Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[Biggie]

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He should have stayed out of it, he should have stayed out of it with Rangers and Dunfermline as well. In the case of Hearts they have stiffed taxpayers in the UK and in Lithuania. there is also a lot of suspicion that the CVA isnt best value for creditors if tynecastle can be sold for more than 2.5 million. Anyone with half a brain would also suspect that there could have bee dirty money going through hearts whilst romanov was at the helm and here we have the first minister trying to help 'facilitate' the deal that would see hearts write off a mountain of debt.

I would be more impressed if the first minister was doing more to make sure football clubs actually paid their taxes, paid other government funded business and paid the small business that have been left unpaid whilst clubs go into administration.

I may be wrong but I cant remember the first minister being very vocal about hearts when they were not paying their taxes.

So we have this man helping a club that has failed to pay millions in taxes, thousands to heriot watt, thousands to small businesses, thousands to charities. A club that has been financially doped helping to cause a bank to go bust, probably ruining peoples lives in lithuania. Trying to push through a deal that has many question marks over best value for creditors!

Brilliant. I'm going to take this mate...

[haagsehibby]

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It should be in the fridge for 8 hours at least, although half an hour in a full ice bucket will do the same thing.

Interestingly, you should always drink champagne within 2 - 3 years of buying it.

The 2-3 year thing is generally for non-vintage champagne. Your Dom Perignon etc. will last longer if properly cellared.

[CB_NO3]

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STV news reported that UBIG are to meet later this week. Sounded like a crock to me.

UBIG have already approved their part of the CVA. No reason for them to meet.

[Seveno]

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The 2-3 year thing is generally for non-vintage champagne. Your Dom Perignon etc. will last longer if properly cellared.

I guess it is a reason to splash out.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Ubig? You sure?

Im afraid I'm not sure. I was half listening to the news, and half heard them say something about a creditors meeting this week to approve the transfer of shares. Sorry, that information is useless I know, but there was definitely something about a meeting this week.

[Onceinawhile]

Thought something might have happened with there being 4 new pages, but nope, just mouth breathers getting angry about Salmond.

As an aside, can we please keep Big L out of this? He deserves to RIP.

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[ACLeith]

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OK, Yes I can see that Yes politics shouldn't Yes be on this board and Yes, we are all Yes frustrated by threads Yes going off topic, so let's continue Yes to keep this to all things Hearts.

Yes?

No.... Maybe.... Yes....
Procrastination comes before liquidation, except in the dictionary

[oregonhibby]

Procrastination, more after the break

[PapillonVert]

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Thought something might have happened with there being 4 new pages, but nope, just mouth breathers getting angry about Salmond.

As an aside, can we please keep Big L out of this? He deserves to RIP.

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Exactly, Antwerp!

Crikey, men always say women gas on and waste time but, give me strength, nothing can beat this!

Complete non-event and waste of time for the past few pages!

[Dashing Bob S]

I'd LOVE to be a major UKIOS creditor right now. "Next week...can't do that as I'm planting my bulbs for next year...the week after I'm taking the dog to the vet for a minor operation, and painting the bathroom...the week after that...hmm... I sure I promised the kids Eurodisney...what about never? Does never work for you guys?"

[greenginger]

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UBIG have already approved their part of the CVA. No reason for them to meet.

I think they will have another thousand reasons to meet, none of them as insignificant as dealing with a grubby little corrupt football team in Scotchland.

[Just Alf]

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I posted earlier on this thread that I had heard that SNP may get involved politically and posed the question to Sergey. I suppose thats not really a surprise but I know there has been another press release for thursday written but dont know the content.

I understand part of the play could be that the cost of upkeep of the stadium after liquidation could be very expensive and perhaps a simple demolition is not as easy as we think. This cost if true could be a persuasive reason why they should accept the bid.

I have no inside information but would think that this could be quite a clever play by suggesting that the costs may spiral so better to take the money now?

Can this be substantiated by Sergey as I hope this doesnt happen.

No worries on that score, the 3 "newer" stands were specifically engineered to allow for easy dismantling at some point in the future.... I can't remember if the idea was for the Yams to re-use the steels at a new site or if the intention was to sell the stands on.

[Jim44]

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He should have stayed out of it, he should have stayed out of it with Rangers and Dunfermline as well. In the case of Hearts they have stiffed taxpayers in the UK and in Lithuania. there is also a lot of suspicion that the CVA isnt best value for creditors if tynecastle can be sold for more than 2.5 million. Anyone with half a brain would also suspect that there could have bee dirty money going through hearts whilst romanov was at the helm and here we have the first minister trying to help 'facilitate' the deal that would see hearts write off a mountain of debt.

I would be more impressed if the first minister was doing more to make sure football clubs actually paid their taxes, paid other government funded business and paid the small business that have been left unpaid whilst clubs go into administration.

I may be wrong but I cant remember the first minister being very vocal about hearts when they were not paying their taxes on time.

