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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

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  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

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  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

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  • Don't care about them

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    A sure fire way to keep the thread on the first page is by posting on it, hence your post is rather self defeating!


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    Got a piece of mail today from Ukio Bankas addressed to BDO recorded delivery hope it just says beat it we want more cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Am I the only one that is getting bored with this thread? We have just suffered one of the worst results in our history and this stuff is still on the 1st page.
    This is light relief. Definitely not boring.

    Football fans are relatively powerless on team results which is why I've never understood the posturing. Who cares if 11 young stupid people you don't know aren't good at kicking a ball around? Such is the case for 80% of football teams.

    I want to see Hearts suffer for precisely that reason. Like old firm fans they think that 11 young stupid people kicking a ball increases their self worth, which of course it doesn't.

    Being a Hibs fan is a lot more than football for me. I'd like the team to do well but they've been crap as long as I've supported them.

    This is the only thread worth reading right now as 10 000 others imagine they're playing football manager on a playstation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Am I the only one that is getting bored with this thread? We have just suffered one of the worst results in our history and this stuff is still on the 1st page.
    I'm bored of posts on this thread by people claiming they're bored of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev1875 View Post
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    I'm bored of posts on this thread by people claiming they're bored of this thread.
    This thread has the occasional lull but the dynamic of the events across the city mean they are short lived
    Last edited by Sanger; 27-07-2013 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Am I the only one that is getting bored with this thread? We have just suffered one of the worst results in our history and this stuff is still on the 1st page.
    You could always make a decision not to read it though - easy . This thread is a marathon, not a sprint like most of the others, and there's still a bit of distance to go.

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    Ive dropped the ball a bit on this thread this last few days due to more pressing concerns at Easter Road. Could any of the brilliant posters such as cropley, Caversham or desantos summarise things in a nutshell for me please? What are the likelihoods of exiting administration in tact or liquidation ?

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    Bored of this thread? No chance.
    Been too angry to visit it as much yesterday but still looked in occasionally.
    We have to remember, being gash is only semi-permanent for us, liquidation for them will be forever.

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    Re the bit about not having enough players.

    Do they not have U17, U20 as well as a first team squad.

    You cannot tell me they only have 20 players registered for the whole club.

    If Doncaster and his cronies back down on this then it's a free for all for all clubs to do as they please regardless of the supposed rules.

    They should of asked them for a guarantee and weeks ago at that...

    Simple question

    Can you fulfill this seasons fixtures

    Yes prove you have sufficient means do do so

    If you can't then bang... Cheerio... Ok let's bring in the team that finished 2nd in the 1st Div


    This debacle should of been sorted weeks ago but the SPFL being the SPFL things have dragged on and on. It's potentially to late.

    The most important thing here is the rules are adhered to and and the SPFL don't capitulate cos this sends out the wrong signal to the other clubs.

    I get a funny feeling the SPFL are going to do a u turn and lift the embargo and allow them to sign players in order for the first season if the SPFL to run smoothly.

    I really do hope I am wrong.

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    Re the bit about not having enough players.

    Do they not have U17, U20 as well as a first team squad.

    You cannot tell me they only have 20 players registered for the whole club.

    If Doncaster and his cronies back down on this then it's a free for all for all clubs to do as they please regardless of the supposed rules.

    They should of asked them for a guarantee and weeks ago at that...

    Simple question

    Can you fulfill this seasons fixtures

    Yes prove you have sufficient means do do so

    If you can't then bang... Cheerio... Ok let's bring in the team that finished 2nd in the 1st Div


    This debacle should of been sorted weeks ago but the SPFL being the SPFL things have dragged on and on. It's potentially to late.

    The most important thing here is the rules are adhered to and and the SPFL don't capitulate cos this sends out the wrong signal to the other clubs.

    I get a funny feeling the SPFL are going to do a u turn and lift the embargo and allow them to sign players in order for the first season if the SPFL to run smoothly.

    I really do hope I am wrong.

    I think if this happens then the support will vote with their feet via their chairman

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Am I the only one that is getting bored with this thread? We have just suffered one of the worst results in our history and this stuff is still on the 1st page.


    Don't click on it then.....jeezo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo View Post
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    Re the bit about not having enough players.

    Do they not have U17, U20 as well as a first team squad.

    You cannot tell me they only have 20 players registered for the whole club.

    If Doncaster and his cronies back down on this then it's a free for all for all clubs to do as they please regardless of the supposed rules.

