Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[BH Hibs]

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I made the point previously that it may be better for Hibs if The Rangers get promoted, and was duly called a panic merchant. My preference was purely based on the fact that The Rangers would most likely spend a lot more than the likes of Motherwell to get out of this division and that seems to have been proven already. Not having the money has never stopped them before.

I see your point however they appear to be vastly overspending to entice players to play for them rather than what they are worth. By that I mean I dont think Wilson is worth half of that and he doesn't suddenly become twice the player because he's paid twice his worth. It's a further recipe for disaster and FWIW I'd much rather have Fontaine and Hanlon than what they are signing.

[Big_Franck]

The new rangers have a long way to go before anyone in the championship should be fearing them. Warburton has talked about bringing in 4/5 players. If they only bring in 5 players this summer we´ll have a stronger squad IMO. Looking at their squad just now it´s horrible.

Goalkeepers
Cammy Bell

Defenders
Marius Zaliukas
Darren McGregor
Lee Wallace
Danny Wilson
Rob Kiernan

Midfielders
Nicky Law
Robbie Crawford
Andy Murdoch
David Templeton
Fraser Aird
Dean Shiels

Forwards
Tom Walsh
Calum Gallagher
Kenny Miller
Nicky Clark

They´ll have to sign a lot more players, and of a better quality than Danny Wilson or Rob Kiernan, before we´ll have anything to fear.

[Keith_M]

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Serious question
Which of their three signings to date should set our alarm bells ringing.

IMO, all three of them.

Not based on their abilities (although all three are decent players for this level of football) but because they have demonstrated that they are willing to spend silly money in their quest to get promoted.

I'm not saying that guarantees them promotion, but a relegated club like Motherwell would most likely have been forced to have a clear out and now be recruiting from the bargain basement.

[Jim44]

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Which of their three signings to date should set our alarm bells ringing.

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Very true. IMO Wilson is very overrated. Farid had him in the 2 derbies he played, scoring twice.

Serious answer. Rermember that players don't necessarily stay the same standard of player no matter who they play for. A decent player at one club can become an excellent player at another club if conditions are right. I'm not ready to knock the effect that Warburton might have on the future of Sevco and I'm not daft enough to think that all his recruits will be mediocre forever.

[HappyHanlon]

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Serious question
Which of their three signings to date should set our alarm bells ringing.

Would take Eustace in a heartbeat.

Other two, nah!

[CropleyWasGod]

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Apparently Wilson is on £8k a week, rising to £10k if they get promoted, and Eustace is being offered £10k a week. Proof that no matter what their turnover is, they really don't care and will continue to overspend.

Is there a credible source for these figures?

[Ozyhibby]

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Is there a credible source for these figures?

Exactly. I very much doubt they are paying anything like that for these players. They are just not at that level.
Wilson is decent but was only earning £1500 pw at Hearts and when he announced he was leaving most Yams were not that fussed either way. If he has got a deal like that at Ibrox then fair play to him and I hope he thanks his agent properly.

[Deansy]

Lets be honest, the Hun will spend any amount of money it wants to as, has been proved, no-one will stand in their way. Neither the GFA or law-enforement will even look their way at any questionable moves they make. King not having any scrutiny fromj the markets only makes it easier for him to do what the Hun are famous for - all-things illegal and immoral !!. That club is FOR crooks and it's RUN by crooks - hopefully we and the other clubs use that fact as incentive to ram the s*um in every single game !!

[Mikey09]

In my opinion you can spend as much dosh as you want on players... The obvious secret is it's got to be the right players. Danny Wilson- average. Eustace - nearly 36 and not kicked a ball for months due to serious knee damage. The lad Kiernan I have no idea. The first two don't exactly have me worried. So crack on The Rangers... Keep spending vast sums on bang average players!!

[JeMeSouviens]

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The new rangers have a long way to go before anyone in the championship should be fearing them. Warburton has talked about bringing in 4/5 players. If they only bring in 5 players this summer we´ll have a stronger squad IMO. Looking at their squad just now it´s horrible.