So we have this man helping a club that has failed to pay millions in taxes, thousands to heriot watt, thousands to small businesses, thousands to charities. A club that has been financially doped helping to cause a bank to go bust, probably ruining peoples lives in lithuania. Trying to push through a deal that has many question marks over best value for creditors!

Couldn't have put it better myself. I know folk are frustrated with the political references here but I find it hard to ignore it. I couldn't care less about the 'independence' issue but I am sickened by the immorality, verging on criminal negligence of this despicable being, for exactly the reasons outlined above.

[Albion Hibs]

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Laughable he's just a power hungry scrote. How can he try to save a thieving, morally bankrupt company that has stolen from people that are going to vote. Beggers belief, what about people that have lost jobs. Perhaps he's trying plan b for currency and start trading in Lithuanian litas. Muppet

Agreed. On the taxpayers dime he is spending his time supporting an organisation that has ripped off his government and one of his local authorities...somewhat ironic.

He is however well suited to being one of them, no concept of money, more pipe dreams than you can shake a stick at and facts are irrelevant to him. Would not surprise me if he ran round holyrood referring to them as the "big team" of scottish politics.

[Kato]

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No worries on that score, the 3 "newer" stands were specifically engineered to allow for easy dismantling at some point in the future....

.....and they call us gypsies.

What a cranky bunch.

[portycabbage]

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Procrastination, more after the break

"What do we want?!"
"PROCRASTINATION!"
"When do we want it?!"
"NEXT WEEK!"

[jakeshibs]

I just want them to get wants coming to them and to pay for the years of living beyond their means, champagne is ready, we will have the last laugh! big L is getting closer..

[monktonharp]

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He is however well suited to being one of them, no concept of money, more pipe dreams than you can shake a stick at and facts are irrelevant to him. Would not surprise me if he ran round holyrood referring to them as the "big team" of scottish politics.

before anymore is said about the current First Minister of Scotland, he has a duty to try and "save" another fitba' club from going down the tubes. this is not the way I want it to happen, but he does have a "duty" to try and retrieve a bad situation for Scottish Football. he did exactly the same, while trying to do it for 2 other football clubs. he does happen to be a "fan" of the current Scottish club in crisis. I hope any effort he makes,fails miserably. despite his allegiance to another team, I will retain my views on being vehemently involved and committed to an Independent Scottish State, which hopefully will, in my lifetime return to the socialist values I was brought up with and still hold. the current First Minister will not be in the grand plan of things,IMHO. and hopefully the likes of who consisted of the Edinburgh Council dominated by Councillors who aligned themselves with jambo thinking businessmen, (because of the team they supported) will not be in those positions either. those were the people that gave free reign, to hmfc, and "used" a whole end of tynecastle for storage, on behalf of the council. an end which was never used for storage, but prevented demololition, and secured monies for that club.those were the men that stopped Farmer, from building on the butterfly section of Easter Road, thereby slowing the completion of our ground. those were the men , pictured while drinking buckfast when the hmfc celebrated winning cups outside the city chambers. those same men are the ones that try and tell the people of Scotland that we are better together.and Foulkes is one of them

[Albion Hibs]

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before anymore is said about the current First Minister of Scotland, he has a duty to try and "save" another fitba' club from going down the tubes. this is not the way I want it to happen, but he does have a "duty" to try and retrieve a bad situation for Scottish Football. he did exactly the same, while trying to do it for 2 other football clubs. he does happen to be a "fan" of the current Scottish club in crisis. I hope any effort he makes,fails miserably. despite his allegiance to another team, I will retain my views on being vehemently involved and committed to an Independent Scottish State, which hopefully will, in my lifetime return to the socialist values I was brought up with and still hold. the current First Minister will not be in the grand plan of things,IMHO. and hopefully the likes of who consisted of the Edinburgh Council dominated by Councillors who aligned themselves with jambo thinking businessmen, (because of the team they supported) will not be in those positions either. those were the people that gave free reign, to hmfc, and "used" a whole end of tynecastle for storage, on behalf of the council. an end which was never used for storage, but prevented demololition, and secured monies for that club.those were the men that stopped Farmer, from building on the butterfly section of Easter Road, thereby slowing the completion of our ground. those were the men , pictured while drinking buckfast when the hmfc celebrated winning cups outside the city chambers. those same men are the ones that try and tell the people of Scotland that we are better together.and Foulkes is one of them

you stopped short of using the word "scaremongering"!! This political chat is boring me. If the tubby yam spent as much time as this on every business in Scotland that was struggling, this country would be a better place...but he has not. He has however done it for hearts. What you want from a government does not really bother me, as a hibs fan and a council tax payer I am bothered by how are so called FM has used the time which I am paying for, as a council supporting, hibs supporting person. As both of these things I also lost out when they cheated financially to gain as a football team, and i don't support that.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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you stopped short of using the word "scaremongering"!! This political chat is boring me. If the tubby yam spent as much time as this on every business in Scotland that was struggling, this country would be a better place...but he has not. He has however done it for hearts. What you want from a government does not really bother me, as a hibs fan and a council tax payer I am bothered by how are so called FM has used the time which I am paying for, as a council supporting, hibs supporting person. As both of these things I also lost out when they cheated financially to gain as a football team, and i don't support that.

