Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Iain G]

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The interview with Green is hilarious. Amazed newco fans son't want him back given all the good he claims to have done the club! That guy Petrie seems decent though...

Hard to work out which one of those involved is the biggest crook / biggest bullsh***er / biggest liar and teller of whopping tall tales / biggest egomanic / most delusional, its a helluva list to choose from:

David Murray
Craig Whyte
Charles Green
The Easydale Boys
Dave King
The Bare Faced Three
Fat Ally
Paul Murray?
John Brown

Am sure there are more?!

Mike Ashley looks like saint compared to this bunch...

[Deansy]

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Hilarious stuff from Green. Was disappointed to learn he wasn't arrested after all. Then this... http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//9653921



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Notice he didn't answer Whyte's question of how much he took out of them, waffled on about his salary/contract etc - unsurprisingly Whyte didn't follow it up !


P.s Is the NHS gown to give the impression he's not at some expensive, private hospital with all that lovely wonga he ..................... he seems to have ?

[seanshow]

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Rod Petrie demanded stripping of titles etc according to Green.

That must have been the Hilton @ the airport meeting when they were clocked using a conference room or something?

The tache playing the sporting integrity card, but Charlieboy wasn't buyin it....so der hun ended up at the ar$e of scottish football lookin for an invite back in.

[greenginger]

The Rangers getting their knickers in a twist over the security for Big Mike's bail-out


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30917103

Now, IIRC the Rangers fighting fund was set up to fight for Rangers Football Club not against them !

[Jack Hackett]

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The Rangers getting their knickers in a twist over the security for Big Mike's bail-out


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30917103

Now, IIRC the Rangers fighting fund was set up to fight for Rangers Football Club not against them !

They seem to have lost sight of the fact that it's a loan. What do they think he's going to do with it....dismantle it and ship it over to Newcastle?

Pay back the loan and there's no problem.....Oh! Wait a minute....

[greenginger]

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They seem to have lost sight of the fact that it's a loan. What do they think he's going to do with it....dismantle it and ship it over to Newcastle?

Pay back the loan and there's no problem.....Oh! Wait a minute....

What's the scrap steel tonnage rates like just now ?

Are Murray Metals still trading.

[ancient hibee]

Paul Murray wants Rangers to return "to a stable financial position".Would this be any relation to the Paul Murray who sat on Rangers board while it went bust?

[snedzuk]

interesting article here on Dave King

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30911000

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-30922826

Rangers director Sandy Easdale has said police are investigating threats made against him amid the ongoing and acrimonious battle for the Ibrox club.
Officers are believed to be monitoring his home after internet posts allegedly urged fans to attack his house in a bid to remove him from the club.



the keyboard warriors are out in force

[portycabbage]

Ashley rumoured to be getting together money for the loan (I assume the rest is for the petty cash tin)

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/m...s-9992832.html

[Deansy]

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interesting article here on Dave King

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30911000

Tom English - 'He (King) has given the fans a vision of a better future. God knows, they deserve it)

Yeah Tom, poor old Huns - the absolute darling-supporters of Scottish Football !!. Loved everywhere they go (as the people of Manchester, Dublin, Birmingham and countless other cities throughout Europe will attest to) for their geniality, warmth of spirit and exemplary conduct !. Other club's supporters deserve nothing compared to them. It's not their fault the powers-that-be at Ibrox decided to cheat for (xxxxx years ??) using money they didn't have, buying league-titles, cups, European-places that could've went to the stupid, honest Scottish-clubs. Nor were they responsible for the anti-Catholic sectarian-policy their club lived by for over a century !. Oh no, their fans have suffered enough and now they deserve a break !!


Aaaaaaaaargh - words fail me - is Tom English trying to replace Jim Traynor !!

[Springbank]

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interesting article here on Dave King

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30911000

This article is like a Wikipedia definition factory

Mendacious - sums up Rangers perfectly

A glib &shameless liar - a Rangers supporter

[ano hibby]

Can't do a link but Alex Thomson the C4 journalist has also written on King

[grunt]

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Can't do a link but Alex Thomson the C4 journalist has also written on King

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...e-rangers/8819

Does Dave King deserve a second chance at Rangers?

So is he the Messiah? God alone knows. But he most definitely has been a very naughty boy – and when it comes to Rangers FC then Monty Python is as good a frame of reference as anything else these days.