Goalkeepers
Cammy Bell

Defenders
Marius Zaliukas
Darren McGregor
Lee Wallace
Danny Wilson
Rob Kiernan

Midfielders
Nicky Law
Robbie Crawford
Andy Murdoch
David Templeton
Fraser Aird
Dean Shiels

Forwards
Tom Walsh
Calum Gallagher
Kenny Miller
Nicky Clark

They´ll have to sign a lot more players, and of a better quality than Danny Wilson or Rob Kiernan, before we´ll have anything to fear.

Persistent rumours that Wallace and Law will be away as well.

[Spike Mandela]

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Persistent rumours that Wallace and Law will be away as well.

Lee Wallace breaking into Scotland squad shows some loyalty to Sevco and spenf 4 years in lower leagues. What a waste of a career. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he moved.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Lets be honest, the Hun will spend any amount of money it wants to as, has been proved, no-one will stand in their way. Neither the GFA or law-enforement will even look their way at any questionable moves they make. King not having any scrutiny fromj the markets only makes it easier for him to do what the Hun are famous for - all-things illegal and immoral !!. That club is FOR crooks and it's RUN by crooks - hopefully we and the other clubs use that fact as incentive to ram the s*um in every single game !!

Not sure that they have made any questionable moves thus far, other than from a commercial perspective.

[Brightside]

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Serious answer. Rermember that players don't necessarily stay the same standard of player no matter who they play for. A decent player at one club can become an excellent player at another club if conditions are right. I'm not ready to knock the effect that Warburton might have on the future of Sevco and I'm not daft enough to think that all his recruits will be mediocre forever.

Yeh they might get worse... infact with that lot there is a very good chance.

[liamh2202]

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Lee Wallace breaking into Scotland squad shows some loyalty to Sevco and spenf 4 years in lower leagues. What a waste of a career. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he moved.

I'd still take Lee at hibs ,, in fact the Mrs has a pic of him somewhere as a youngster with a hibs top on ;)

[Ozyhibby]

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Not sure that they have made any questionable moves thus far, other than from a commercial perspective.

I agree, all the crookedness that is happening with the new club appears to be to the detriment of new Rangers. If they do go belly up again then they can at least play the victim card legitimately this time, although you could reasonably call them idiots for not seeing it coming.

[Spike Mandela]

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Yeh they might get worse... infact with that lot there is a very good chance.

Lets face it, no matter your view of Wilson at least he's better than Moshni.

[Weststandwanab]

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Lets face it, no matter your view of Wilson at least he's better than Moshni.

I am better than Moshni !

[Deansy]

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Lee Wallace breaking into Scotland squad shows some loyalty to Sevco and spenf 4 years in lower leagues. What a waste of a career. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he moved.

Still, that 'loyalty' probably earned him 3-4 times more than most other players in Scotland - however, paying the price now for selling his soul to the devil, the 'non-football' ethos at 'Greyskull' has washed him out !

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Not sure that they have made any questionable moves thus far, other than from a commercial perspective.

Oh aye, agreed - so far ......................... but I wouldn't hold my breath. They can't help themselves, they NEED to flaunt their 'We can do anything we like - we're Rangers' stuff so their fans don't think they've went all soft and legit !!

[matty_f]

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I am better than Moshni !

You're not in an exclusive club there, pal!!

Some things that are better than Moshni:

Danny Wilson
Weststandwanab
hepatitis B
Atari Jaguar
Trevor Jordache's patio.
Sinclair C5
The last Indiana Jones movie
The Phantom Menace
The Joey from Friends spin-off
Christian Nade
Our Scottish Cup record.
Sex and the City (any season)
Patrick Kielty
PMT
Choking in your own vomit.

Some things that Moshni is better than:

Yams.

[Peevemor]

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I am better than Moshni !

I'm better than Moshni and so's my wife.

[bod]

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Apparently Wilson is on £8k a week, rising to £10k if they get promoted, and Eustace is being offered £10k a week. Proof that no matter what their turnover is, they really don't care and will continue to overspend.

where you hearing the wages from ?
not doubting just curious

[JeMeSouviens]

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You're not in an exclusive club there, pal!!

