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[Dashing Bob S]

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From me this morning. Maybe there's something in this. I'm curious why, if there's money to last until March, BJ is asking for fans to cancel their kids Xmas again? I was also told money was getting tight last week.

Theres more to this than he's letting on, I'm sure of it.

Jackson singled out the cup ties with Hibs and Celtic as unexpected revenue boosters and has more than hinted that they need more of the same in order to get to the point in time where they expect UBIG to be in the position to make a decision.

With that in mind, the two biggest games in the history of Hearts could be the forthcoming cup games against Celtic and ICT. To get that extra little tickle of cash he's suggested might need to get through this period, progress in one or both competitions would seem to be essential.

C'MON THE TIC AND THE CALEY JAGS!!

[EK_Hibs]

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From me this morning. Maybe there's something in this. I'm curious why, if there's money to last until March, BJ is asking for fans to cancel their kids Xmas again? I was also told money was getting tight last week.

Theres more to this than he's letting on, I'm sure of it.

I thought the 'kids Christmas' comment was merely tongue in cheek, nothing more.

The ****bos will be coming out of administration in February or March at the latest which is disappointing, But on a brighter note they will definitely be getting relegated this season. :)

[PapillonVert]

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From me this morning. Maybe there's something in this. I'm curious why, if there's money to last until March, BJ is asking for fans to cancel their kids Xmas again? I was also told money was getting tight last week.

Theres more to this than he's letting on, I'm sure of it.

Look at that man's face during his interview today on the BBC, Bajillions, that man is nervous.

[jacomo]

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I have just been watching the Bryan Jackson interview on the BBC. Now, something potentially interesting about his body language has occurred to me.

If you notice, he appears very uncomfortable in what he is saying, in particular when he is not speaking he is continually swallowing heavily.

If there are any psychologists out there and people who can read body language, I wonder what their assessment of this is. I once read that a sign of someone not quite telling the truth is that they start swallowing quite heavily as they know that what they are saying is not true and their body language is giving away their discomfort at what they are saying.

I am not saying anything, just that that man did not appear comfortable in that interview. Could be, of course, that he is just a very nervous type.

He's given quite a few TV interviews and press conferences since he started working with Hearts and has always looked and sounded assured. He certainly didn't today, his nervousness might explain the odd joke he made about being responsible for cancelling Christmas.

I would guess that something's up.

[Bostonhibby]

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From me this morning. Maybe there's something in this. I'm curious why, if there's money to last until March, BJ is asking for fans to cancel their kids Xmas again? I was also told money was getting tight last week.

Theres more to this than he's letting on, I'm sure of it.

But surely he isn't going to lose sight of who he is meant to act for and what his priorities are meant to be? Or is "independent" Brian replacing "independent" ian who has mostly disappeared recently?

Brians role should be quite simple really-trouser a hefty fee for shutting them down or doing a swift hospital pass to the next owner. Its not that difficult.if it was a manufacturing business with a similar financial record they'd have wound it up and earned their fee months ago.

[jacomo]

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From me this morning. Maybe there's something in this. I'm curious why, if there's money to last until March, BJ is asking for fans to cancel their kids Xmas again? I was also told money was getting tight last week.

Theres more to this than he's letting on, I'm sure of it.

There's a scenario unfolding here where Hearts are not out of admin by March, and the FoH Diddie money goes towards meeting monthly running costs rather than repaying the peeps who are stumping up the £2.5m offer. Ouch.

[gorgie greens]

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I have just been watching the Bryan Jackson interview on the BBC. Now, something potentially interesting about his body language has occurred to me.

If you notice, he appears very uncomfortable in what he is saying, in particular when he is not speaking he is continually swallowing heavily.

If there are any psychologists out there and people who can read body language, I wonder what their assessment of this is. I once read that a sign of someone not quite telling the truth is that they start swallowing quite heavily as they know that what they are saying is not true and their body language is giving away their discomfort at what they are saying.

