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[SMAXXA]

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Its crazy eh? I'm keeping my powder dry until its official, but, being a local in a pub that has more than its fair share of the deluded ones is magic entertainment! SMAXXA will know where I mean. :-)

Save me a seat at the bar just a soda water for me though am aff the drink

[Springbank]

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A contingency plan isn't needed. It's also not the SPFL's job to get involved with the running of clubs.

If Hearts are unable to fulfil their fixtures the league will be recalculated, with all fixtures against them being void. Another team will be brought in to the bottom of the league structure to replace them and the rest of the teams will shimmy up to make room.

We would hit the top six in that scenario

[portycabbage]

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How TF can Yeovil afford £20m players?

He's obviously taken a wage cut to realise his lifelong dream of playing in a green and white shirt.

[Aldo]

It really wouldn't surprise me if they thought **** it. They've shafted us so let's shaft them and fail to complete our fixtures.

Bear in mind they've brought it all upon themselves.

[Gus Fring]

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It really wouldn't surprise me if they thought **** it. They've shafted us so let's shaft them and fail to complete our fixtures.

Bear in mind they've brought it all upon themselves.

They'd only be shafting themselves. If the failed to complete fixtures they'd be booted out the league and I'm almost certain that means their prize money is distributed to the rest of the clubs. The first time they done it they would be held responsible for costs to the other team.

They wouldn't be daft enough to do it until they were out of the League Cup anyway

[SurferRosa]

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It really wouldn't surprise me if they thought **** it. They've shafted us so let's shaft them and fail to complete our fixtures.

Bear in mind they've brought it all upon themselves.

I`d be quite happy with that.

[Aldo]

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They'd only be shafting themselves. If the failed to complete fixtures they'd be booted out the league and I'm almost certain that means their prize money is distributed to the rest of the clubs. The first time they done it they would be held responsible for costs to the other team. They wouldn't be daft enough to do it until they were out of the League Cup anyway

Your right there Bajillions. It's like every single thing they are doing in recent weeks is plastered all over the place, media and press coverage etc these recent cuts etc are a prime example.

Look at us poor poor us and look what we are having to do now. Having to sack a pensioner blah blah blah.

They are close and with no game at home until 22 or so of Feb there is no income.

They are also desperate to get players in for the SF.

[Sergey]

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A contingency plan isn't needed. It's also not the SPFL's job to get involved with the running of clubs.

If Hearts are unable to fulfil their fixtures the league will be recalculated, with all fixtures against them being void. Another team will be brought in to the bottom of the league structure to replace them and the rest of the teams will shimmy up to make room.

Are you 100% with that?

I seem to recall when Gretna were on the brink that the SPL were talking about their matches being recalculated as 3-0 to their opposition, regardless of previous results.

Of course, with all this euphoria at their demise, I might have dreamt that during a wet dream.

[Aldo]

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Are you 100% with that? I seem to recall when Gretna were on the brink that the SPL were talking about their matches being recalculated as 3-0 to their opposition, regardless of previous results. Of course, with all this euphoria at their demise, I might have dreamt that during a wet dream.

Ha ha.

(Laughing at the last sentence. Cannot bold it)

[Jonnyboy]

Pretty sure I heard Brian Jackson say on STV news that Stevenson might be going but 'we want him to stay obviously.' Thought that was a strange thing for him to say, given his role in this affair

[Aldo]

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Pretty sure I heard Brian Jackson say on STV news that Stevenson might be going but 'we want him to stay obviously.' Thought that was a strange thing for him to say, given his role in this affair

See this is the bit I'm starting to struggle with. I thought BDO were there to run the club and bring in money in order for the club to survive. (That amongst other things)

I have a funny feeling that if the SF had been this weekend and they were papped oot it by ICT then I believe that there may of been an exodus of what saleable players they have.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Pretty sure I heard Brian Jackson say on STV news that Stevenson might be going but 'we want him to stay obviously.' Thought that was a strange thing for him to say, given his role in this affair

Poacher turned gamekeeper.

Or he's got Stockholm Syndrome.

[Hibee87]

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Are you 100% with that?

I seem to recall when Gretna were on the brink that the SPL were talking about their matches being recalculated as 3-0 to their opposition, regardless of previous results.

Of course, with all this euphoria at their demise, I might have dreamt that during a wet dream.

