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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    Maybe not, but it's quite possible that values will drop and without a stable currency then who can say? The SNP certainly can't. It's a worst case scenario for me (practically at least). I have no confidence in the idea of indenpendence and, if not for some interests left in Scotland, I wouldn't even care and it would actually be funny if it was a disaster - not for the people that didn't want it obviously and couldn't leave. And not even for the people that did want it...

    I suppose if it's a yes vote it could potentially be a bit like watching a disaster film where you really care about some of the characters.
    How is it any more possible that values will drop than they will rise? There will continue to be the same market, for rentals and for buying, that there is at the moment. Those will remain constant no matter what Government we have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SouterHibby View Post
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    Of course you can't be a true scot if you vote no.how could you be ??
    You're just being silly.

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    Of course you can't be a true scot if you vote no.how could you be ??
    Your view is only valid if being a true Scot means being clinically ******ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    Your view is only valid if being a true Scot means being clinically ******ed.
    And that's just as silly

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    And that's just as silly
    Well at least you're consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    Well at least you're consistent.
    Thank you

    Back to my question about property?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouterHibby View Post
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    Of course you can't be a true scot if you vote no.how could you be ??
    Extremely ignorant and narrow minded. Is this the reason you're voting yes? So you can feel like a 'true scot'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyJo View Post
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    Tell you what, I'll give you £1000 for your flat on Friday if it's a yes vote then?

    Save you having to hang onto something that's worthless in a country you don't give a s**t about.
    Pure class mate .I will also pay £1000 per house from any of you no votes plus a free taxi to Berwick

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    Tell you what, I'll give you £1000 for your flat on Friday if it's a yes vote then?

    Save you having to hang onto something that's worthless in a country you don't give a s**t about.
    I will raise your bid of 1k to 2000 smackeroonies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    Maybe not, but it's quite possible that values will drop and without a stable currency then who can say? The SNP certainly can't. It's a worst case scenario for me (practically at least). I have no confidence in the idea of indenpendence and, if not for some interests left in Scotland, I wouldn't even care and it would actually be funny if it was a disaster - not for the people that didn't want it obviously and couldn't leave. And not even for the people that did want it...

    I suppose if it's a yes vote it could potentially be a bit like watching a disaster film where you really care about some of the characters.
    Who can say they won't increase. SNP want to increase net migration to expand the workforce, that's a lot of new people looking to buy flats in Scotland.

    For those living in desperate poverty I imagine their current reality is like living a disaster film where they are some of the characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs View Post
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    I will raise your bid of 1k to 2000 smackeroonies

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    Thank you

    Back to my question about property?
    What currency will be used? There has NEVER been an answer that isn't speculation or just complete bull...

    There are a number of people and businesses that do not want to stay in the event of independence that CAN leave. If the place is less desirable for people an businesses then property prices could fall.

    What I do know is that property vales will not fall or rise in a way that is not relative to the rest of the UK / EU / world in the case of a no vote. Independence just adds a number of unnecessary variables and I don't see any of them as positive.

    And what will a property valued in GBP be worth in an imaginary currency. There is no good answer from the nationalists. Continued use of GBP is utter nonsense. What then? They talk utter rubbish about the Euro too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    What currency will be used? There had NEVER been an answer that isn't speculation or just complete bull...

    There are a number of people and businesses that do not want to stay in the event of independence that CAN leave. If the place is less desirable for people an businesses then property prices could fall.

    What I do know is that property vales will not fall or rise in a way that is not relative to the rest of the UK / EU / world in the case of a no vote. Independence just adds a number I unnecessary variables and I don't see any of them as positive.

    And what will a property valued in GBP be worth in an imaginary currency. There is no good answer from the nationalists. Continued use of GBP is utter nonsense. What then? They talk utter rubbish about the Euro too.
    You avoided my question :)

    How likely is your scenario to an alternative one where, attracted by rhe lower CT rates, companies move in and thereby push demand up?

    I'd say neither is any.more likely than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouterHibby View Post
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    Pure class mate .I will also pay £1000 per house from any of you no votes plus a free taxi to Berwick
    Can you go to Berwick with them please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs View Post
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    I will raise your bid of 1k to 2000 smackeroonies
    Fine, 2500 nectar points, a packet of hubba bubba and my favourite pen. Final offer




    #persevered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    What currency will be used?
    The pound. Hope this helps.

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    Tell you what, I'll give you £1000 for your flat on Friday if it's a yes vote then?