For perhaps only Cleese, Palin, Idle et al could come up with the current potential hattrick for the stricken club.
Tax own goal 1 : Sir David Murray’s tenure at Ibrox results in years of legal wrangling over whether the club (where the bosses paid no income tax) was avoiding or evading income tax. That one rolls on and on.
Tax own-goal 2 : Craig Whyte’s tenure after Murray where tax issues resulted in the police being called in; him being banned from Scottish football for life and the club restarting several leagues lower in the Scottish football league system. Scottish Police say the investigation continues.
Tax own-goal 3 and the possible hattrick?
Enter Dave King as would-be Rangers saviour from all this nonsense once and for all.
And he could be. He just could be… He’s a man of means. Rangers to the core and makes all the noises a lot of fans want to hear.
Tax

Just one issue though – yup – tax. The very naughty boy bit.
Dave King is a convicted tax cheat and now wants to own – of all things in the land – Rangers, probably the most tax-toxic sporting institution in Britain.
So given this blog is largely for those outwith Govan, Glasgow – indeed Scotland – it is worth reviewing the Dave King charge sheet.
In August 2013 a 13-year battle with the South African taxman ended with King pleading guilty to 41 charges at Gauteng High Court in South Africa.
King was fined R80,000 (about £4500) on each charge, totalling R3.28 million (about £187,000). The convictions relate to contravening the Income Tax Act; wilful failure to make required disclosures in annual income tax returns and failure to submit tax returns for two of his companies Metlika and Ben Nevis.
Further, King agreed to pay a Criminal Assets Recovery demand of R8.75 million (£499,000) within 30 days.
The South African Revenue Service (SARS) sought recovery of R706.7 million (£40,281,000) from an indictment of 322 charges relating to fraud, tax evasion, exchange control requirements, money laundering and racketeering.
It is worth returning again at this point to the words of the South African judge Brian Southwood a few years earlier in King’s long battle against the taxman. Judge Southwood said the unanimous opinion of the High Court was that Dave King:
“…is a mendacious witness whose evidence should not be accepted on any issue…”
that King;
“…showed no sign of embarrassment or any emotion when he conceded that he had lied to the (SARS) commissioner in a number of his income tax returns. In our assessment, he is a glib and shameless liar.”
Lesson learned?

Returning to Glasgow recently and poised to try and control the club, King says he has learned his lesson and all this behind him.
So Scottish football may now have its very own Ched Evans syndrome. Should a man with a past be given a second chance to have a high-profile position in (potentially) big-money football?
Of course many will rightly point out that rape is not tax-dodging. King pleaded guilty, Evans did not. King speaks of remorse, Evans speaks of denial. An on-pitch star cannot be compared to an off-pitch suit when it comes to being a role model.
All true – but then again of all the clubs it is Rangers – and the issue is tax.
That has to take the issue straight to questions of governance and the words ‘fit’, ‘proper’ and ‘person’ in the mind of any reasonable onlooker who cares about probity in the game – or safeguarding what remains of it in money-driven big football.
So what will happen? For the time being nothing. King wants the current board out. Current board wants in and ain’t for budging. But if…if…there should be a change of directorship then that would trigger notification to the SFA’s professional game board which would indeed discuss words like ‘fit’ and ‘proper’. Hopefully in depth.
Or they may do so and pass it all on up to the full board of the SFA in due course. The board or PGB must weigh the pros, (that presumably King would still be trading; still working as a director quite legally and not disbarred by any trading authority along with all mitigation), against the obvious cons that a man with this kind of form should not be let loose at Ibrox nor anywhere else in football.
In a sport where money talks ever louder, that might not be the easy and obvious judgement those for and against King are quick to make, with all the usual passion.
It could be that Mr King should be given a second chance. But surely only if the governing body, the PGB/SFA, runs a serious slide-rule over what is at stake here and endeavours to nail down the promises King has made to fans along with his colourful past.
Failure here means an unspeakable hattrick for Ibrox and the credibility of the SFA absolutely on the line. Should it come to it, they will need to get into, and all over King and be seen to do so, for the good of themselves, of Ibrox and of the game
But like I say, right now all the SFA needs to do and should do – is nothing.

- See more at: http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms....4dmWTV0f.dpuf

[Aldo]

Looks like der Hun have fallen out with Raith over tickets..........

RAGING Rangers are at war with Raith Rovers over their refusal to hand over tickets for next month’s league clash at Stark’s Park.

The Fifers have decided to sell away briefs directly to the Light Blue legions over fears they could be left out of pocket if the Ibrox club financially implodes again.

And that has left Rangers furious with their Championship rivals ahead of the February 20 fixture between the sides.

Rovers are worried about the dwindling cash reserves at Ibrox and announced yesterday they would handle the sale of tickets for away fans.

Rangers’ financial troubles sparked a similar row in December 2011 when Celtic demanded cash up front for derby briefs. Hoops chiefs feared they would lose out on £350,000 if their rivals went into administration and now Raith Rovers have similar concerns.

Ordinarily the Fife club would hand over a ticket allocation to Rangers who would then sell on to their own fans before reimbursing Rovers at a later date.

However, the Stark’s Park club are worried Rangers may find themselves unable to fulfil their financial obligations due to the ongoing turmoil at the club.

Rangers required an emergency loan of £500,000 from director Sandy Easdale to avoid being wound up by HMRC earlier this month.

The club have since made it clear further funds are urgently required, with Mike Ashley enraging Gers fans by offering a loan of £10million using Ibrox and Murray Park as security .

As a result of the continuing uncertainty Raith have decided to ditch the normal conventions and will sell the tickets directly.

A Rangers spokesperson said: “The club are in discussions with Raith Rovers on this matter.”


Well done Rovers. Stick to your guns.

