*** · 10-09-2015 12:19 PM

Ally and The Rangers agree to terminate contractearly , dave king claims Hibs approached The Rangers over Scott Allan and The Rangers to win premiership next season.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ract-1-3883084

Deluded.

***Viva_Palmeiras*** · 10-09-2015 12:35 PM

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Ally and The Rangers agree to terminate contractearly , dave king claims Hibs approached The Rangers over Scott Allan and The Rangers to win premiership next season.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ract-1-3883084

Deluded.

Didn't see the bit about SA - retracted?

***Oscar T Grouch*** · 10-09-2015 12:37 PM

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Ally and The Rangers agree to terminate contractearly , dave king claims Hibs approached The Rangers over Scott Allan and The Rangers to win premiership next season.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ract-1-3883084

Deluded.

Can only see the story about AMcC nowt there about SA or winning premiership next year.

***grunt*** · 10-09-2015 12:44 PM

Raman Bhardwaj‏@STVRaman 43m43 minutes ago Dave King claims Hibs came to Rangers asking if they wanted to do business to buy Scott Allan.

**~~hibs0666~~** · 10-09-2015 12:50 PM

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Raman Bhardwaj‏@STVRaman 43m43 minutes ago Dave King claims Hibs came to Rangers asking if they wanted to do business to buy Scott Allan.

It's great of King to acknowledge that we stitched them up a cracker.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 10-09-2015 12:52 PM

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Raman Bhardwaj‏@STVRaman 43m43 minutes ago Dave King claims Hibs came to Rangers asking if they wanted to do business to buy Scott Allan.

... and the follow-up?

Rangers... "yes, please."

Hibs.... "thought so. Beat it."

***greenginger*** · 10-09-2015 01:24 PM

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Raman Bhardwaj‏@STVRaman 43m43 minutes ago Dave King claims Hibs came to Rangers asking if they wanted to do business to buy Scott Allan.

Would expect nothing less from King. He is a glib and shameless liar after all and he needs excuses to keep the knuckle draggers thinking of things other than where the money is going to come fro to keep SS sevco afloat.

***Jim44*** · 10-09-2015 01:51 PM

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Raman Bhardwaj‏@STVRaman 43m43 minutes ago Dave King claims Hibs came to Rangers asking if they wanted to do business to buy Scott Allan.

They will probably rise above it, but, if I were in Dempster and Stubbs' shoes, I would be all over that like a ton of bricks. Don't let King have the last word.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 10-09-2015 01:58 PM

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They will probably rise above it, but, if I were in Dempster and Stubbs' shoes, I would be all over that like a ton of bricks. Don't let King have the last word.

Shameless liar Mr King......Thought they would have more pertinent things to worry about at the moment......

***Ozyhibby*** · 10-09-2015 02:01 PM

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They will probably rise above it, but, if I were in Dempster and Stubbs' shoes, I would be all over that like a ton of bricks. Don't let King have the last word.

I think they probably have to respond given their stance over the summer.
Given that the club are trying to rebuild the trust between the club and the fans, they can't allow this to go unremarked upon.

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***Ozyhibby*** · 10-09-2015 02:02 PM

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Shameless liar Mr King......Thought they would have more pertinent things to worry about at the moment......

They do which is probably why he has said it. He knows it will keep our hapless press busy for a few days while he is here.

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***CropleyWasGod*** · 10-09-2015 02:06 PM

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They do which is probably why he has said it. He knows it will keep our hapless press busy for a few days while he is here.

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It's not on the STV site, and only been Tweeted by Bhardwaj.

I'm guessing that, if DK did say it, he's retracted it.

In a normal environment, other media people would now be asking him about it. In other words, don't expect anyone to follow it up.

***marinello59*** · 10-09-2015 02:08 PM

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It's not on the STV site, and only been Tweeted by Bhardwaj.

I'm guessing that, if DK did say it, he's retracted it.

In a normal environment, other media people would now be asking him about it. In other words, don't expect anyone to follow it up.

It's on the STV news app and he is adamant the initial approach came from Hibs and then our stance changed.

***marinello59*** · 10-09-2015 02:10 PM

FROM STV NEWS APP

Hibs made initial approach to Rangers over Scott Allan, Dave King claims
Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:18:00 BST

Rangers chairman Dave King has claimed that Hibernian made the initial approach to the Ibrox club over the transfer of Scott Allan.

