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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    I see Mbabu, Streete and Ferguson are all playing for their development team tonight. Just in time for the playoffs
    Who were they playing and what was final score and did any of these players score I know McCall went on record a few weeks back to praise Ferguson and he made it clear he would be in his plans if fit so think he will play whenever McCall thinks he is ready He said he was a goalscorer .
    Streete looked a tidy player in the few games he had before he broke down again .

    Will be interesting to to see how many of them get some game time against Hearts or whether he keeps them under wraps for playoffs

    however will players be fully committed to playoffs if just back from injury and not staying at ibrox next Season


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    Does that mean they're having trouble finding a semi-plausible loophole to let King and Murray pass the test?
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...ticked-5593823

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    Marathon process!? He'll be whitewashed in, this is the ****** doing it's bit. The only arduous part of the process for the authorities will be finishing off their lunchtime session with dave and then wondering how to make it sound like sporting integrity to have a 46 times convicted tax fraudster involved in Scottish football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    It's a bit rich for the Record to now be criticising the SFA for their swift acceptance of Whyte when they themselves were behind the support for the guy with their "billionaire" stories.

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    Compared to King's criminal record Whyte was only playing at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Compared to King's criminal record Whyte was only playing at it.

    hmmm...not sure that's true. Don't think King has a criminal record, the criminal charges were dropped as part of his settlement...He admitted 41 lesser counts of breaching an income tax act...none of them criminal convictions.

    Don't know all the details, but these are the headlines as I know it

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    hmmm...not sure that's true. Don't think King has a criminal record, the criminal charges were dropped as part of his settlement...He admitted 41 lesser counts of breaching an income tax act...none of them criminal convictions.

    Don't know all the details, but these are the headlines as I know it

    If he hadn't paid his fine he would have been jailed.Do they put you in jail in S.A.for non criminal activities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    If he hadn't paid his fine he would have been jailed.Do they put you in jail in S.A.for non criminal activities?

    That would be for non payment of his fine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    If he hadn't paid his fine he would have been jailed.Do they put you in jail in S.A.for non criminal activities?
    As in Britain tax evasion is a crime with a jail sentence being an option if you evade.

    "King, together with entities associated to him, entered into a plea and sentencing bargain with the revenue service at the Palmridge Regional Court on the same day.
    As part of the settlement, King is to pay a fine of R3.2-million (R80 000 per count) or spend 24 months behind bars. In addition, he was ordered to pay an amount of R8.75-million towards the Criminal Asset Recovery Fund via the Asset Forfeiture Unit."

    The plea bargain would presumably be on a guilty one otherwise no sentencing?

    Read more: http://www.southafrica.info/news/sar...#ixzz3YdAklf7a
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    rangers have just put out a statment saying there season ticket holders will get into the play off games for free spfl spokesperson said this matter is under active discussion? and we expect to arrive to a definitive position in the next few days?? they are just wondering how they can back down and save face IMO,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shetlandhibee View Post
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    rangers have just put out a statment saying there season ticket holders will get into the play off games for free spfl spokesperson said this matter is under active discussion? and we expect to arrive to a definitive position in the next few days?? they are just wondering how they can back down and save face IMO,,,
    The Rangers trying to show the hierarchy they are back in the big time and mean what they said about having influence on any matters that they can .But they won't play ball with us when we put forward motions ,as always they just want things thier own way .Am already fed up with the attention they are getting from Media through here on the West Coast But was always going to be that way .

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    The Rangers statement is a joke. Actually TELLING the authorities what's going to happen. Arrogant pricks. Casting up Hibs not charging us last season but missing the point that there was no rule in place last season. Completely different scenarios.
    I'm a season ticket holder at ER but I would pay for the play offs if it meant these fannies not getting their own way.

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    The Rangers statement is a joke. Actually TELLING the authorities what's going to happen. Arrogant pricks. Casting up Hibs not charging us last season but missing the point that there was no rule in place last season. Completely different scenarios.
    I'm a season ticket holder at ER but I would pay for the play offs if it meant these fannies not getting their own way.

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    Sevco Huns can point out that we didn't charge last season, so there is a precedent.

    Let's not get distracted by the fact it's Sevco Huns challenging the SPFL. The real issue is the SPFL grabbing 50% of the gross takings for the playoff games so that it can gift most of the money to undeserving cases in the SPFL who already get the bulk of the prize money anyway.

