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[southsider]

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Apparently they are likely to accept, however. What gets me is that all the creditors who are going to get zilch will probably still be supplying goods and services to the thieves as if nothing had happened. If they do, they deserve to get stung.

If they (bdo fc) can bump HMRC so easily then why does any Company pay tax ? Just run up huge debts to all concerned then get some half-wit MP to stick up for you and nothing happens. Just carry on lads. "We won the war, don't you know". I wish i could get legal aid as i would sue MP Murray for the 2m they screwed us taxpayers for.

[HibbyAndy]

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It is indeed.

We had a couple of fantastic attendances of 14K+. The trophy presentation day, new year v Raith and a game v Falkirk that put us about 12 points clear by winning.

The average for the season was just over 8500 though.

Ayr utd boxing day 14k.

[brog]

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The reduction in crowds from the relegation season can largely be explained by lack of away supporters. In the Premier Division there would have been around six matches with a (largely) full visitors end (Rangers, Celtic and Hearts) and two others against Aberdeen with good visiting number then. By comparison few First Division visitors brought more than a hundred or so.

The home supporters attending was probably much higher than Hibs are getting at the moment.

Agreed, I made our home average league crowd as 10.9k meaning there were well over 10,000 Hibs fans at each game. We certainly can't say that now. The myth is not a myth but undoubtedly Yams will lose money in 2nd tier.

[Kojock]

What is not a myth is Hibs lost well over a million £ in the 1st Div. Can Hertz cope with a reduction in revenue. Wouldn't think so.

[dangermouse]

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Until it is quoted again next time..........

I have saved the info. Should it raise it's head again I can have an instant comeback without requiring input from other .netters

[monktonharp]

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Not forgetting of course the ceremony beforehand where the Germans apologised for all that war business and presented a special medal for defeating tyranny. Angela Merkel expressed sincerest apologies for missing the occasion.

not entirely true, Frau Merkel has a deep mistrust of Romanov, and any of his past cronies, incase he has access to her mobile phone messages and designs on taking over Deutche Bank.

[bingo70]

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What is not a myth is Hibs lost well over a million £ in the 1st Div. Can Hertz cope with a reduction in revenue. Wouldn't think so.

I'd imagine there'll be a lot of there squad out of contract in the summer and they're already down to the bare bones so they'd also have to build a whole new squad.

I will be a bit deflated if this Cva is accepted but I think relegation could be a big deal to them.

It's also worth noting it took dunfermline around 3 months to exit admin after a Cva was agreed and I'd have thought the hearts deal will be a lot more complicated so its not impossible they could be in admin at the end of the season, if that happens I think they'll start next season on -15 again. They're ****ed if they go down imo.

[monktonharp]

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I'd imagine there'll be a lot of there squad out of contract in the summer and they're already down to the bare bones so they'd also have to build a whole new squad.

I will be a bit deflated if this Cva is accepted but I think relegation could be a big deal to them.

It's also worth noting it took dunfermline around 3 months to exit admin after a Cva was agreed and I'd have thought the hearts deal will be a lot more complicated so its not impossible they could be in admin at the end of the season, if that happens I think they'll start next season on -15 again. They're ****ed if they go down imo.

ok, I see your point, but what would happen if they are clear of Admin...still get relegated....play a few games....then go into Admin...again??

[PatHead]

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ok, I see your point, but what would happen if they are clear of Admin...still get relegated....play a few games....then go into Admin...again??

We party and open another 2000 page thread? Hearts supporters say it is what big teams do and arrange a friendly against Union Berlin because they like the name. 4000 turn up, Banderson claims it as a success.

[CyberSauzee]

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ok, I see your point, but what would happen if they are clear of Admin...still get relegated....play a few games....then go into Admin...again??

That's what I think will happen. Out of admin just before the end of the season when already relegated; followed by more financial mismanagement over the summer, resulting in lots of DDs cancelled and money drying up. Into admin again, reduced income, and a season heading towards the third tier.

A slow, lingering death is far more enjoyable. It gives you something to laugh it from afar.

[jgl07]

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What is not a myth is Hibs lost well over a million £ in the 1st Div. Can Hertz cope with a reduction in revenue. Wouldn't think so.

I suspect we can be sure that Hearts will not be signing players of the calibre of Mixu, Latapy, and Sauzée‎ when in the Championship.

How many teams have come straight back up after relegation from the top flight in Scotland. I can only recall Dundee United (after a play-off) and Hibs doing so. And no team has had to face The Rangers at that level!

[PatHead]

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I suspect we can be sure that Hearts will not be signing players of the calibre of Mixu, Latapy, and Sauzée‎ when in the Championship.

How many teams have come straight back up after relegation from the top flight in Scotland. I can only recall Dundee United (after a play-off) and Hibs doing so. And no team has had to face The Rangers at that level!

The big difference is that the teams that finish 2nd to 4th go into a play off. It gives them a better chance of at least sneaking up.

[Stevie Reid]

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I'd imagine there'll be a lot of there squad out of contract in the summer and they're already down to the bare bones so they'd also have to build a whole new squad.

I will be a bit deflated if this Cva is accepted but I think relegation could be a big deal to them.

It's also worth noting it took dunfermline around 3 months to exit admin after a Cva was agreed and I'd have thought the hearts deal will be a lot more complicated so its not impossible they could be in admin at the end of the season, if that happens I think they'll start next season on -15 again. They're ****ed if they go down imo.

Have Dunfermline actually come out of admin yet?

[haagsehibby]

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I suspect we can be sure that Hearts will not be signing players of the calibre of Mixu, Latapy, and Sauzée‎ when in the Championship.