    Save you having to hang onto something that's worthless in a country you don't give a s**t about.
    Can't. It's currently rented. Maybe later but if you can pay the mortgage (I wonder what the interest rates will be like???) off too I'll take 1000 pounds anytime. One less thing to give a s**t about in the place. Sounds good to me. I'd gladly ditch it for no profit. Unfortunately your 1000 pounds won't really help my family and friends that remain there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    It's pretty worrying for a lot of people in Scotland that have worked hard and lived well only to have the risk of things being destroyed by a small minded nationalist movement backed up by ifs buts and maybes.

    Fortunately for me I live overseas and will not be affected too much, other than my flat in Scotland potentially becoming worthless because SNP dollars (or whatever fictitious currency they want to claim to be able to use next) will not be of any value elsewhere. So I may lose a flat that is currently rented. I wouldn't even mind that so much because it could be worth it just to see the place fall to pieces - it would maybe show other places in the world that nationalism is stupid and worthless.

    Sadly I still have family and friends in Scotland that may have to suffer the consequences directly. If I was there I'd vote no. And if a yes vote happened I'd be leaving anyway. But I'm fortunate that way - it's not a viable option for a lot of people.
    To be honest I didn't think some of the daft posts on this thread could be surpassed.

    That is an absolute belter.

    Wow! Just wow!!

    I'm sure you've given supporters of both sides a really good laugh.

    Let us know how you get on with the Darwin Awards later this year.
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    To be honest I didn't think some of the daft posts on this thread could be surpassed.

    That is an absolute belter.

    Wow! Just wow!!

    I'm sure you've given supporters of both sides a really good laugh.

    Let us know how you get on with the Darwin Awards later this year.
    Ultimately it doesn't really matter. Other than the few things I've mentioned it's really not my problem. It might be like a slightly disturbing film if it goes bad but, living overseas, I can always change the channel.

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    The pound. Hope this helps.
    Yeah good luck with that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    Yeah good luck with that...
    Luck won't be needed. A currency union will be the first thing to be agreed post-yes, because it doesn't make any sense for either side not to have one.

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    Fine, 2500 nectar points, a packet of hubba bubba and my favourite pen. Final offer
    Ach you win, how am I to better that offer? Maybe we put the offers as one and be better together ?

    I'll get my coat.

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    Luck won't be needed. A currency union will be the first thing to be agreed post-yes, because it doesn't make any sense for either side not to have one.
    I think the UK government would beg to differ on that one. But they won't have to beg - they will just decide and that will be the end of the discussion. Scotland will not have any control whatsoever. Just like we have no control over USD, NOK or any other currency that belongs to another country...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    I think the UK government would beg to differ on that one. But they won't have to beg - they will just decide and that will be the end of the discussion. Scotland will not have any control whatsoever. Just like we have no control over USD, NOK or any other currency that belongs to another country...
    It doesn't belong to another country though. It belongs to Scotland just as much as the rest of the UK and will be negotiated on like everything else.

    First day of negotiation:

    Let's agree a currency union.

    No.

    Ok then, if you could pick up your nuclear weapons by next Tuesday that'd be appreciated.

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    It doesn't belong to another country though. It belongs to Scotland just as much as the rest of the UK and will be negotiated on like everything else.

    First day of negotiation:

    Let's agree a currency union.

    No.

    Ok then, if you could pick up your nuclear weapons by next Tuesday that'd be appreciated.
    Horse manure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    Horse manure!
    Ok then.

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    Ok then.
    Good point well made. Whatever, bury your head in the sand. I hope for the sake of you and everyone else living in Scotland it's a No vote, even although you will be initially upset and bitter - no change there then.

    But if it's a Yes vote it'll be your problem to deal with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_HFC View Post
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    Good point well made. Whatever, bury your head in the sand. I hope for the sake of you and everyone else living in Scotland it's a No vote, even although you will be initially upset and bitter - no change there then.

    But if it's a Yes vote it'll be your problem to deal with...
    You've yet to answer my previous point, other than shouting "Horse Manure!"

    Upset and bitter? You know nothing about me.

    Your intervention late on in this thread is a bit like the three amigos (plus Farage) scrambling up to Scotland at the last minute because they realise it's not going their way.

    You've already said it doesn't affect you so you don't really care. Lots of people in Scotland do though, and more than half of them will vote to put this country's future in our own hands.

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    [QUOTE=Colonel_HFC;4166374]Good point well made. Whatever, bury your head in the sand. I hope for the sake of you and everyone else living in Scotland it's a No vote, even although you will be initially upset and bitter - no change there then.

    But if it's a Yes vote it'll be your problem to deal with...[/QUOTE

    Do you live in Scotland?

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    Good point well made. Whatever, bury your head in the sand. I hope for the sake of you and everyone else living in Scotland it's a No vote, even although you will be initially upset and bitter - no change there then.

    But if it's a Yes vote it'll be your problem to deal with...[/QUOTE

    Do you live in Scotland?
    No. I said I lived overseas.

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