Falkirk 1 - 0 Hibernian [FT]

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 06-12-2014 04:55 PM

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Good result at Alloa, Cowdenbeath, Livi, Ibrox, Dumbarton.

Draws at home to Dumbarton, Hearts (played well should've won), QoS (Played okay, main threat missing) Raith.

Lost once at home? It's not that bad.. Draws will kill us but our main goal scoring threat got a serious injury not long into the season.

El alaguis injury's becoming an easy excuse. How many more would he have scored than his replacement?

***SaulGoodman*** · 06-12-2014 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Bobo

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Why, because they can overcome teams like Alloa, Cowdenbeath and Dumbarton by the odd goal? It's hardly anything to crow about!

I'll post when I want to post, win lose or otherwise but after suffering season upon season of utter dross the Saturday night moan has almost become a permenant fixture! Nothing's changed, even in this p!ss poor league as we still consistently underachieve and fail to perform despite the standard of opposition. It's far from good enough for my liking.

We actually beat Dumbarton by 3 clear goals.. We also beat Rangers 3-1 and should've beat Hearts (who are so often bugged up on here) we also beat Livi by 4 goals and put 3 past a good Utd team in the cup.

You can post whenever you like of course, I'm just saying a quick look at your recent post history shows a worrying pattern.

***SaulGoodman*** · 06-12-2014 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

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El alaguis injury's becoming an easy excuse. How many more would he have scored than his replacement?

An easy excuse?

How can I answer that? You're grasping at straws now.

***marinello59*** · 06-12-2014 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by HFCDaveA

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He isn't wrong though Matty. We are not good enough, we are not in the top flight where simply not losing is usually good enough. We are in the championship that we should be aiming to win, we need to be winning nearly every game. If you want to win a league or challenge at the top, draws are not goo enough let alone defeats. We simply are not winning enough games.

Whether we like it or not, hearts have set the benchmark. We are miles behind! We set out hoping to challenge for the title, thats blown clean out the water, now we are focussing on hoping to reach the play off spots, which is not a given if we don't win consistently. Remember we have more resources than all the clubs apart from rangers and hearts yet we don't look like it.

I don't know about you but struggling to win games and struggling to gain promotion isn't good enough IMO. In the space of a few years we have gone from having expectations of getting into Europe, making top 6, avoiding relegation, winning the championship to getting a play off spot. If the fan keep lowering expectations then what drives the club?

Hibs, not challenging for the championship title, isn't good enough.

That's a cracker, the fans are lowering expectations? Given the mess Dastardly and Muttley left us in we had a much harder task ahead on us than our two biggest rivals. That's not lowering expectations, that's realism. It looks like the title has gone bit I expect us to still keep trying to get closer to the top. I still reckon we will make it through the play offs if required against anybody. The fans can take no blame for the position we are in, blaming them in any way is utter nonsense.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 06-12-2014 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by MehHFC

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An easy excuse?

How can I answer that? You're grasping at straws now.

I don't think so. We replaced him with somehow who's nearly a goal a game?! Unless we expect el alagui to score more than that we'd still be "struggling" even if he was playing?

***SneakersO'Toole*** · 06-12-2014 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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Thats it in a nutshell. Because you don't wallow in the negativity you can't see the problems apparently so need to be told again and again and again.

Or to look at it another way, posters make justified and realistic comments (like the Handling thread) and get shot down for being negative or 'bed wetters'. It can be spun both ways but its the only so called negative posts who are boring and tiresome. The overly positive and unrealistic posts are just as insufferable IMO.

***SaulGoodman*** · 06-12-2014 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

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I don't think so. We replaced him with somehow who's nearly a goal a game?! Unless we expect el alagui to score more than that we'd still be "struggling" even if he was playing?

Not really.

Alagui was very good in the air and brought others into the game more than Malonga does, Malonga is a good goalscorer no doubt but he's not great in the air.