    Make it 25% of the gross, and allow the home club to keep 25% for costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shetlandhibee View Post
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    rangers have just put out a statment saying there season ticket holders will get into the play off games for free spfl spokesperson said this matter is under active discussion? and we expect to arrive to a definitive position in the next few days?? they are just wondering how they can back down and save face IMO,,,

    Tin hat on here, taken out the fact it's them I fully agree with them! Season ticket should include play offs. I'll still pay if I have to but I bought the ST at the start of the season with the CTU and nothing was said about it not being available for play off games!

    Not blaming Hibs if they are charging rules are rules, just wish it was made clear at the start.

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    Season Ticket = Equals the Whole Season !!!

    Does it Not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    If it is true, it's another indication of just how dire are the straits they're in.

    I say that as the world's hatiest hater of DS the band...and to be able to lump them in with RFC pleases me greatly :)
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    It's a bit rich for the Record to now be criticising the SFA for their swift acceptance of Whyte when they themselves were behind the support for the guy with their "billionaire" stories.
    Exactly. Zero accountability and simply playing to the feelings of their paymasters. Free press ? Don't make me laugh. DR in the back pockets of the OF and their owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
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    Tin hat on here, taken out the fact it's them I fully agree with them! Season ticket should include play offs. I'll still pay if I have to but I bought the ST at the start of the season with the CTU and nothing was said about it not being available for play off games!

    Not blaming Hibs if they are charging rules are rules, just wish it was made clear at the start.
    The question is, why didn't Rangers back Hibs last week at the SPFL meeting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    The question is, why didn't Rangers back Hibs last week at the SPFL meeting?
    Flexing their imaginary muscle, or at least the one that used to belong to the now defunct Glasgow rangers? Or is it just that they are a bunch of b*******?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    The question is, why didn't Rangers back Hibs last week at the SPFL meeting?
    With what? You meaning the deal to give the clubs out with the play offs less money? If so Hibs and Hearts had some cheek if you ask me! Petrie agreed those terms and then wants to change them when we make the play offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
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    With what? You meaning the deal to give the clubs out with the play offs less money? If so Hibs and Hearts had some cheek if you ask me! Petrie agreed those terms and then wants to change them when we make the play offs.
    No, Hibs raised a 2nd point about wanting to charge what they wanted in the playoffs. Nobody backed them and it was thrown out by the SPFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Flexing their imaginary muscle, or at least the one that used to belong to the now defunct Glasgow rangers? Or is it just that they are a bunch of b*******?
    Both

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    No, Hibs raised a 2nd point about wanting to charge what they wanted in the playoffs. Nobody backed them and it was thrown out by the SPFL.
    Ah right, sorry thought you meant the other thing. If that's true then they are as two faced as always mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
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    Ah right, sorry thought you meant the other thing. If that's true then they are as two faced as always mate.
    Here's part of the statement LD made -

    On the issue of Play-Off Levy, three Clubs – Hibernian, Heart of Midlothian and Motherwell - had requested a simple Resolution which would have had the effect that the Levy should be 25% while the Parachute payment is fully funded by the Scottish FA and 50% when there is no Scottish FA funding. All three Clubs were invited to speak.

    The Board’s own resolution on minimum pricing, the eligibility of Season Tickets and an allowance for match expenses in respect of Play Off finances was also considered as Resolution 2.

    Neither resolution progressed. Resolution 1 failed at the first hurdle when a majority of Premiership Clubs voted against it. Resolution 2 was then withdrawn by the SPFL Board, with the consent of a majority of Clubs present.

    Leeann Dempster, Chief Executive of Hibernian, said: “There was a good discussion at the General Meeting on the Play Off Levy and we accept the considered will of Member Clubs.
    “In truth, the debate began in October last year when the Board of the SPFL brought forward its resolution on minimum pricing and the eligibility of Season Tickets which prompted the debate around the Levy at a time when the Parachute payment if fully funded by the Scottish FA.

    “The matter has been concluded and the focus should now be on the important matches we face in the coming weeks, starting with the match against Alloa Athletic here on Saturday.”
    So Rangers sat back while we argued a point that dated back to October. And then once it was agreed that the matter was settled, they decided to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    Here's part of the statement LD made -



    So Rangers sat back while we argued a point that dated back to October. And then once it was agreed that the matter was settled, they decided to put the cat amongst the pigeons.
    What a bunch of ********s, anything to try make themselves look better. Seems The Rangers are very much like their old selves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mca View Post
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    Season Ticket = Equals the Whole Season !!!

    Does it Not.
    Playoffs are not part of the season......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    Playoffs are not part of the season......
    I agree, season ticket covers the 18 games during the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    Playoffs are not part of the season......

    Then why are player bookings accrued during the " season " counted in the play-offs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Then why are player bookings accrued during the " season " counted in the play-offs ?
    That's the rules of the game. Not the rules of the clubs ticketing procedures.

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