Some things that are better than Moshni:

Danny Wilson
Weststandwanab
hepatitis B
Atari Jaguar
Trevor Jordache's patio.
Sinclair C5
The last Indiana Jones movie
The Phantom Menace
The Joey from Friends spin-off
Christian Nade
Our Scottish Cup record.
Sex and the City (any season)
Patrick Kielty
PMT
Choking in your own vomit.

Some things that Moshni is better than:

Yams.

Coincidentally, he's in that:

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[hibees 7062]

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Lee Wallace breaking into Scotland squad shows some loyalty to Sevco and spenf 4 years in lower leagues. What a waste of a career. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he moved.

He's available for 300k

[Nutmegged]

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Is there a credible source for these figures?

His wage wont be bumped up on Promotion but I'm hearing he most definitely is on £400,000 per year which is just slightly under £8k per week

[greenginger]

Looks like Philmac. was on the money with the King/Ashley pow-wow the day of the GM.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...tail-deal.html

[HoboHarry]

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Looks like Philmac. was on the money with the King/Ashley pow-wow the day of the GM.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...tail-deal.html

On this occasion I didn't really doubt that Phil was wrong. Like any journalist you cannot believe everything he says, but I find him a refreshing change from the sycophantic morons who feast from the succulent lamb provided by Sevco....

[Deansy]

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Looks like Philmac. was on the money with the King/Ashley pow-wow the day of the GM.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...tail-deal.html

'As the 10th biggest shareholder in Rangers, we put the club first and think the shareholders in Sports Direct should do the same for our mutual benefit by negotiating a win-win deal’

Somehow I think the SD share-holders will stick with the current'win-win deal' that's in place !. The 'Moron Loyal' are struggling to understand that, unlike them, people who bought shares in 'Sports Direct' didn't buy the shares because they support SD, they bought them to make money.

[AndyM_1875]

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On this occasion I didn't really doubt that Phil was wrong. Like any journalist you cannot believe everything he says, but I find him a refreshing change from the sycophantic morons who feast from the succulent lamb provided by Sevco....

He gives his audience what they want just like the tabloids do.

He was right that King met Ashley. He then went on a flight of fancy about what Ashley thinks and what King apparently did. In truth he has absolutely no idea but that's typical of him. He gets one thing right and then makes it all up as he goes along. You can usually tell when he begins a sentence with "I am hearing..." or "My sources tell me ...." that it's absolute garbage.

The tabloid MSM have their audience (newspaper buying weegies generally over 40) and Phil has his (conspiracy theorist Sellik minded fruitcakes).

Believe neither.

[greenginger]

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He gives his audience what they want just like the tabloids do.

He was right that King met Ashley. He then went on a flight of fancy about what Ashley thinks and what King apparently did. In truth he has absolutely no idea but that's typical of him. He gets one thing right and then makes it all up as he goes along. You can usually tell when he begins a sentence with "I am hearing..." or "My sources tell me ...." that it's absolute garbage.

The tabloid MSM have their audience (newspaper buying weegies generally over 40) and Phil has his (conspiracy theorist Sellik minded fruitcakes).

Believe neither.

Philmac must have some source. You can't just guess King and Ashley met on a certain day. His source is probably in the Ashley camp leaking whatever big Mike thinks will give him an advantage.

How much of what Philmac writes is leaked and actually true and how much is guesswork is ,well guesswork.

A bit like Hibs.net

[ancient hibee]

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Philmac must have some source. You can't just guess King and Ashley met on a certain day. His source is probably in the Ashley camp leaking whatever big Mike thinks will give him an advantage.

How much of what Philmac writes is leaked and actually true and how much is guesswork is ,well guesswork.

A bit like Hibs.net

The Daily Mail could well have just lifted the story from Philmac.The worst that could happen is that they just have to say the story was wrong.Why would they be having "secret "negotiations when Rangers have been shouting for weeks that they want a better deal and Ashley has told them how to get it.