Yes your right. I seem to remember hearts getting beat twice from them that season and it would have made them 6 points better off or worse against hibs (cant quite remember which hearts team was around back then)

[Gus Fring]

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Are you 100% with that?

I seem to recall when Gretna were on the brink that the SPL were talking about their matches being recalculated as 3-0 to their opposition, regardless of previous results.

Of course, with all this euphoria at their demise, I might have dreamt that during a wet dream.

That's a possibility as well, I'm not 100% on what would happen. If that does happen that works out nicely for us because us and Aberdeen are the only ones to lose to them all season.

Celtic's 7-0 was in the Scottish Cup as well so that wouldn't be altered.

[Ronniekirk]

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These salary cuts have really come out of the blue. I think this is a definite sign that they know they're scuppered.

To us maybe but someone behind the scenes will have several contingency plan and this is obviously part of one of those.It could also be they have been told what to do from afar if they are to be serious about the fan ownership bid going through .If they go out league cup it will be interesting as they might be banking on the extrarevenues from a final .Pity yogi can't buy a win in last few weeks not convinced they will handle this game give last experience so hear7s will be wanting some experience in to take penalties. There's too Mutch speculation and it is about time they were made to come clean with where they are in this sordid saga Its totally unedifying .

[Wee Scottie Dug]

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That's a possibility as well, I'm not 100% on what would happen. If that does happen that works out nicely for us because us and Aberdeen are the only ones to lose to them all season.

Celtic's 7-0 was in the Scottish Cup as well so that wouldn't be altered.

Don't think the SPFL know either , the rules are pretty much open to interpretation and there are several options ....... Favourite phrase in the rule seems to be and/or

Club Ceasing to Operate, Participate in and/or be a Member of the League
C53 If, for any reason and during or after any Season, any Club ceases to operate or participate in or to be member of the League or any Play-Off Competition, its playing record in the League and/or any Play-Off Competitions may be expunged by the Board and/or the Board may determine the deemed score in the remainder of its Official Matches and/or the Board may take such steps and make such determinations as to League and Divisional position and/or promotion and/or relegation and participation and/or results in and outcome of any Play-Off Competition and/or any other competition operated by the Company and any and all such further or other steps or measures as the Board shall consider appropriate in the circumstances.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

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These salary cuts have really come out of the blue. I think this is a definite sign that they know they're scuppered.

.....and that their attendances haven't been what they'd hoped. In fact, nowhere near.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

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Big of Southern to take a cut now....wait until the well is as good as dry then take a cut when you know you will be out of a job in a matter of months anyway. He was as complicit as Romanov in the ruining odd their club but continued to take his contracted salary even when their supporters were giving the club their kids Christmas money.

I was thinking exact same watching STV sport earlier on. Good on him for sucking up all their cash revenue though :-)

[Onion]

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A contingency plan isn't needed. It's also not the SPFL's job to get involved with the running of clubs.

If Hearts are unable to fulfil their fixtures the league will be recalculated, with all fixtures against them being void. Another team will be brought in to the bottom of the league structure to replace them and the rest of the teams will shimmy up to make room.

But it is the governing body's responsibility to govern the league and the conduct of its members. They have and should be seeking assurances (and proof) that all members can complete their fixtures, abide by the rules etc and where necessary being proactive in mitigating/managing risks. Sitting back and reacting to events (legal or otherwise) isn't what we need from the SPFL /SFA. Saw far too much of that with SEVCO.

[truehibernian]

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I was thinking exact same watching STV sport earlier on. Good on him for sucking up all their cash revenue though :-)

Maybe CWG or someone who had worked with Jackson before could be better placed to answer this, but body language wise Bryan Jackson looked very very uncomfortable again, swallowing before answers noticeably and looking nervous. He was the same in an interview he gave at Tynecastle a few months back when things went a wee bit **** up. Maybe it's the way he is in front of cameras but he didn't look assured as he often does.

I'm now more convinced than ever that there are huge problems behind the scenes waiting to come out. Yogi - you better not give them a lifeline in that semi final boy

[tamig]

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Who is John Murray and who needs a DoF when you can't sign anyone and all contracts are being organised by BDO.

Big of Southern to take a cut now....wait until the well is as good as dry then take a cut when you know you will be out of a job in a matter of months anyway. He was as complicit as Romanov in the ruining odd their club but continued to take his contracted salary even when their supporters were giving the club their kids Christmas money.

My thoughts exactly.