Let's not forget Malonga was missing today as well.

**HappyAsHellas** · 06-12-2014 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by MehHFC

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Good result at Alloa, Cowdenbeath, Livi, Ibrox, Dumbarton.

Draws at home to Dumbarton, Hearts (played well should've won), QoS (Played okay, main threat missing) Raith.

Lost once at home? It's not that bad.. Draws will kill us but our main goal scoring threat got a serious injury not long into the season.

Now now, no need to be bringing positives or reason into this, go stick your head in the oven as we're supposed to.

***silverhibee*** · 06-12-2014 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

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Good result at Alloa but no home wins for ages?

Maybe my standards are too high.

Far too high.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 06-12-2014 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by MehHFC

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Not really.

Alagui was very good in the air and brought others into the game more than Malonga does, Malonga is a good goalscorer no doubt but he's not great in the air.

Let's not forget Malonga was missing today as well.

Agree - we're a bit over reliant on one player.

Nee the midfield to pop a goal in every now and again. Scott Allan gets rave reviews (rightly although some are ott) but we need to look to him to dig us out on days like today. I felt the same at the Qots game a few weeks back.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 06-12-2014 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas

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Now now, no need to be bringing positives or reason into this, go stick your head in the oven as we're supposed to.

This is an example of the extremes people go to on message boards.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 06-12-2014 05:07 PM

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This is an example of the extremes people go to on message boards.

Just burnt my ear on the grill.

***Bobo*** · 06-12-2014 05:09 PM

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We actually beat Dumbarton by 3 clear goals.. We also beat Rangers 3-1 and should've beat Hearts (who are so often bugged up on here) we also beat Livi by 4 goals and put 3 past a good Utd team in the cup.

You can post whenever you like of course, I'm just saying a quick look at your recent post history shows a worrying pattern.

I'm aware that we've won 3 of our 20 competitive matches by more than 1 goal, performing really well at Ibrox and, but for a fluke goal, should have beat the Meriricks in the Derby but we need to do that and raise our determination against the stuffy teams not just those who are perceived to be bigger.

Gum beating about losing games is not something I like and is a worrying pattern but the only way to vent frustration at another Saturday night / weekend being ruined! I've watched Hibs for 40+ years (35 as a season ticket holder) and I so wish, like everyone else, that I could give the last 7 of them back! 

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 06-12-2014 05:14 PM

Oh well, I said yesterday I would be happy with a point, but denied at the end. Shame the wee unbeaten run couldn't continue.

19 points behind the tramps after 15 games is depressing.

**HappyAsHellas** · 06-12-2014 05:17 PM

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Oh well, I said yesterday I would be happy with a point, but denied at the end. Shame the wee unbeaten run couldn't continue.

19 points behind the tramps after 15 games is depressing.

But not the end of the world.....

**Thecat23** · 06-12-2014 05:18 PM

Hibs were never in a million years scoring today. Heff up front says it all. Without Malonga we are poor up too. Need Farid back but he's still a fair bit off!

Shows how poor we actually are as a squad as Falkirk are rotten as well. I'd be interested to hear how Handling and Stanton played. I wasn't there but I'll go out on a limb and say bang average?

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 06-12-2014 05:19 PM

when's McGeouch back, we badly miss the laddie

***blackpoolhibs*** · 06-12-2014 05:22 PM

Every club has injuries and suspensions, but whats the point in beating The Rangers 3-1 if Falkirk then do the double over us?

**Lago** · 06-12-2014 05:22 PM

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Its not a disaster ... but we are far from cemented into the top 4 and we need to start putting points on the board at home. IMO we need a striker who can win high balls in the box so we can mix it up a bit.

Time for Handling and Cummings to take a look at themselves too .... their goals return is pitiful, are they good enough for this league or not?

There is something unconvincing about this hibs team even when they win its a stagger over the line.

