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  • Opposed - but will continue to support the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr White View Post
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    He'd be glad to be rid of anyone who has had or would hope to have some power at ibrox though no? I'm assuming he's ego driven and power hungry in the traditional rangers manner.
    Yeah, of course. It's about ego rather than money.

    Alternatively, he might prefer Ashley et al to sell their shares off to other, smaller, investors who are less of a threat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    Had Sportsound on on way home. That was their consensus. His chosen Nomad did their due diligence and decided to decline his offer.
    Find all the time when looking at commercial borrowing that once you look "under the bonnet" it bears no relation to what was described.

    The thing is that any Nomad worth his salt should have known there were likely to be problems when it was widely known of the problems in the press and marketplace. I simply don't believe King had a Nomad lined up. He had likely looked into getting one and discussed it with one or two but not got one lined up. A case of being seen to go through the motions and given the opportunity to blame everyone else I doubt he is bothered in the slightest about changing indexes.

    He could be described as disingenuous at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatHead View Post
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    Find all the time when looking at commercial borrowing that once you look "under the bonnet" it bears no relation to what was described.

    The thing is that any Nomad worth his salt should have known there were likely to be problems when it was widely known of the problems in the press and marketplace. I simply don't believe King had a Nomad lined up. He had likely looked into getting one and discussed it with one or two but not got one lined up. A case of being seen to go through the motions and given the opportunity to blame everyone else I doubt he is bothered in the slightest about changing indexes.

    He could be described as disingenuous at best.

    Or as another scoundrel James Hunt of a Hun at worst, or rather in truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Or as another scoundrel James Hunt of a Hun at worst, or rather in truth.
    Indeed! :-)

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    Has anyone twigged that at the December AGM in the gazebo there was a resolution to reappoint Deloitte as Auditors (http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headli...-result-of-agm) but they had already told the old Board in November that they were quitting. Why was this resolution allowed to be part of the AGM when it was clearly never going to happen in reality.
    They really are taking the shareholders for mugs over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveSo View Post
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    Has anyone twigged that at the December AGM in the gazebo there was a resolution to reappoint Deloitte as Auditors (http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headli...-result-of-agm) but they had already told the old Board in November that they were quitting. Why was this resolution allowed to be part of the AGM when it was clearly never going to happen in reality.
    They really are taking the shareholders for mugs over there.
    Good spot, I hadn't realised that.

    Being pedantic, they were entitled to put forward a resolution to re-appoint Deloittes (emphasis on "re"). Equally so, Deloittes would have been entitled to decline the appointment.

    However, in the interests of transparency.........

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    From the Telegraph

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ck-market.html

    In the meantime, it is understood that Rangers will require another loan – following the £1.5 million lent by King’s allies, the Three Bears consortium – in order to meet running costs until the end of next month. Telegraph Sport understands, however, that the Ibrox board is relaxed about this and had anticipated the need for bridging funds before they gained control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Bridging to what, though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Bridging to what, though?
    Bridging to the next loan. They can only meet their obligations by borrowing money. This is how all big clumpanies operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Bridging to what, though?

    Depends when the Season Tickets go on sale.


    Don't be surprised if it turns out that is the Big Investment they've been talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    Depends when the Season Tickets go on sale.


    Don't be surprised if it turns out that is the Big Investment they've been talking about.
    You don't mean? Wait? Surely not?

    They're going to rely on ST income for their budget?

    It'll never catch on. ....

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    Season ticket money coming in, most of the duds on crazy money due to leave and replaceable with players on affordable contracts, new management team again at reasonable rates to be appointed.

    So what is under the bonnet that is so toxic ? Has anyone asked ? or is the Glib a shameless one pulling a fast one.

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    Says here that Sports direct can buy all of rangers retail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Says here that Sports direct can buy all of rangers retail
    At a ridiculously low valuation!
    "We've also been unsure about what has happened to the receipts of the players who have been sold."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ano hibby View Post
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    At a ridiculously low valuation!
    Great, eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Great, eh.
    Fantastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Says here that Sports direct can buy all of rangers retail
    So if the village idiots boycott buying the strips etc Ashley gets to own the whole shooting match and do what he likes with it for even less money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    So if the village idiots boycott buying the strips etc Ashley gets to own the whole shooting match and do what he likes with it for even less money?
    Seems to be.
    The person who tweeted that also seems to think they should not be including Rangers retail in their turnover figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Says here that Sports direct can buy all of rangers retail
    That Phil MacGhiollabhain has tweeted 'Ashley will move next week - things gonna get legal I suspect'

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Pmacgiollabhain/status/583981550351548416

    No idea what his track-record's like but even if it's not, I didn't think someone like MA would stay quiet for too long. As others have said, it's all about ego's now.

    Well, ego's and the knowledge there's still lots of money to be made out of, surely, World Football's most 'IQ-challenged' support !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    No great surprise there given he was talking with the powers that be months ago so he must of been confident enough He will soon be the new Moral Compass leading Scottish Football out the mess it's got itself into without The Rangers being in the big league all these years.

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    Looks to me as though the hot potato just got passed to the SFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Looks to me as though the hot potato just got passed to the SFA.


    i can hear a huge sense of relief at SFA HQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    i can hear a huge sense of relief at SFA HQ
    They have the rubber stamp ready - all that's left is for King to pass the FTP test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    They have the rubber stamp ready - all that's left is for King to pass the FTP test.

    i'm positive he will pass any FTP test...like all the other sectarian bigots in the Govan stands or is this another type of test

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    i'm positive he will pass any FTP test...like all the other sectarian bigots in the Govan stands or is this another type of test

    It's the all important fat and protestant person test, supported by football authorities, the police and the media alike so it's another formality for a multi convicted tax fraudster.

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    The dilemma remains for the SFA that if they allow a convicted tax fraudster to pass their 'fit and proper person' test how can they ever apply it to any other person.

    Would make the test pointless.(maybe it already is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    The dilemma remains for the SFA that if they allow a convicted tax fraudster to pass their 'fit and proper person' test how can they ever apply it to any other person.

    Would make the test pointless.(maybe it already is).
    And, if they refuse him, they will probably find themselves in a Court case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    The dilemma remains for the SFA that if they allow a convicted tax fraudster to pass their 'fit and proper person' test how can they ever apply it to any other person.

    Would make the test pointless.(maybe it already is).
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    And, if they refuse him, they will probably find themselves in a Court case.

    So what's the answer to this mess?. It isn't going away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leithenhibby View Post
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    So what's the answer to this mess?. It isn't going away.
    Not sure that it is a mess, TBH.

    DK will now be appointed to the Board, and RFC will then be obliged to make the necessary FPP declaration. The SFA will then decide whether he is.

    IMO, it's no biggie whether he's allowed or not. If he's not, he will have someone on the Board to do his bidding, a la Ashley/Lambias.

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