I am not saying anything, just that that man did not appear comfortable in that interview. Could be, of course, that he is just a very nervous type.

you can tell he's lying as you can see his lips moving

[Pete]

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Hearts debt

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562

NEVER LET THEM FORGET. THE TEAM WITH NO SHAME...

These people know the score. I'm sure they're all celebrating at the news of a potential CVA.


Never let them forget.

[Gus Fring]

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I thought the 'kids Christmas' comment was merely tongue in cheek, nothing more.

The ****bos will be coming out of administration in February or March at the latest which is disappointing, But on a brighter note they will definitely be getting relegated this season. :)

As did I at first but the more I watch it the more it seems like a nervous laugh. It's definitely in context with the more serious claims of needing more money soon. It's a joke in poor taste IMO.

[GREEN WARLORD]

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Hearts debt

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562

NEVER LET THEM FORGET. THE TEAM WITH NO SHAME...

[Skol]

The scotsman article for tomorrow doesnt exactly tell the story like JKB are reading it and talks of possible stumbling blocks, delays and challemges

Does no one over there stop to think things through. Yes things have taken a step forward, but Jackson was letting off some huge warning signs in the interview, signs that are being ignored and in fact read as positives.

I would like to ask some questions on JKB to see what they start to say, but my ability to post over there is restricted due to a long standing ban on posting placed upon me in error which I refuse to acknowledge as it wasnt me in the first place and entirely their admin error (and I have an e-mail to prove it ! - oh the irony of an admin error !!!). However ,I might give in and throw a few cats amongst the pigeons

[StevieC]

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There's a scenario unfolding here where Hearts are not out of admin by March, and the FoH Diddie money goes towards meeting monthly running costs rather than repaying the peeps who are stumping up the £2.5m offer. Ouch.

Season Tickets will be on sale in February, that'll get them through to the end of the season.

[Steve20]

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I thought the 'kids Christmas' comment was merely tongue in cheek, nothing more.

The ****bos will be coming out of administration in February or March at the latest which is disappointing, But on a brighter note they will definitely be getting relegated this season. :)

It's not definite that they'll go down. They could make points up on Killie. Even if they don't make up the full points, there's a very high chance that Kilmarnock will go into admin themselves this season.

[weonlywon6-2]

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I have just been watching the Bryan Jackson interview on the BBC. Now, something potentially interesting about his body language has occurred to me.

If you notice, he appears very uncomfortable in what he is saying, in particular when he is not speaking he is continually swallowing heavily.

If there are any psychologists out there and people who can read body language, I wonder what their assessment of this is. I once read that a sign of someone not quite telling the truth is that they start swallowing quite heavily as they know that what they are saying is not true and their body language is giving away their discomfort at what they are saying.

I am not saying anything, just that that man did not appear comfortable in that interview. Could be, of course, that he is just a very nervous type.

I think we are clutching at straws now

[gorgie greens]

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I think we are clutching at straws now

could be right there,thing is going by how the voting went regarding what we thought or hoped the outcome would be to the severity of the punishment that they would get for there cheating,lies,theft and just being pond life,we can only hope that there is a god and they get whats due.
having followed this from the start and read every comment and view ,i think the diddies will drop over the next few months as they already (fans) think they will have the nose and a few others there plying there trade at swynie in the next couple of months and when that doesnt happen,the cold days n nights are here,xmas,and their thin squad picks up injuries and suspensions ,i can see them having to sell some player as well,things will be torid for a bit there,and you dont enjoy going to games when your team is not winning games.
time will tell but im hoping there will be a few more twists in this before the season is out and think we should start a save Killie fund till May time,i would happily pay £20/£30 per month if it ment Killie avoided admin till the end of the season and Hearts go down.

[Alfred E Newman]

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I think we are clutching at straws now

Maybe not, if you read today's " Cancel Christmas " plea from Jackson in the morning papers!

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...or-Hearts-fans

[Baker9]

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From me this morning. Maybe there's something in this. I'm curious why, if there's money to last until March, BJ is asking for fans to cancel their kids Xmas again? I was also told money was getting tight last week.

Theres more to this than he's letting on, I'm sure of it.

