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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

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  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

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  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

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  • Don't care about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    A couple of extra wee tidbits from this. Apparently BDO have also asked for an advance on their end of season payment. They offered to take the money for 12th place and even if they manage to finish higher they would not ask for any more. This was also rejected, as was any other form of financial help from the SFA or the SPFL. Furthermore BDO sought clarification on what would happen if Gary Locke was unable to field a team. Jackson was told he has "more than enough players available that this shouldn't be a problem" and that "Ensuring footballing ability and competitiveness is down to the club and not the responsibility of the SFA" essentially saying "But they players are crap" isn't going to fly as an excuse. Jackson was reminded of the rules and that any team that fails to meet it's obligation to fulfil a fixture the circumstances would be investigated on a case by case basis.
    Cheers fir that Bajillions.

    They are at it Big Time and if they are asking for money already things must indeed be very tight.

    The SFA etc know that they must take a stance and play by the rules.

    Loving all this tbh.

    All the begging/squirming and pitiful excuses.

    Pleasing.


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    Presumably, they would get rid of a couple of their highest earners, and get 4/5 in.
    Who are these players and what wage do you think they're on ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    A couple of extra wee tidbits from this.

    Apparently BDO have also asked for an advance on their end of season payment. They offered to take the money for 12th place and even if they manage to finish higher they would not ask for any more. This was also rejected, as was any other form of financial help from the SFA or the SPFL.

    Furthermore BDO sought clarification on what would happen if Gary Locke was unable to field a team. Jackson was told he has "more than enough players available that this shouldn't be a problem" and that "Ensuring footballing ability and competitiveness is down to the club and not the responsibility of the SFA" essentially saying "But they players are crap" isn't going to fly as an excuse. Jackson was reminded of the rules and that any team that fails to meet it's obligation to fulfil a fixture the circumstances would be investigated on a case by case basis.
    That's priceless if true. Absolutely LOVIN it This sounds like a club that's about to fold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    A couple of extra wee tidbits from this.

    Apparently BDO have also asked for an advance on their end of season payment. They offered to take the money for 12th place and even if they manage to finish higher they would not ask for any more. This was also rejected, as was any other form of financial help from the SFA or the SPFL.


    considering that's the position they will be anyway...very kind of them

    Furthermore BDO sought clarification on what would happen if Gary Locke was unable to field a team. Jackson was told he has "more than enough players available that this shouldn't be a problem" and that "Ensuring footballing ability and competitiveness is down to the club and not the responsibility of the SFA" essentially saying "But they players are crap" isn't going to fly as an excuse. Jackson was reminded of the rules and that any team that fails to meet it's obligation to fulfil a fixture the circumstances would be investigated on a case by case basis.

    excellent, now tell them to STFU about it once and for all, it's getting chronically pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    That's priceless if true. Absolutely LOVIN it This sounds like a club that's about to fold
    Sounds exactly like it. Begging bowl out. If they do go BANG the finger will be pointed everywhere else for not helping them.

    I'm really enjoying this but still want them liquidated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    A couple of extra wee tidbits from this.

    Apparently BDO have also asked for an advance on their end of season payment. They offered to take the money for 12th place and even if they manage to finish higher they would not ask for any more. This was also rejected, as was any other form of financial help from the SFA or the SPFL.

    Furthermore BDO sought clarification on what would happen if Gary Locke was unable to field a team. Jackson was told he has "more than enough players available that this shouldn't be a problem" and that "Ensuring footballing ability and competitiveness is down to the club and not the responsibility of the SFA" essentially saying "But they players are crap" isn't going to fly as an excuse. Jackson was reminded of the rules and that any team that fails to meet it's obligation to fulfil a fixture the circumstances would be investigated on a case by case basis.
    Fair play and common sense emanating from the game's legislative bodies - could this be a first?

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    Good to see the authorities taking the hard line on this, not that I would expect any leniency but you sometimes wonder with these muppets running the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    Who are these players and what wage do you think they're on ?
    McDonald, Stevenson, Wilson and Hamill will probably be the 4 highest earners. All 4 could be sold or freed in the January window to few up more cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    McDonald, Stevenson, Wilson and Hamill will probably be the 4 highest earners. All 4 could be sold or freed in the January window to few up more cash.
    Surely they would play 'for free' to support the cause?? :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo View Post
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    It's quite funny really cos they STILL don't GET IT.

    They have broken the rules and are being punished accordingly.

    Simple as that. Every team signed up to the rules and put the measures in place.

    Get on with it and stop all this ****ing moaning about it being unfair.

    You were happy to take the so called glory now take the doom and gloom.

    Get it roond ye ya bunch of roasters.
    What they don't get is it's both a punishment and deterrent to stop other clubs engaging in wild speculate to accumulate nonsense. It'd be a rubbish punishment and deterrent to others if the governing bodies suddenly decide to ease up.

    "Our players aren't very good" isn't a decent defence and neither is "22 is too young!"

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    32 players in their squad. Perfectly sufficient for any matchday.

    No one else's fault they're all *****.

    No one else's fault they have a registration embargo.