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 06-12-2014 05:25 PM

cummings taken of at HT, if it wasn't an injury i can see him getting dropped next week

***lucky*** · 06-12-2014 05:33 PM

I'm disappointed but always believed we would be in the play offs. The fact we are fourth is made worse Hearts are running away with the league. Hibs have a small squad missing the two strikers and two midfielders had impact on the team today. I'm hoping that all will be fit for the run in.

**Lago** · 06-12-2014 05:39 PM

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Every club has injuries and suspensions, but whats the point in beating The Rangers 3-1 if Falkirk then do the double over us?

You hit the nail on the head.

**Ronniekirk** · 06-12-2014 05:43 PM

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Tom English can GTF. We have problems up front but were unbeaten in how many games? We're allowed an off day.

I take it this will now be a feeding frenzy/the end of the world.

Only if you take the bait and I don't see many Sharks circling

**HFC 0-7** · 06-12-2014 05:43 PM

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That's a cracker, the fans are lowering expectations? Given the mess Dastardly and Muttley left us in we had a much harder task ahead on us than our two biggest rivals. That's not lowering expectations, that's realism. It looks like the title has gone bit I expect us to still keep trying to get closer to the top. I still reckon we will make it through the play offs if required against anybody. The fans can take no blame for the position we are in, blaming them in any way is utter nonsense.

Sorry, I meant to say are forced to lower.

We are forced to lower expectations but right now we are shouting at the press who are saying we are not good enough. We are not good enough and the fans are defending where we are. Do you not think we have been pretty quick in changing our expectations of challenging for the title to hoping we can make play offs? Other teams wouldn't accept our league position and stuttering performances in the championship but we do. I know that Stubbs had to work quickly to assemble a squad, I know he inherited a mess, but a club the size of hibs should not be where we are and anyone in the press describing our current situation as not good enough is correct.

I definately don't think the fans are to blame but as a group I think we should expect and deman better. Things are improving but IMO it's too slowly. We have more resources than the other teams bar rangers yet you can't look at hibs side vs a raith, Alloa or Dumbarton and see that hibs are actually the 4th or 5th biggest club in Scotland!

**greengnome** · 06-12-2014 05:44 PM

Looking at the table tonight, I am very worried that we are going to be sucked back into a fight for the play offs.

We are in the situation we are through ignorance at board level, and bad management in the past. I sincerely hope that Stubbs can work a miracle, but I fear that may we still be in the championship next season, this will have a devastating effect on our club.
All the teams are scrapping to get promotion, we are one of many, and any thoughts that we will automatically get into a play off place, will mean getting results at home as well as away... Can this be done??

Thoughts???

**Ronniekirk** · 06-12-2014 05:46 PM

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when's McGeouch back, we badly miss the laddie

Not seen anything official on his operation and recovery so don't know is the answer Originally I think they said a few weeks and someone on here posted four months but there was nothing to back this up .However he isn't a prolific scorer iether so may not have solved problem today

**Turkish Green** · 06-12-2014 05:49 PM

I have tempered my views to Hibs only needing to finish in a Play-off place.

We should have at least taken a draw today and thereby kept 5 pts ahead of Falkirk, while a win would have put us in 3rd equal place. But with QOTS and Raith both losing the damage is not so bad.

4 teams fighting for 3rd and 4th place.

***Hermit Crab*** · 06-12-2014 05:51 PM

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Not even on the bench, hearing he is far from happy but with the sordid revelations that came through last week it's hardly surprising he wasn't quoted today.

Come on home wee man....

No danger. Cup tied now anyway

***blackpoolhibs*** · 06-12-2014 05:52 PM

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I have tempered my views to Hibs only needing to finish in a Play-off place.

We should have at least taken a draw today and thereby kept 5 pts ahead of Falkirk, while a win would have put us in 3rd equal place. But with QOTS and Raith both losing the damage is not so bad.

4 teams fighting for 3rd and 4th place.