It seems to be all about what happens after March. If the shares are still frozen and the money has run out in March or earlier, it is a dead club. Even if the shares are transferred it is a terminally ill club. It seems to have reached a point for where for the first time in the long running saga I actually understand what is happening. There is simply no viable future in the next 100 years for HMFC. I for one am a tiny bit sad about that.

What a massive longer term opportunity for Edinburgh Hibs FC!

[Weststandwanab]

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Look at that man's face during his interview today on the BBC, Bajillions, that man is nervous.

I think so too.

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But surely he isn't going to lose sight of who he is meant to act for and what his priorities are meant to be? Or is "independent" Brian replacing "independent" ian who has mostly disappeared recently?

Brians role should be quite simple really-trouser a hefty fee for shutting them down or doing a swift hospital pass to the next owner. Its not that difficult.if it was a manufacturing business with a similar financial record they'd have wound it up and earned their fee months ago.

So true.

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There's a scenario unfolding here where Hearts are not out of admin by March, and the FoH Diddie money goes towards meeting monthly running costs rather than repaying the peeps who are stumping up the £2.5m offer. Ouch.

That is distinctly possible.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

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It seems to be all about what happens after March. If the shares are still frozen and the money has run out in March or earlier, it is a dead club. Even if the shares are transferred it is a terminally ill club. It seems to have reached a point for where for the first time in the long running saga I actually understand what is happening. There is simply no viable future in the next 100 years for HMFC. I for one am a tiny bit sad about that.

What a massive longer term opportunity for Edinburgh Hibs FC!

What a wee shame for them!

[Matty_Jack04]

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But surely he isn't going to lose sight of who he is meant to act for and what his priorities are meant to be? Or is "independent" Brian replacing "independent" ian who has mostly disappeared recently?

Brians role should be quite simple really-trouser a hefty fee for shutting them down or doing a swift hospital pass to the next owner. Its not that difficult.if it was a manufacturing business with a similar financial record they'd have wound it up and earned their fee months ago.

He can't come across as a man willing to press the big shut down button or the yams won't pass over their hard earned when it's needed, he has to sell the club as a going concern which is why in his media dealings he doesn't come across independent as it's his only way of reaching supporters, so it's positive spin when possible. I think up to now he's been quite honest to be fair he's not filled anyone with false hope and he's been critical of FOH mouthing off, there's probably more to it than he's letting on but when you have press meetings and no one is asking the right questions you can't expect him to let these things be known, the club has a wee boost at the moment a big game coming all he's bothered in is shifting tickets and keep the feel good factor going as long a possible not bringing the yams crashing down to earth at the first oppertunity

[Caversham Green]

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These people know the score. I'm sure they're all celebrating at the news of a potential CVA.


Never let them forget.

Given that the vast majority of the debt was owed to Ukio and UBIG, with UBIG abstaining and the CVA being passed by 87%, virtually all of those creditors must have voted against the CVA - i.e. voted to close HMFC down.

And that includes the charity run by David Southern that should never have been a creditor to start with. Not a lot of goodwill there.

[Ozyhibby]

With the Yams now paying BDO's fees I suppose they can now run an administration as long as they need to until the shares are unfrozen.
Obviously if it goes on as long as July then they will have another 15 point deduction (did the auto relegation rule ever get passed?) and also the possibility of not having enough players to start the season as they have a few players out of contract.

[shagpile]

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Maybe not, if you read today's " Cancel Christmas " plea from Jackson in the morning papers!

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...or-Hearts-fans

That interview is anything but positive. Of course Murray is chuffed, but then he would be, he is an MP & sees nothing in the negative. I think Jackson knows what the score is going to be. 4 months before the game is played.
Hearts are going to need money, more money & a great deal of luck to survive this.

