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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

    171 11.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    They have had some of their SPFL cash already, as have every club. One of the conditions will be that they complete the season. If they don't, it will be repayable :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weststandwanab View Post
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    Concerning for BJ and the Jambos - This is why I think they have to make it to the end of the season, otherwise some funds already received may be recalled.
    Recalled from where? It would be added to the football debt (already standing at £535k) that BIDCO would have to honour if they wanted to participate in the Scottish League.

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    Can you put it in a way I might understand. I'm totally lost. Sorry guys
    Hearts have been given £835k by the SFA/SPFL on the proviso that they complete the 2013/14 season.
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    Recalled from where? It would be added to the football debt (already standing at £535k) that BIDCO would have to honour if they wanted to participate in the Scottish League.



    Hearts have been given £835k by the SFA/SPFL on the proviso that they complete the 2013/14 season.
    Is this not just the usual share that's given to all clubs at the start of the season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nribs View Post
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    Can you put it in a way I might understand. I'm totally lost. Sorry guys
    Sorry please see CropleyWG answer.
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    That's the way I read it.

    In practice, any claw back would be added to the football debt of any Newco :-)
    Indeed but that would be a prolemem and a reason why the M.P. May persuade the didies to fund them when the cash runs out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Is this not just the usual share that's given to all clubs at the start of the season?
    Yes, but Hearts were given it with the proviso that they completed the season. I'm assuming that if they don't complete the season then there will be substantial financial penalties .. possibly in the region of £835k?

    It may well be that this is just a standard proviso for everyone that receives a share, but would be a major incentive for Hearts to get over the finishing line in May.
    But you know it ain't all about wealth,
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieC View Post
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    Yes, but Hearts were given it with the proviso that they completed the season. I'm assuming that if they don't complete the season then there will be substantial financial penalties .. possibly in the region of £835k?

    It may well be that this is just a standard proviso for everyone that receives a share, but would be a major incentive for Hearts to get over the finishing line in May.
    That is the way I read it. When I typed recall I meant someone would be responsible for repaying it in the event of not completing the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weststandwanab View Post
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    That is the way I read it. When I typed recall I meant someone would be responsible for repaying it in the event of not completing the season.
    I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about Hearts.
    But you know it ain't all about wealth,
    as long as you make a note to .. EXPRESS YOURSELF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieC View Post
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    I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about Hearts.
    No apology necessary. I did not make it clear that if that transpires it would be added to football debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weststandwanab View Post
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    Sorry please see CropleyWG answer.
    Indeed but that would be a prolemem and a reason why the M.P. May persuade the didies to fund them when the cash runs out.
    Think it's starting to look that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Dear Mr Gustas

    I write to you as a concerned and ashamed Scotsman to inform you of an attempt by fellow Scottish people to defraud the Republic of Lithuania of many millions of pounds. You are no doubt aware of the plight of Ukio Bankas, UBIG and the dreadful conduct of the major shareholder in both of these companies Vladimir Romanov. But it is another of his ventures, namely his interest in Heart of Midlothian football club in Edinburgh I would like to draw your attention to. Since 2006 Mr Romanov has ploughed many millions of pounds, estimates believed to be as much as £85million, which has now turned out to be money he nor his banking groups could afford to invest, and these concerns raised many times over by the financial and football authorities here in Scotland. These concerns were continually ignored by officials at Hearts and also by their support who were happy to accept the success that has turned out to be the people of your countries money. Please also note that Romanov was refused permission to purchase shares at 2 other clubs. This is because he could not fund the regimes he was looking to put in place. This was ignored by Heart of Midlothian. They operated throughout his tenure with substantial losses which have now come to be at the Lithuanian tax payers expense. I would like to reiterate at this point that they have spent £85 million pounds of your money. I would also like to bring to your attention their failure to pay charities, police costs, healthcare costs and uk taxes owed during this time.
    The current state of affairs at Heart of Midlothian sees them in administration and seeking a deal whereby the shares currently owned by UBIG, Ukio bankas and Ukio Bankas security on Tynecastle stadium in Edinburgh is sold to Bidco for the paltry sum of £2.5million. It is at this point I would like to make you aware of several areas of prime development land in Edinburgh that have sold recently for many millions of pounds over the £2.5million currently being offered to your people. It is at this point I would also say that it is my opinion that you would not be serving the people of Lithuania if you did not recover as much of their money that this organisation has taken with no intention of paying back. I would urge you to seek trustworthy advice on the value of the assets before proceeding with any deal as there is no doubt accepting an offer of £2.5 million is depriving your people of many of millions of pounds.
    Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to apologise for the disgusting way in which this organisation has squandered many millions of pounds of your countries money. I find it totally unacceptable and would urge you to use all of your power in recouping your peoples money. If the tables were turned, it would be the least I would expect of my government. I would also appreciate your thoughts on the issues I have raised and if you are able to, your intentions in the future regarding these.
    I look forward to your reply

