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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

    171 11.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprouleflyer View Post
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    Is there anything we as a fan base can do to help Hearts?
    Get STF to buy them for the community, and send Rod Petrie in to run it for him. Nah i know, they are not that bloody desperate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    Well, I don't know about anybody else but that's cleared that up for m


    Them's the rules mate

    As it is, the board can make up their own decisions as their's a cover your erchie rule too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    I see even #allisbarry is now saying their chances of survival are only 50-50.


    Event: Hearts liquidated and Tyncastle bulldozed to build a new Tesco

    #allisbarry: "Hearts chances of survival now rated at 40-60"
    Interesting if true that the 'token' payment for UBIG's shares is now £100k. Lithuanians just need to keep turning the screw...

    Wonder if I am an MP has now realised what a total mess he's involved with? Those dreams of stepping out onto the Tynecastle pitch and being given the full 'Mister' treatment by the forelock tuggers look less and less like reality now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprouleflyer View Post
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    Is there anything we as a fan base can do to help Hearts?
    Actually, I think that may p!ss off the Jumbos more than anything we have ever done. If Hibs fans started to do something organised to save them (no, not more cakes) and perhaps just came up short then they wouldn't even be able to slag us off for that.

    How about a sponsored walk to the first game of the new season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperAllyMcleod View Post
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    Actually, I think that may p!ss off the Jumbos more than anything we have ever done. If Hibs fans started to do something organised to save them (no, not more cakes) and perhaps just came up short then they wouldn't even be able to slag us off for that.

    How about a sponsored walk to the first game of the new season?
    We could always gift them another three points. Would that help?

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    We could always gift them another three points. Would that help?
    No, we've done that twice already and they are still in a mess.

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    What astounds me in all of this is the constant lying.

    "We'll be fan owned"
    Yes for 5 minutes and then you'll be owned by Budge

    "We'll be debt free"
    Yes, for 5 minutes but then you'll owe Budge a significant sum

    "UKIO will get nothing if they don't agree to the CVA"
    They'll get the money raised from liquidation which could be considerably more.

    "We've never complained"
    Apart from the constant complaining that is?

    "Best youngsters in Scotland"
    This one is obvious

    "The points deduction was designed to relegate us"
    Even if you got those 15 points back you'd still be getting relegated.

    "The transfer embargo was designed to relegate us"
    You still signed a player. It's not the SPFL's fault he turned out to be humpty

    "Just needs Rubber stamped"
    Turns out the rubber stamp is for the court appointing a liquidator.

    "Green lights all the way"
    For the court appointed liquidator driving to Tynecastle.

    "In the bag"
    A bag marked: stuff to be sold in liquidation sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    What astounds me in all of this is the constant lying.

    "We'll be fan owned"
    Yes for 5 minutes and then you'll be owned by Budge

    "We'll be debt free"
    Yes, for 5 minutes but then you'll owe Budge a significant sum

    "UKIO will get nothing if they don't agree to the CVA"
    They'll get the money raised from liquidation which could be considerably more.

    "We've never complained"
    Apart from the constant complaining that is?

    "Best youngsters in Scotland"
    This one is obvious

    "The points deduction was designed to relegate us"
    Even if you got those 15 points back you'd still be getting relegated.

    "The transfer embargo was designed to relegate us"
    You still signed a player. It's not the SPFL's fault he turned out to be humpty

    "Just needs Rubber stamped"
    Turns out the rubber stamp is for the court appointing a liquidator.

    "Green lights all the way"
    For the court appointed liquidator driving to Tynecastle.

    "In the bag"
    A bag marked: stuff to be sold in liquidation sale.
    Hi Brian. I see you've referred to the don't accept the cva get no money threat - are you sure that this isn't the case and the MP was lying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    What astounds me in all of this is the constant lying.

    "We'll be fan owned"
    Yes for 5 minutes and then you'll be owned by Budge

    "We'll be debt free"
    Yes, for 5 minutes but then you'll owe Budge a significant sum

    "UKIO will get nothing if they don't agree to the CVA"
    They'll get the money raised from liquidation which could be considerably more.

    "We've never complained"
    Apart from the constant complaining that is?

    "Best youngsters in Scotland"
    This one is obvious

    "The points deduction was designed to relegate us"
    Even if you got those 15 points back you'd still be getting relegated.

    "The transfer embargo was designed to relegate us"
    You still signed a player. It's not the SPFL's fault he turned out to be humpty

    "Just needs Rubber stamped"
    Turns out the rubber stamp is for the court appointing a liquidator.

    "Green lights all the way"
    For the court appointed liquidator driving to Tynecastle.

    "In the bag"
    A bag marked: stuff to be sold in liquidation sale.
    Bravo :D

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    What's actually happening to them? Are they dead yet??