[Greenworld]

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could be right there,thing is going by how the voting went regarding what we thought or hoped the outcome would be to the severity of the punishment that they would get for there cheating,lies,theft and just being pond life,we can only hope that there is a god and they get whats due.
having followed this from the start and read every comment and view ,i think the diddies will drop over the next few months as they already (fans) think they will have the nose and a few others there plying there trade at swynie in the next couple of months and when that doesnt happen,the cold days n nights are here,xmas,and their thin squad picks up injuries and suspensions ,i can see them having to sell some player as well,things will be torid for a bit there,and you dont enjoy going to games when your team is not winning games.
time will tell but im hoping there will be a few more twists in this before the season is out and think we should start a save Killie fund till May time,i would happily pay £20/£30 per month if it ment Killie avoided admin till the end of the season and Hearts go down.

I suggest we start a fund for TB if you have spare cash give it to hibs its time to forget about othrr clubs and concentrate on hibs.....imagine the boost Terry Butcher would get from a new fighting fund to get new players how much could be raised is this not the best way to improve over hearts or whoever help fund better players ...

[jonny]

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It's not definite that they'll go down. They could make points up on Killie. Even if they don't make up the full points, there's a very high chance that Kilmarnock will go into admin themselves this season.

Killie received a £1million injection in the summer from an investor. They won't go into administration this season. Come January the yams will have another sale to reduce costs. They're as good as relegated pal.

[Jack]

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As did I at first but the more I watch it the more it seems like a nervous laugh. It's definitely in context with the more serious claims of needing more money soon. It's a joke in poor taste IMO.

How many times have you watched it???????

Come on Baji, its not that important at 11 o'clock on a Friday night!!!? ;-)

[Greenworld]

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could be right there,thing is going by how the voting went regarding what we thought or hoped the outcome would be to the severity of the punishment that they would get for there cheating,lies,theft and just being pond life,we can only hope that there is a god and they get whats due.
having followed this from the start and read every comment and view ,i think the diddies will drop over the next few months as they already (fans) think they will have the nose and a few others there plying there trade at swynie in the next couple of months and when that doesnt happen,the cold days n nights are here,xmas,and their thin squad picks up injuries and suspensions ,i can see them having to sell some player as well,things will be torid for a bit there,and you dont enjoy going to games when your team is not winning games.
time will tell but im hoping there will be a few more twists in this before the season is out and think we should start a save Killie fund till May time,i would happily pay £20/£30 per month if it ment Killie avoided admin till the end of the season and Hearts go down.

I suggest we start a fund for TB if you have spare cash give it to hibs its time to forget about othrr clubs and concentrate on hibs.....imagine the boost Terry Butcher would get from a new fighting fund to get new players how much could be raised is this not the best way to improve over hearts or whoever help fund better players ...

[greenginger]

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Given that the vast majority of the debt was owed to Ukio and UBIG, with UBIG abstaining and the CVA being passed by 87%, virtually all of those creditors must have voted against the CVA - i.e. voted to close HMFC down.

And that includes the charity run by David Southern that should never have been a creditor to start with. Not a lot of goodwill there.

Does the information BDO publish on the Vote give any indication of who voted for and against ?

Or, am I going to have to do a FOI. request to find out which way our Council voted with our money due by HOMFC.

[Baker9]

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I used to work with BJ, albeit many years go. I also got the feeling that he was nervous and, no, he doesn't strike me as the nervous type.

He hinted that the UBIG shares are a stumbling block. IMO, the reason he doesn't say that their freezing might scupper the whole deal is PR.

It needs someone in the media to ask the question directly.

He seems like a decent guy. I don't thing he was nervous I think he was thoroughly embarrassed by his situation. Wearing a Heart's tie, his conscience made him tell the Hearts fans outright that they are actually giving any future money to him to pay his fees. I have watched it again and I think he is squirming with embarrassment.

[Onceinawhile]

This thread is getting ridiculous now.

Thankfully I've figured out a way to tell whose talking nonsense. Anyone saying they are itk or have a source - talking nonsense.

Where does this leave certain posters who even last week were telling us their top level source said no chance of a cva?

People need to suck it up and move on instead of coming up with more zany reasons as to why they are doomed.

should point out this isn't including cwg who has done a good job, but imo didn't factor in the football club coefficient to hia calcultions.