    Mr Kevin Moffat

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    Last time I looked the President of Lithuania was a Mrs Dalia Grybauskaitė so even if this is a genuine letter/email then I imagine it will get pretty short shrift if the author can't even get her name (and sex) right.

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberal Hibby View Post
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    Last time I looked the President of Lithuania was a Mrs Dalia Grybauskaitė so even if this is a genuine letter/email then I imagine it will get pretty short shrift if the author can't even get her name (and sex) right.

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html
    Evaldas Gustas is the Minister for the Economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Evaldas Gustas is the Minister for the Economy.
    Ah - thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberal Hibby View Post
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    Ah - thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberal Hibby View Post
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    Last time I looked the President of Lithuania was a Mrs Dalia Grybauskaitė so even if this is a genuine letter/email then I imagine it will get pretty short shrift if the author can't even get her name (and sex) right.

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Think it's starting to look that way
    We will know in a few weeks.

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    Evaldas Gustas is the Minister for the Economy.
    Male or female ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weststandwanab View Post
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    Male or female ?
    Male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weststandwanab View Post
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    That is the way I read it. When I typed recall I meant someone would be responsible for repaying it in the event of not completing the season.
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    I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about Hearts.
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    No apology necessary. I did not make it clear that if that transpires it would be added to football debt.


    Sorry, I was hoping someone else would do it..... Wooooosh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Male.
    Thanks. I think the tipping point will be about the second week in March.

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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

    GGTTH
    We have our own Hibs.net letter-writer who deals with this kind of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton Handling View Post
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    Sorry, I was hoping someone else would do it..... Wooooosh!
    I was tempted to .. but glad someone else did.
    But you know it ain't all about wealth,
    as long as you make a note to .. EXPRESS YOURSELF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

    GGTTH
    Hundreds of thousands? when we are talking that sort of numbers only the yam have that many fans on stand by with their official pens and note books at the ready - why would they want to complain about the deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

    GGTTH

    Your first post was certainly worth the wait!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

    GGTTH
    Worst attempt yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

    HHGH

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

    GGTTH
    Aye ok then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

    GGTTH
    Just wrote to her, she replied to say you're a fud.

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    I'm pished just home and digesting a kebab and I ******* hate hearts fyck em to **** I hope they go bust sooner rather than later I bored of this will they won't they bollocks just die you *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital View Post
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    Just wrote to her, she replied to say you're a fud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoxtonhibby View Post
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    I'm pished just home and digesting a kebab and I ******* hate hearts fyck em to **** I hope they go bust sooner rather than later I bored of this will they won't they bollocks just die you *****
    Yep, you sure are pished.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyP View Post
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    C'mon fellow Hibees, let's make the President aware of the facts. She might ignore one email but not hundreds or thousands of them on the same topic. It's easy to do - have just sent mine - click on this link and get typing!

    http://www.president.lt/en/pirmas_174.html

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