    They should of asked them for a guarantee and weeks ago at that...

    Simple question

    Can you fulfill this seasons fixtures

    Yes prove you have sufficient means do do so

    If you can't then bang... Cheerio... Ok let's bring in the team that finished 2nd in the 1st Div


    This debacle should of been sorted weeks ago but the SPFL being the SPFL things have dragged on and on. It's potentially to late.

    The most important thing here is the rules are adhered to and and the SPFL don't capitulate cos this sends out the wrong signal to the other clubs.

    I get a funny feeling the SPFL are going to do a u turn and lift the embargo and allow them to sign players in order for the first season if the SPFL to run smoothly.

    I really do hope I am wrong.
    Why will putting them in the first division make any difference, they will mess up whatever league they are in if they cannot guarantee to complete their fixtures. If they are playing smart ***** and trying to bend the authorities arms punt them clean out of the professional leagues altogether. Simple question Mr Yam can you guarantee you will complete your fixtures? If no boot em out altogether, move everyone up a slot and bring in a new club at the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug2 View Post
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    Why will putting them in the first division make any difference, they will mess up whatever league they are in if they cannot guarantee to complete their fixtures. If they are playing smart ***** and trying to bend the authorities arms punt them clean out of the professional leagues altogether. Simple question Mr Yam can you guarantee you will complete your fixtures? If no boot em out altogether, move everyone up a slot and bring in a new club at the bottom.
    Re the bit bout relegation I'd have them punted altogether but know that wont happen. Hence the reason I said Div 1.

    The yams are trying to hold the SPFL to ransom saying they don't have enough players. PISH.

    They are at it and scurrying round for survival. They know they won't survive this season and will be relegated... Regardless IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe breezy View Post
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    This is light relief. Definitely not boring.

    Football fans are relatively powerless on team results which is why I've never understood the posturing. Who cares if 11 young stupid people you don't know aren't good at kicking a ball around? Such is the case for 80% of football teams.

    I want to see Hearts suffer for precisely that reason. Like old firm fans they think that 11 young stupid people kicking a ball increases their self worth, which of course it doesn't.

    Being a Hibs fan is a lot more than football for me. I'd like the team to do well but they've been crap as long as I've supported them.

    This is the only thread worth reading right now as 10 000 others imagine they're playing football manager on a playstation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe breezy View Post
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    This is light relief. Definitely not boring.

    Football fans are relatively powerless on team results which is why I've never understood the posturing. Who cares if 11 young stupid people you don't know aren't good at kicking a ball around? Such is the case for 80% of football teams.

    I want to see Hearts suffer for precisely that reason. Like old firm fans they think that 11 young stupid people kicking a ball increases their self worth, which of course it doesn't.

    Being a Hibs fan is a lot more than football for me. I'd like the team to do well but they've been crap as long as I've supported them.

    This is the only thread worth reading right now as 10 000 others imagine they're playing football manager on a playstation.


    I am a bit older than you then but other than that......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooster View Post
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    Ive dropped the ball a bit on this thread this last few days due to more pressing concerns at Easter Road. Could any of the brilliant posters such as cropley, Caversham or desantos summarise things in a nutshell for me please? What are the likelihoods of exiting administration in tact or liquidation ?
    My views are the same as they have always been. A relatively quick administration followed by liquidation.

    I don't know what offers there are; no-one, outside of BDO and the bidders, does. Other than what BJ said ("are the offers enough?" "No"), I don't know how acceptable they ( or any revised ones) are to the Liths.

    The freezing of UBIG's assets is still a fundamental issue. Although they have had an administrator appointed this week, the unfreezing of the assets is still only in the power of the Lith government.

    I won't get into rash predictions as to when the end will happen. I will leave that to others.