Highly-rated midfielder Allan moved from Hibernian to Celtic in August after weeks of uncertainty over the player’s future.

Rangers had made multiple bids for the 23-year-old before his switch to Glasgow’s East End but Hibernian rejected their offers, insisting they would not sell to a Championship promotion rival.

When confirming that Allan had submitted a written transfer request after a second Rangers offer was knocked back, Hibs had said that they had rejected two "unwelcome and uninvited" bids for the player. The club explained that they had "no wish to transfer a valuable player to strengthen a major rival in the battle to win the Championship and gain promotion to the Premiership".

Now, King has questioned the Edinburgh side’s public stance, claiming that Hibs had contacted Rangers to initiate talks over the possible sale of Allan.

When the initial bid was made from Rangers and rejected by their rivals, he said that the reply surprised him. He added that he was "very, very grateful" to Celtic for eventually signing Allan, saying the Parkhead club had "done Rangers a favour".

"Where I viewed it differently from Hibs was that the initial approach had really come from Hibs," King said.

"They said ‘we know you’re interested in Scott so if you do want to do business let’s do it quickly so we know where we stand’.

"We proceeded to do it quite quickly.

"We were therefore surprised when Hibs’ official response was ‘we will not sell to Rangers under any circumstances whatsoever’.

"We initially took that as a negotiating position to increase the price. It was only after another couple of rounds of negotiations that we understood they were really serious. No matter what we did they were not going to sell to us.

"Therefore, I’m very, very grateful to Celtic for taking him away from Hibs. They did us a favour rather than leaving him behind."

While saying he understood Hibs' eventual stance, he insisted they had initiated discussions.

"The initial one was a discussion with Hibs saying ‘Look, we’ve heard you’re interested in Scott Allan," King repeated. "I think [Rangers director] Paul Murray had made a statement to the media.

"[They said] ‘If you are interested, please come in and do business quickly so we know where we stand and can get a replacement’.

"That’s the invitation that we acted on. Clearly, at a later stage, someone at Hibs [changed that].

"As far as I’m concerned, Rangers acted correctly in all aspects and we’ve put it behind us.

"I’ve had a change of correspondence with them and I think we’re both happy there’s no issue to be carried forward.

Hibernian have yet to respond to King's claim.

***Ozyhibby*** · 10-09-2015 02:10 PM

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It's not on the STV site, and only been Tweeted by Bhardwaj.

I'm guessing that, if DK did say it, he's retracted it.

In a normal environment, other media people would now be asking him about it. In other words, don't expect anyone to follow it up.

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs...e-king-claims/

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***CropleyWasGod*** · 10-09-2015 02:14 PM

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http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs...e-king-claims/

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Your technical capabilities are clearly better than mine.

Thanks for that.

Okay, I'm with you... Hibs should respond.

***Bostonhibby*** · 10-09-2015 02:53 PM

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http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs...e-king-claims/

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Any possibility King might not be telling the truth? is it in his character?

Another attempt to put a wee bit pressure on Hibs now that the transfer window is shut? Ignore him. He will go away.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 10-09-2015 02:57 PM

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Any possibility King might not be telling the truth? is it in his character?

Another attempt to put a wee bit pressure on Hibs now that the transfer window is shut? Ignore him. He will go away.

SFA should be looking at this odious institution, new club, same drivel, same bully boy tactics.......

***Bostonhibby*** · 10-09-2015 03:03 PM

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SFA should be looking at this odious institution, new club, same drivel, same bully boy tactics.......

More chance of a fish riding a bicycle, especially now that he has been approved as their latest fit and proper person.

***Jim44*** · 10-09-2015 03:10 PM

Either we did make an initial approach or we didn't make an initial approach. After all that happened, I think we all want to know from the horse's mouth that we didn't. There's a simple way to get the facts straight.

**SmashinGlass** · 10-09-2015 03:17 PM

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Either we did make an initial approach or we didn't make an initial approach. After all that happened, I think we all want to know from the horse's mouth that we didn't. There's a simple way to get the facts straight.

There are no facts to get straight Jim. King is a liar

**Mr White** · 10-09-2015 03:23 PM

I suspect if hibs do respond it'll be another well worded statement. I'd like to see them name dropping the south African judge that labelled king a glib and shameless liar.