[Dan Sarf]

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Looks like der Hun have fallen out with Raith over tickets..........

RAGING Rangers are at war with Raith Rovers over their refusal to hand over tickets for next month’s league clash at Stark’s Park.

The Fifers have decided to sell away briefs directly to the Light Blue legions over fears they could be left out of pocket if the Ibrox club financially implodes again.

And that has left Rangers furious with their Championship rivals ahead of the February 20 fixture between the sides.

Rovers are worried about the dwindling cash reserves at Ibrox and announced yesterday they would handle the sale of tickets for away fans.

Rangers’ financial troubles sparked a similar row in December 2011 when Celtic demanded cash up front for derby briefs. Hoops chiefs feared they would lose out on £350,000 if their rivals went into administration and now Raith Rovers have similar concerns.

Ordinarily the Fife club would hand over a ticket allocation to Rangers who would then sell on to their own fans before reimbursing Rovers at a later date.

However, the Stark’s Park club are worried Rangers may find themselves unable to fulfil their financial obligations due to the ongoing turmoil at the club.

Rangers required an emergency loan of £500,000 from director Sandy Easdale to avoid being wound up by HMRC earlier this month.

The club have since made it clear further funds are urgently required, with Mike Ashley enraging Gers fans by offering a loan of £10million using Ibrox and Murray Park as security .

As a result of the continuing uncertainty Raith have decided to ditch the normal conventions and will sell the tickets directly.

A Rangers spokesperson said: “The club are in discussions with Raith Rovers on this matter.”


Well done Rovers. Stick to your guns.

Well said. The Rangers are a bunch of ’s

[greenginger]

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...1&newsID=14197


Now their goalie has been charged with betting on football matches.

[HoboHarry]

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http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...1&newsID=14197


Now their goalie has been charged with betting on football matches.

Lol. Maybe he was a runner for Ian black. Har de har har....

[worcesterhibby]

Interesting to see that Raith Rovers are selling tickets direct to Rangers fans, rather than via the club as they are concerned about getting paid. I wonder if we will get the payment for the 4-0 game in a timely manner from Rangers and if we will consider selling direct to fans for the match due to take place at ER on 21st march

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30946702

I believe payments are due about a month following the match so we should be getting paid by Rangers in the next week or so. Alloa should have been paid by Rangers for their away tickets for their 10th January match about 10 days ago..I wonder if they are still waiting and have tipped off Raith about the problem ??

[grunt]

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Alloa should have been paid by Rangers for their away tickets for their 10th January match about 10 days ago..I wonder if they are still waiting and have tipped off Raith about the problem ??

That's what journalists are for, to find out these things.

[worcesterhibby]

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That's what journalists are for, to find out these things.

No journalists are generally there to feed whatever line they get from agents, and Rangers and Hearts.

[bingo70]

See that they've confirmed that ibrox won't be getting used as security now. I'd have thought that means the loan from Ashley is off but some journalist from the BBC, Alasdair Lamont, has just tweeted the opposite and now thinks the loan is imminent.

Anyone able to explain that?

[greenginger]

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See that they've confirmed that ibrox won't be getting used as security now. I'd have thought that means the loan from Ashley is off but some journalist from the BBC, Alasdair Lamont, has just tweeted the opposite and now thinks the loan is imminent.

Anyone able to explain that?

Well there was a story going about a few weeks ago that Rangers did not have clear title to Ibrox , so it could not be used for security, but that I'm sure was just nasty Rangers haters at it !

A smaller loan and the training ground as security maybe.

[Bostonhibby]

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Well there was a story going about a few weeks ago that Rangers did not have clear title to Ibrox , so it could not be used for security, but that I'm sure was just nasty Rangers haters at it !

A smaller loan and the training ground as security maybe.

What, a charge over it from some dodgy off shore trust? surely not? not when the club has passed through such fit and proper hands as Cheeky Charlie Green and Craig Whyte, to name but a few

[PatHead]

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What, a charge over it from some dodgy off shore trust? surely not? not when the club has passed through such fit and proper hands as Cheeky Charlie Green and Craig Whyte, to name but a few

Don't forget the original David Murray.

[Bostonhibby]

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Don't forget the original David Murray.

Keep em coming

[greenginger]

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...hley-debenhams

Looks like Ashleys cash raising was not to provide Ranger's manager with a warcheast.

Oops, forgot they've not got a manager.

[Ronniekirk]

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http://www.theguardian.com/business/...hley-debenhams

Looks like Ashleys cash raising was not to provide Ranger's manager with a warcheast.

Oops, forgot they've not got a manager.

Maybe he wants to have Rocha J Rocha design Thier new Strip and sell them in Debenhams

[Bostonhibby]

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http://www.theguardian.com/business/...hley-debenhams

Looks like Ashleys cash raising was not to provide Ranger's manager with a warcheast.

Oops, forgot they've not got a manager.

They've been a target of his before - maybe proof to the sevconian hordes that big Mike doesn't do walking away?

[greenginger]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30989922


Ashley taking the p*** out of football authorities.

Their lawyers need more time to build their case.