Hearts looking for a one in one out policy. clearly desperate to sell players. Hope they get told to beat it.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...licy-1-3265777
Any of these guys likely to buckle.........
The current SPFL Board is made up of Neil Doncaster (CEO), Ralph Topping (Chairman), Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Les Gray (Hamilton Academical), Mike Mulraney (Alloa Athletic) and Bill Darroch (Stenhousemuir).
None of the board from bottom six team or ICT I note.
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13-01-2014 06:07 AM #35671
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13-01-2014 06:48 AM #35672Coaching Staff
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Someone needs to explain that to me.
Per Gary Locke in the article, they can't rest players. Yet also per the article Adam King who is signing for Swansea has only appeared 4 times. Why not play him more often?
Also how will a one in, one out help them rest players? Clearly just trying to get players in to 1) try and stay up and 2) get to the final.
We're no making excuses though, and we're taking our punishment on the chin. Aye right.
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13-01-2014 07:11 AM #35673
They might be getting beaten every week but if Bathgate's report on their game v Motherwell is anything to go by, they can hold their own and are more than capable of getting something out of most games. Hardly the scenario likely to demoralise their players, young or old. If the powers that be buckle under their constant whining, we'll see a stream of young players exiting to be replaced by Skacel and sundry other experienced players, with a guaranteed upturn in their fortunes no doubt. I hope they stand firm.
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13-01-2014 07:25 AM #35674@hibs.net private member
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Love the quote this morning in the Scotsman. "If the scottish premiership were the solar system then Hearts would be somewhere beyond Pluto".
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13-01-2014 07:27 AM #35675Left by mutual consent!
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Does that mean that they've become Mickey Mouse?
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And a point about former Yam, John Sutton's plea for leniency for the poor wee mites.
Motherwell have got the 3 points off them now and won't play them again at Tynie, so let them strengthen now and may'be they can take points off Aberdeen and Dundee Utd who still have to visit the Wonga Dome.
Not much sporting integrity in that proposal.
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Jambo journalist Murray with his latest slavering. Looks like he is taking some bait in the comments as well....
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13-01-2014 08:05 AM #35678Coaching Staff
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They would disappear in a black hole beside Uranus Stellar Post . Originally Posted by GordonHFC
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13-01-2014 08:15 AM #35679Coaching Staff
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They will be allowed to bring in an under 21 player if they sell one and he moves in the transfer window .We all know they want to bring in Rudi They can't accept that these rules were brought in to teams that cheated couldn't benefit or profit from there cheating However it doesn't surprise me that a team with no sporting integrity in the first place doesn't want to adhere to these rules. Originally Posted by Antwerphibs
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Today at least should once a for all put an end to this ongoing farce .They should be told in no uncertain terms what the rules are and any further attempt to bend or undermine the Authorities should result in further punishment for bringing the game into Disrepute.
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13-01-2014 08:18 AM #35680First Team Regular
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And more drivel from Keith Jackson:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...hearts-3015628
"IS the treatment of Hearts fair? Absolutely not. Must it continue unabated and without mercy? Sadly, there can be no other way. What we are currently witnessing at Tynecastle is unedifying, bordering on inhumane".
The last sentence above is simply hysteria, the man needs a straight-jacket!
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13-01-2014 08:22 AM #35681“A proper low rent guy” - Springbank 21/10/24
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A few years back a mate asked me, last minute, to play for a Hearts supporters team in a wee tournament. Wore the strip and, even worse, got the assist for the only goal of the game against the Hibs supporters team... Originally Posted by gorgie greens
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I still feel dirty.
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13-01-2014 08:34 AM #35682Coaching Staff
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He has been quick to report on how poor we have been over recent years .On radio he often sounded patronising and smug when putting us down.There was no mention that we were prudently living within our means while hearts were not . Also this notion one man is imposing all this on the club without them knowing or being able to do anything about it it is just nonsense. The riccarton three spoke out ,but no one listened or acted ,as they were lapping up the good times ,while denying there would come a time when it couldn't be sustained . Originally Posted by Zondervan
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My take on all the bleating from Hearts is that they are not used to being in this situation. Getting beat every week, facing relegation.
All the (ahem) success from years past is just making them confused/dilerious with the reality of today.
The fall will be long and hard.
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13-01-2014 08:36 AM #35684Coaching Staff
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Locke is banging on about 17 and 18 year olds again. What was the average age of the last line up again? I'm sure it was nearer 22. Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
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"Scottish football has done this to Hearts". Originally Posted by Zondervan
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Putting aside the years of financial doping, non-payment of players salaries, VAT and PAYE which some may argue is the actual cause of Hearts' current plight, would I not be right in thinking that it was Hearts themselves that asked for a transfer embargo to be imposed in lieu of a financial penalty?
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13-01-2014 08:38 AM #35686Coaching Staff
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Careful there. Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
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The 'Riccarton three' were not speaking out about unsustainable spending and the effect on competitition. They were talking about interference from Romanov and the treatement of some players which meant they were not being allowed the leeway to win more stuff basically.
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Can't see Bill Darroch being too forthcoming for der yam, were they not on the creditors list for £12k Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
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13-01-2014 08:40 AM #35688Coaching Staff
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At the moment no one else has done anything to Hearts which has harmed them. Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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They are well adrift even without the points deduction and they have been unable to pay creditors so they have no money to pay for players anyway.