    No none else's fault they never learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopops1875 View Post
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    I like the fact it says they are operating with a smaller squad this season, what was the size of the squad again at their peak of cheating ? I reacall it being mental
    I'm sure it was around 65 players....one of the biggest playing squads in the UK

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    McDonald, Stevenson, Wilson and Hamill will probably be the 4 highest earners. All 4 could be sold or freed in the January window to few up more cash.
    McDonald & Wilson are their two best/experienced players, so couldn't see them improve on those two. No one would pay money for the other two.... so sounds like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    Going to get very messy the longer it goes on. Current stage is "poor us", "take pity on our poor wee lambs". Once that's rejected and they continue to get humped by properly managed SPFL teams, the next stage in their grieving process will be anger. Someone (other than us) is to blame. The Liths, BDO, SFA, other SPFL teams will start getting blamed for everything that's happened.
    Soon to be followed by the fighting amongst themselves which I'm particularly looking forward to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Todd View Post
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    What they don't get is it's both a punishment and deterrent to stop other clubs engaging in wild speculate to accumulate nonsense. It'd be a rubbish punishment and deterrent to others if the governing bodies suddenly decide to ease up.

    "Our players aren't very good" isn't a decent defence and neither is "22 is too young!"
    So they need tae pay the penalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    McDonald & Wilson are their two best/experienced players, so couldn't see them improve on those two. No one would pay money for the other two.... so sounds like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
    They said the Titanic was unsinkable as well. Nice analogy. :-)

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    'quietly optimistic' ? Is that as good as confident?

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    'quietly optimistic' ? Is that as good as confident?
    He said "Cautiously Optimistic"

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    I'm sure it was around 65 players....one of the biggest playing squads in the UK
    nt going into too much detail but i went on trial with Hearts some years ago and at the 1st day of preseason there were 68 players there (not including the youth team).

    Was a farce and i didnt bother going the next again day along with 2 or 3 others. It took a week for John Murray to call and realise i wasnt there. Not his fault, a lot of the coaches had no idea all these players were turning up

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    Good to see that they're backing Locke too.........
    An incurable case of Locke'd-in Syndrome now to add to all their other (entirely self-inflicted) woes.

    More strugglin' ahead. Shame.

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    They're moaning the now about how they're being treated by the 'Football Authorities' - imagine what'll they'll be like when they're being dealt with by the 'Financial Crimes' branches of various countries WHEN they finally unravel Vlad's 'Business-Schemes' !

    Re the outcome of their 'Beg/plead/greet-Fest' with the SPFL - Hearts may have forgotten what they did to Dundee (along with the countless other dodges they've pulled over their 30+ year ride on the 'Fantasy-Bus') but it's obvious the SPFL and every other member-club haven't - now THAT is what you call 'Pleasing' !!

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    Fact is stranger than fiction, you really couldn't make it up.

    To summarise: The Yams are getting their knickers in a twist because the SPFL won't make an exception to the rules regarding the punishment they got for disregarding the rules.

    Talk about leopards not changing their spots.

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    Surely they would play 'for free' to support the cause?? :-D
    Do you mean like big Trudi would?

    "I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopops1875 View Post
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    I like the fact it says they are operating with a smaller squad this season, what was the size of the squad again at their peak of cheating ? I reacall it being mental

    Bigger squad than Liverpool IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Do you mean like big Trudi would?
    Exactly like Bawsactchel. NOT


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    I believe BDO are having to make drastic savings by getting bodies of the wage bill or they are Donald, and know they can't afford to bring anyone else in. By having the SFA / SPFL confirm they won't allow replacements, removes the blame from BDO in the failure of HOMFC surviving their cheating years.

    GGTTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by butchersdug View Post
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    nt going into too much detail but i went on trial with Hearts some years ago and at the 1st day of preseason there were 68 players there (not including the youth team).

    Was a farce and i didnt bother going the next again day along with 2 or 3 others. It took a week for John Murray to call and realise i wasnt there. Not his fault, a lot of the coaches had no idea all these players were turning up



    Hearts defender Dylan McGowan knows he's a main man at Tynecastle after swapping No.74 shirt for No.5


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibees 7062 View Post
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    Hearts defender Dylan McGowan knows he's a main man at Tynecastle after swapping No.74 shirt for No.5
    Allisbarry : tinycastle giants absorb drop in revenue from sale of shirt numbers to promote world superstar to no. 5. All big teams do it.

    "I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"

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    In a 500-word statement on Hearts' official website, Romanov said: "Supporters deserve a new beginning and have to accept the fact that their club has to start from the lower league, keeping order in the SPL and without creating unfair competition with other clubs."
    While expressing sympathy for supporters of Rangers, Romanov - who pointed the finger of blame at various figures - was adamant the Glasgow club should be punished.
    He added: "As regards the club itself, we can only express our deepest condolences to its supporters, who have been lied to for so many years.
    "It had to happen sooner or later. They have lived beyond law and all morals, and should now be declared beyond the pale."

    The man they now disown, the man who was apparently their saviour - indeed good enough to have his name tattooed across your back - got it right! Let us just view the last couple of sentences which sums up the Hearts situation perfectly. At least Rangers are getting on with it!


    "As regards the club itself, we can only express our deepest condolences to its supporters, who have been lied to for so many years.

    "It had to happen sooner or later. They have lived beyond law and all morals, and should now be declared beyond the pale."
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    Quote Originally Posted by butchersdug View Post
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    nt going into too much detail but i went on trial with Hearts some years ago and at the 1st day of preseason there were 68 players there (not including the youth team).

    Was a farce and i didnt bother going the next again day along with 2 or 3 others. It took a week for John Murray to call and realise i wasnt there. Not his fault, a lot of the coaches had no idea all these players were turning up
    Sounds like you had a lucky escape there BD.
    No denying, not so long ago, they had more extras than Gone With The Wind - unfortunately for them, now they're just ... GONE!!!

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