Thanks for that non political slant on this tedious distraction.

[bighairyfaeleith]

So no meeting today then?

Given Catholicism is pretty big in Lithuania* I would assume they will have a shut down for Easter so unless there is a meeting tomorrow** I would guess it will be next week at the earliest. Getting quite close to the end of april.

*According to Wikipedia, I have no insiders in the Lithuanian church

**highly ****ing unlikely

[greenpaper55]

I thought we were going to stop all this political talk on here ?, plenty of other forums for that kind of thing. Still no news from Lithuania and a wee quote from the Hootsmans article this morning "Salmond, a Hearts supporter, remains hopeful that the deal can be completed, although last night both club administrator Bryan Jackson of BDO and a spokesperson for the Foundation of Hearts said there had been no further developments."

Good, lets hope it stays that way.

[Winston Ingram]

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No worries on that score, the 3 "newer" stands were specifically engineered to allow for easy dismantling at some point in the future.... I can't remember if the idea was for the Yams to re-use the steels at a new site or if the intention was to sell the stands on.

Judging by the state of them, they're doing a good job of dismantling themselves

[BarneyK]

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you stopped short of using the word "scaremongering"!! This political chat is boring me. If the tubby yam spent as much time as this on every business in Scotland that was struggling, this country would be a better place...but he has not. He has however done it for hearts. What you want from a government does not really bother me, as a hibs fan and a council tax payer I am bothered by how are so called FM has used the time which I am paying for, as a council supporting, hibs supporting person. As both of these things I also lost out when they cheated financially to gain as a football team, and i don't support that.

This story started out as him jetting off to Lithuania to sort it out didn't it. In reality though it turns out that all he did was make a wee phone call to the Lithuanian ambassador. Might it be possible that he made this phone call on his down time, or does he not get any of that on the wage you pay him? You're a hard task master.

[Ronniekirk]

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So no meeting today then?

Given Catholicism is pretty big in Lithuania* I would assume they will have a shut down for Easter so unless there is a meeting tomorrow** I would guess it will be next week at the earliest. Getting quite close to the end of april.

*According to Wikipedia, I have no insiders in the Lithuanian church

**highly ****ing unlikely

The more Political Interferance the more they then need to further Procastinate and then Ruminate .its just now adding to the delay Yes we are heading for Easter Time , so I guess the Politiicians are just trying to Egg them on into making a decision .But Inertia seems to be the name of the game just now .Presumably someone has told the Liths that there is a date by which a meeting needs to take place that would be interesting to know what that date is as think the Liths are enjoying all this attention and will take it right to the wire But at some point a date will pass that sees the Big L a mere formality .
You would of thought all this would of been in that Memorandum of Understanding which appears not to have been a shared understanding by all parties after all .
It's an interesting Polemic Juxtaposition ,can't understand why folk find it Tedious

[Waxy]

If the ukio vote does pass, will that be BDOs involvement finished? Even if the courts wont unfreeze the shares?

[Jim44]

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This story started out as him jetting off to Lithuania to sort it out didn't it. In reality though it turns out that all he did was make a wee phone call to the Lithuanian ambassador. Might it be possible that he made this phone call on his down time, or does he not get any of that on the wage you pay him? You're a hard task master.

If he possibly intervened, say as an individual in his ' down time', why then splash it over the national press? And before we get the 'keep politics out of this debate', I would say that his involvement is very relevant to this thread. If and when we learn that his contribution to their cause was instrumental in it's success, I'm sure there will be no objections to heated debate about it.

[hibbypostie]

it could be their final pay day today

[BarneyK]

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If he possibly intervened, say as an individual in his ' down time', why then splash it over the national press? And before we get the 'keep politics out of this debate', I would say that his involvement is very relevant to this thread. If and when we learn that his contribution to their cause was instrumental in it's success, I'm sure there will be no objections to heated debate about it.

Because he's a jambo and wants to be seen as having tried. The fact that they have felt the need to ask him to do this is surely suggestive that all is indeed not well as far as FOH/BDO are concerned. If anything it's a positive sign for those that want them dead that he has felt the need to intervene. IMO he will have no real influence in the process, if they finally get their CVA agreed it will be down to many other factors and not Alex Salmond.

[Saorsa]

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If he possibly intervened, say as an individual in his ' down time', why then splash it over the national press? And before we get the 'keep politics out of this debate', I would say that his involvement is very relevant to this thread. If and when we learn that his contribution to their cause was instrumental in it's success, I'm sure there will be no objections to heated debate about it.

Because sensationalism is what they do? Imagine them blowing anything out of proportion and making it in tae a big story, that would never happen. particularly as none of them have ever reported honestly on this story, only good news stories and cheer leading and how they are the poor wee victims and the bad man did it and ran away. Most of what they have reported has subsequently turned out tae be a lot of complete and utter load of tosh.


Ukio: creditors wake from their slumber and get up and have breakfast

allisbarry: deal just needs rubber stamped.





now can we keep on topic?