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In the last derby there average age was 22 ours was 23 Originally Posted by Andy74
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Dundee utd must be playing even closer to hearts average age with the young players in their squad and it's not doing them any harm they've more scouts than supporters these days the problem with hearts is the quality of the young players there just not very good.
I'm sick and tired of all this rubbish now the SPFL must put an end to it, they profited whilst every other club outside the OF cut costs and played laddies they continued to live beyond there means no one else to blame bar themselves
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"And BDO will ask for special dispensation to
sign free agents, with at least two senior
players thought to be willing to join Hearts
for little recompense"
oh. I wonder who one of them would be? !!!
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Plus the unmistakeable waffling of a Mr Shaun Lawson, surely? Originally Posted by itslegaltender
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Why folk read this ***** I don't know. He's only doing it to get a reaction and be controversial.
All this stuff about "it's borderline Inhuman" FFS it's just a game of football. They are going down now anyway so let the "kids" just go out and try enjoy it. Some aren't ready but playing in the top flight at 17 /18 would be every boys dream.
****ing man up Hearts and just get on with it. It's football not life or death.
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spot on. His team aren't as youthful and inexperienced as he would like everyone to think. Plenty other clubs having to play younger players these days, PLENTY. Their cheap excuse for being so far detached. Perhaps they should look at their training methods too as injuries seem frequent at their Training HQ. Originally Posted by Andy74
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There's no way that the SPFL will buckle today. Jog on Gary Cock e.
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Pleading, pathetic and pitiful - everything that his beloved club have become in the last few months (though I certainly offer no pity). Originally Posted by itslegaltender
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How delightful to see the arrogance turn into begging, and the acceptance of their punishment fly out of the window as soon as the ramifications of the sanctions start to hit home.
**** Hearts, and any media figure who stands up for them.
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Just posted some quotes from Keith 'wealth-off-the-radar' Jackson on another thread.
Apparently, the 'inhumane treatment' of Hearts by the SPFL/SFA is as a direct result of the 'bloodlust' last year against his beloved Rangers.
This is more of a rhetorical question but, does anyone think he actually cares about Hearts or is it just another excuse to get a dig in about poor wee Rangers?
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I would also think that the clubs immediately above them would go bananas if the rules are altered as they would then be almost certainly be forced into making expensive singings in order to retain their top flight status.
The repercussions would be enormous.
Jackson is just attempting to deflect flack from his company as the time will come when BDO take their monster fee that will surely leave hertz doomed. It's now clear to see why Jackson is so keen on keeping them in the Premiership.
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That's exactly what it is - hysterical Originally Posted by Zondervan
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Ewan Murray being 'appalled' at the way Billy Brown was spoken to on the radio - come on Ewan, there are greater things in life to be 'appalled' at - and in the context of the radio show, Billy was given a forum to vent his spleen. His latest rant in The Guardian is nothing more than a 'shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted' piece - smothered with arrogant Hearts supporting angst and self pity (as are his replies to fair comments).
Jackson - the Record are struggling for readership numbers so it's only par for the course that he jumps on the media bandwagon of seeing Locke and Hearts as 'victims'. It's like the debt crisis and folk saying 'I didn't mean to rack up all this debt and go on two holidays a year and buy expensive cars, but they kept increasing my credit limit, what else was I to do' - maybe one day the penny will drop and media will report that there is a responsibility and an accountabilty that comes with everyday finance and housekeeping - if you aint got the money, don't spend it - if you overspend and cannot pay it back, there are penalties. Simple as that.
Go down to any public park in Edinburgh, coach any kids who play for teams, you'll hear of young school kids playing up to 3 games a week on occasion, or training every day if at an academy, nights with their club, school football teams - do you hear parents moaning about 'health and safety' of the kids ?
Smokescreen - that is what it is, pure and simple. It's a tough league, a hard league and a physical league - but these 'youngsters' were given professional contracts and were deemed good enough to become pro footballers. Every single SPL side, bar Celtic, are fielding teenagers and very early 20's footballers. Every side.
BDO decided who to get rid of when they came in - Hearts released experienced players like Barr, Sutton, Taoull, Webster, Zaliukas, etc - you'd need to look at the books of course but I'm convinced they could have retained at least 2 of these players as well as keeping McDonald, Stevenson and Hamill.
Maybe BDO and Southern should be under far more scrutiny from the media, not Locke and his 'boys'.
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Whilst it is infuriating in many ways (and it certainly is), we should really just enjoy this. The fall from (dis)grace that they have suffered in going from their 'nobody likes us, we don't care' arrogance, to eliciting shear pity from detestable, ill informed characters like Keith Jackson, is indicative of how pathetic that club is.
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You are of course correct. However, as Jackson points out in his article, the collapse of Rangers was entirely the fault of Craig Whyte. Shame on all of us who believed otherwise and wanted to punish this admirable club for the malevolent actions of one evil individual. Originally Posted by keekaboo
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Jackson couldn`t give a flying one for Hearts or any clubs outside SevCo and the Soapies. That article is clearly an attack upon Scottish football fans for having the sheer temerity to try and see his huns punished for cheating. Him and his chums in the Glasgow media will never get over it. Originally Posted by keekaboo
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