How many teams have come straight back up after relegation from the top flight in Scotland. I can only recall Dundee United (after a play-off) and Hibs doing so. And no team has had to face The Rangers at that level!

I thought Big Tel did it with ICT ?

[JimBHibees]

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What is not a myth is Hibs lost well over a million £ in the 1st Div. Can Hertz cope with a reduction in revenue. Wouldn't think so.

The differences of course being that Rangers will be in the League and also that the play offs will be in place where Championship positions 2,3 and 4 play off against 11 of the SPFL so IMO much easier to escape and my cynical head would be that the Authorities would like nothing more than both being back in SPFL asap.

[Ozyhibby]

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I suspect we can be sure that Hearts will not be signing players of the calibre of Mixu, Latapy, and Sauzée‎ when in the Championship.

How many teams have come straight back up after relegation from the top flight in Scotland. I can only recall Dundee United (after a play-off) and Hibs doing so. And no team has had to face The Rangers at that level!

Inverness under Butcher

[hibbymick]

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We party and open another 2000 page thread? Hearts supporters say it is what big teams do and arrange a friendly against Union Berlin because they like the name. 4000 turn up, Banderson claims it as a success.

[Billy Whizz]

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Ayr utd boxing day 14k.

I missed the 1st goal due to queues outside, was it Hartley that scored it?

[Greenworld]

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What is not a myth is Hibs lost well over a million £ in the 1st Div. Can Hertz cope with a reduction in revenue. Wouldn't think so.

If I recall correctly though hibs had a large wage bill and some top players
To get th out of that league something they would not
Have

[green glory]

Interesting to note the story on the Sky Sports site today had this bit removed an hour or so after it first appeared.

"Should a CVA not be agreed then Hearts will enter liquidation, bringing an end to 139 years of history."


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Here's the original.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Interesting to note the story on the Sky Sports site today had this bit removed an hour or so after it first appeared.

"Should a CVA not be agreed then Hearts will enter liquidation, bringing an end to 139 years of history."

Sounds like a Celtic fan at Sky on the wind-up (of Huns).

Also ignores the fact that Hearts have had their company wound-up once before (in 1905).

[Kato]

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PB

Highest attendance was 14,801
Lowest attendance was 8649

Our average was 10,433

Down 1592 from the previous season.

I think the point at the time when it was said that "crowds were up" was that more Hibs fans attended ER that season we were down.

[GreenLake]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...ater-1-3193758

Is this the sweetener that gets UBIG's CVA vote. Let HMFC off the hook and the council pumps money into a more valuable UBIG property, namely the ex Royal Bank of Scotland prime location near West Register Street which the impaler wanted to turn into a Boutique Hotel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-16490988

Perhaps it's just coincidence this comes out right before the CVA vote.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...ater-1-3193758

Is this the sweetener that gets UBIG's CVA vote. Let HMFC off the hook and the council pumps money into a more valuable UBIG property, namely the ex Royal Bank of Scotland prime location near West Register Street which the impaler wanted to turn into a Boutique Hotel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-16490988

Perhaps it's just coincidence this comes out right before the CVA vote.

No way would those filthy Yams at the council let the famous go down the swannee. It stinks - not called Edinburgh ShTTy council for nothing.

[Bostonhibby]

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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...ater-1-3193758

Is this the sweetener that gets UBIG's CVA vote. Let HMFC off the hook and the council pumps money into a more valuable UBIG property, namely the ex Royal Bank of Scotland prime location near West Register Street which the impaler wanted to turn into a Boutique Hotel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-16490988

Perhaps it's just coincidence this comes out right before the CVA vote.

Dream team of the team with no shame and the council that brought you the trams? Why not? If they do it its not even as if they care about how it looks.

[Keith_M]

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Hibs had amazing attendances in D1

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Urban Myth apparently. I'm sure someone will be along shortly with the figures to back this up.

Well, in preparation for the history re-writers...............


The attendances in the 1st Divsion were almost exactly the same as in 2011/12 & 2012/13. That's without visits from Hearts and Celtc, meaning we actually had a much higher home support in the 1st.

[Keith_M]

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It is indeed.

We had a couple of fantastic attendances of 14K+. The trophy presentation day, new year v Raith and a game v Falkirk that put us about 12 points clear by winning.

The average for the season was just over 8500 though.

The LOWEST attendance that season was 8,600.

The average was 10,433.


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[Phil D. Rolls]

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Well, in preparation for the history re-writers...............


The attendances in the 1st Divsion were almost exactly the same as in 2011/12 & 2012/13. That's without visits from Hearts and Celtc, meaning we actually had a much higher home support in the 1st.

My head hurts.

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Garbage. The LOWEST attendance that season was 8,600.

I think you'll find it was just below 8,605.

[StevieC]

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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...ater-1-3193758

Is this the sweetener that gets UBIG's CVA vote. Let HMFC off the hook and the council pumps money into a more valuable UBIG property

I don't see how.

Even if it belongs to UBIG (as I have a feeling it will be another UKIO secured loan) it will be getting offloaded at the highest price possible to pay the creditors and Lithuanian pensioners.
If anything, bringing it to light may actually damage the CVA proposal as if there is a job lot of properties in Edinburgh to be sold off then why not just add Tynecastle to the list?

[leggeto]

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I don't see how.

Even if it belongs to UBIG (as I have a feeling it will be another UKIO secured loan) it will be getting offloaded at the highest price possible to pay the creditors and Lithuanian pensioners.
If anything, bringing it to light may actually damage the CVA proposal as if there is a job lot of properties in Edinburgh to be sold off then why not just add Tynecastle to the list?

will all be tripping over drunk posties outside the penny black