A DoF usually identifies transfer targets and negotiates contracts. Why was this character not emptied right away by BDO? Registration ban in place so wtf has the guy been doing since the summer? Doesn't make sense to me that BDO kept him on in the first place. Hell mend them.

[Gus Fring]

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But it is the governing body's responsibility to govern the league and the conduct of its members. They have and should be seeking assurances (and proof) that all members can complete their fixtures, abide by the rules etc and where necessary being proactive in mitigating/managing risks. Sitting back and reacting to events (legal or otherwise) isn't what we need from the SPFL /SFA. Saw far too much of that with SEVCO.

The SPFL is a democracy, not a dictatorship. It's comprised of all the member clubs so them asking each other for information on each others finances etc is just asking for trouble. We were all adamant Hearts wouldn't finish last season and they did, the SPFL have to let them get on with it I'm afraid.

The SFA and SPFL are there to deal with sport, not business.

[jacomo]

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http://m.scotsman.com/sport/chelsea-...iver-1-1244026

Personal favourite of mine from the all is barry team.

Wonderful stuff. Obviously no quotes to substantiate the main story, although nice to know Billy Broon thought Kyle was a Scotland player.

'Abramovich and Romanov have been in talks over Driver.'

'Abramovich believes Driver could thrive in England.'

Does Abramovich even know who Romanov is?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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A contingency plan isn't needed. It's also not the SPFL's job to get involved with the running of clubs.

If Hearts are unable to fulfil their fixtures the league will be recalculated, with all fixtures against them being void. Another team will be brought in to the bottom of the league structure to replace them and the rest of the teams will shimmy up to make room.

I take it its not just me that gets a nice wee tingle down there when I read Baj's posts?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Save me a seat at the bar just a soda water for me though am aff the drink

I doubt that'll impress Lauren too much! :-)

[PatHead]

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The SPFL is a democracy, not a dictatorship. It's comprised of all the member clubs so them asking each other for information on each others finances etc is just asking for trouble. We were all adamant Hearts wouldn't finish last season and they did, the SPFL have to let them get on with it I'm afraid.

The SFA and SPFL are there to deal with sport, not business.

Disagree entirely. The SFA/SPFL are there to administer the game in this country. In other countries clubs have to follow fair play rules such as only spending a set proportion of their turnover on wages.

These rules would have avoided Rangers, Hearts and Motherwell getting in the mess they are and other clubs being cheated. Rules such as these should be brought in asap.

[PatHead]

Just noticed that there have been over 5.2 million views on this thread. The population of Scotland is "around 5.2 million" according to the Scottish government.

Frightening eh!

[Ronniekirk]

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The SPFL is a democracy, not a dictatorship. It's comprised of all the member clubs so them asking each other for information on each others finances etc is just asking for trouble. We were all adamant Hearts wouldn't finish last season and they did, the SPFL have to let them get on with it I'm afraid.

The SFA and SPFL are there to deal with sport, not business.

In that case I feel Rebellious ,let's attempt a Coup It's about time someone started Dictating to Hearts and get them off their Soap Box .

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Does anyone know if Richie Foran will be back for the SF? Big player for them. Been out with a shoulder injury since the Sheep game before Xmas. Yogi thought maybe two weeks at first, however I remember reading that it could be much longer if it was worst case scenario after a scan. Not seen any update since.

[Eyrie]

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Don't think the SPFL know either , the rules are pretty much open to interpretation and there are several options ....... Favourite phrase in the rule seems to be and/or

Club Ceasing to Operate, Participate in and/or be a Member of the League
C53 If, for any reason and during or after any Season, any Club ceases to operate or participate in or to be member of the League or any Play-Off Competition, its playing record in the League and/or any Play-Off Competitions may be expunged by the Board and/or the Board may determine the deemed score in the remainder of its Official Matches and/or the Board may take such steps and make such determinations as to League and Divisional position and/or promotion and/or relegation and participation and/or results in and outcome of any Play-Off Competition and/or any other competition operated by the Company and any and all such further or other steps or measures as the Board shall consider appropriate in the circumstances.

There's plenty of wriggle room in that. I think the most likely outcome would be to have the Yams limp on until the split and then let them die, with all their results still being valid as everyone has had the opportunity to beat them three times. The top six would be unaffected and the clubs in the bottom five would then have two home and two away games each to avoid the play off place. Only flaw would be that those clubs would have an imbalance of home and away fixtures based on the first 33 games.