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    Had a wee look at the ticket availability for Hearts v Aberdeen. Highest number of tickets I have noticed available at any game which obviously means an attendance of 13,500 for possibly the last ever game at Tynecastle.

    https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartof...px?itemref=842

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    Hi Brian. I see you've referred to the don't accept the cva get no money threat - are you sure that this isn't the case and the MP was lying?
    Ukio have a security on Tynie so would would get proceeds of any post liquidation sale. Ubig would get nowt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneyK View Post
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    Ukio have a security on Tynie so would would get proceeds of any post liquidation sale. Ubig would get nowt.
    The end of the day the main creditor is the Lith Tax payer. It sounds to me that Ukio/Ubig are working to get the best deal for them.

    Thankfully, that looks like one standing aside to liquidate the whinging ,stingy, cheating thieving bassas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    The end of the day the main creditor is the Lith Tax payer. It sounds to me that Ukio/Ubig are working to get the best deal for them.

    Thankfully, that looks like one standing aside to liquidate the whinging ,stingy, cheating thieving bassas
    Yep, doesn't matter if UKIO or UBIG gets the best deal as the money will end up in the same pot at the end of the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    Yep, doesn't matter if UKIO or UBIG gets the best deal as the money will end up in the same pot at the end of the process.
    Indeed so, Mikey, and this is what my Lithuanian contact in Kaunas had to say when I made her aware of the 'dishonest' allegations that appeared in The Sun.

    oh. well... We have our share of dishonesty - who hasn't? But in this case I do not see how anyone on the LT side can be dishonest by doing or not doing anything. :) Are the LT administrators dishonest in trying to protect the interests of the creditors (and actually LT taxpayers in that, as state has become the biggest creditor of Ukio Bankas after repaying the deposits, and Ukio is in its turn the biggest creditor if UBIG)? Or are the creditors dishonest, who do not agree to just write off the money they are owned and try to salvage as much as they can? :) The only guilty side is Hearts themselves really, it was THEY who run up the debts, they can only ask for those debts to be written off, but they can't be angry or go around blaming others, if somebody does not agree to go into even bigger loss in order to save them.
    I posted this on the PM board this morning and post it again now for all visiting Yams to see.

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    Yep, doesn't matter if UKIO or UBIG gets the best deal as the money will end up in the same pot at the end of the process.
    It always seemed like BJ's biggest achievement was convincing the world at the outset that UKIO and UBIG were "unrelated" parties, in order to let the admin go forward relatively unchallenged at first.

    But as in any well-scripted comedy, the punchline comes laced with a delicious irony.

    When it comes down to brass farthings, it looks like they are entirely related creditors after all. Oh well Brian, nice try old chap, and all that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneyK View Post
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    Ukio have a security on Tynie so would would get proceeds of any post liquidation sale. Ubig would get nowt.
    Unless the sale realises over c.£8m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Unless the sale realises over c.£8m.
    Was wondering about this myself.....so hearts go to liquidation, and they sell tynie for say 10mill example. UKIo get the security 7.9 mill correct?

    Who would get the other 1.9 mil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    What astounds me in all of this is the constant lying.

    Really? Astounded?

    Its the one thing you can bank on with them, that and the stench of self-importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibee87 View Post
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    Was wondering about this myself.....so hearts go to liquidation, and they sell tynie for say 10mill example. UKIo get the security 7.9 mill correct?

    Who would get the other 1.9 mil?
    The liquidators get their fees first, UKIO get the next £6.8m, and the rest is divvied up among the unsecured creditors in proprtion to their claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The liquidators get their fees first, UKIO get the next £6.8m, and the rest is divvied up among the unsecured creditors in proprtion to their claim.
    Of which UKIO and UBIG are the largest, I think followed by HMRC?

    *UKIO are partly secured/partly unsecured IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Really? Astounded?

    Its the one thing you can bank on with them, that and the stench of self-importance.
    Exactly. There whole club is based on lies, corruption and theft. No morals. No class. No shame.

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    They could all stick a euromillions on.Looks like the best realistic chance they have.

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    Really? Astounded?

    Its the one thing you can bank on with them, that and the stench of self-importance.
    Said for comedic effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Said for comedic effect
    As dry as Chick Murray you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    As dry as Chick Murray you.

    As dry as a Yam Well ! could become a common expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxy View Post
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    They could all stick a euromillions on.Looks like the best realistic chance they have.
    knowing their luck, theyd probably win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1875 View Post
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    knowing their luck, theyd probably win.
    True, they are the jammiest ****ers about!

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    The threats have started. Hope you've got a bodyguard Sergey!

    Quote Originally Posted by hearts fud View Post
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    I've thought for a long time that certain actions by Hibs fans, mostly those who have publicly shown their actions on social media may come back to haunt them if the worst comes. If certain members of our support start to get wind that they've been instrumental in our downfall I don't think they'll view it in the humorous manner in which its been treated to date.!

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    Posted this on the PB but I feel everyone should be told....

    Gary has been told it's not 50/50 at all and to expect the worst outcome. Only a miracle of some sort can pull this deal off. They are expected to be told in a meeting before fri.

    Any positive put on in the press is a front. This is from family members and his best mate who I know well. When I asked how bad is bad I was told "we have no more cash and it looks all over" I can't wipe the smile of my face if I'm honest.

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