    The end of my nutshell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooster View Post
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    Ive dropped the ball a bit on this thread this last few days due to more pressing concerns at Easter Road. Could any of the brilliant posters such as cropley, Caversham or desantos summarise things in a nutshell for me please? What are the likelihoods of exiting administration in tact or liquidation ?
    We have the bids now clarified. Bob and FOH offering to little in CVA and Massone offering bottom end of range in CVA but real questions as to how he would fund the running of club never mind fit and proper person. With UBIG administrator appointed we have to wait 10 days to see if appeal (a week on MondaY). At that point BDO can speak to both Ukio and UBIG's administrators who are in reality being directed by Lithuanian state as they picked up £200m bill for bailing out Ukio. According Insolvency News the Lith's want land value of Tynie. BDO think will advise that Massone is not likely to be able to run business on a healthy basis and two other CVAs too low. Having prised the bidders out and find they all fall short think they will have to liquidation to test the market for actually buying Tynie. Unlikely that UBIG will appeal as it was they that put them self in voluntary liquidation. I am expecting all this to develop and move to liquidation by end August. Lith state would freeze proceeds from Tynie sale until Romanov fraud trial/investigation concluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Am I the only one that is getting bored with this thread? We have just suffered one of the worst results in our history and this stuff is still on the 1st page.
    Some of us can focus on more than one thing at a time, and countless threads calling for Farmer/Petrie/Fenlon/PlayerX/EastMains/Fans/TamMcCourt to go get a little repetitive.

    And this is a deliberate bump.
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    The SPFL have them back on 1st August reference going into Adminstration, for the same offence DUnfermline got a long signing ban and the rangers got a fine.
    3 options avaialbe for punishment -
    Fine. BDO are pleading not for one
    Ban. They are now claiming they havent a big enough squad can they sign players
    Censure. What the heck does this mean as a punishment ?
    Seems the Yams want censure but what does this entail - a bollocking what ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    Some of us can focus on more than one thing at a time, and countless threads calling for Farmer/Petrie/Fenlon/PlayerX/EastMains/Fans/TamMcCourt to go get a little repetitive.

    And this is a deliberate bump.
    Must admit after Thursday found that very difficult and still hurting badly but we came back from losing 7-0 at Ibrox to beat Hearts. Next week will be better as Yams saga continues to unfold and we lift ourselves for Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desantos0773 View Post
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    Must admit after Thursday found that very difficult and still hurting badly but we came back from losing 7-0 at Ibrox to beat Hearts. Next week will be better as Yams saga continues to unfold and we lift ourselves for Sunday.
    True, but that game was only 2-0 until Hunter was sent off. Looking forward to the feelgood factor on here after the derby though.
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    Jeezo... This thread has slipped to number 24 on the listings. Can we get back to what we do best and look forward at the demise of HMFC rather than our own clubs shortcomings?!?

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    If they don't have enough players to fulfill their fixtures in the top league surely they can't do so in any division. Just get them to ****.

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    True, but that game was only 2-0 until Hunter was sent off. Looking forward to the feelgood factor on here after the derby though.
    As a survivor of that trip, I can confidently tell you nobody was sent off. We'd actually beaten them on the previous trip (Jacksona pen) so hopes were fairly high beforehand. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    As a survivor of that trip, I can confidently tell you nobody was sent off. We'd actually beaten them on the previous trip (Jacksona pen) so hopes were fairly high beforehand. :-(
    Was at the 1-0, Chris Jacksons best game for us, wasn't at the 7-0 but karma got me on Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    As a survivor of that trip, I can confidently tell you nobody was sent off. We'd actually beaten them on the previous trip (Jacksona pen) so hopes were fairly high beforehand. :-(
    If my memory serves me well it was a couple of seasons earlier we were still reasonably close to Rangers(IL) and Hunter got sent off for being fouled by Hateley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    As a survivor of that trip, I can confidently tell you nobody was sent off. We'd actually beaten them on the previous trip (Jacksona pen) so hopes were fairly high beforehand. :-(
    I was the last to leave that day
    Think it was the day gazza was booked for booking the ref
    We were turned over that day by a team that had a lot of talented individuals (some of whom were capable of being top class ie laudrup Gascogne) and they had a day where it all clicked

    On Thursday just past we weren't facing any of that, we were just clueless gutless spineless and rudderless

    That's why I left at half time on Thursday

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    Hearts lost 1-0 to a Liverpool XI this afternoon, think it was mainly a Liverpool youth team.

    Tapping was stretchered off, not sure what the injury was but may be a bad one and most of them think he is one of their best 3 players.

    Hope he is ok or they'll be down to only 19 players for the start of next season.

    Seemingly Tapping went down in agony after twisting his knee in an innocuous challenge with Jordan Lussey. The midfielder was stretchered off after lengthy treatment, so not looking good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    As a survivor of that trip, I can confidently tell you nobody was sent off. We'd actually beaten them on the previous trip (Jacksona pen) so hopes were fairly high beforehand. :-(
    And it was bloody freezing

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    The SPFL have them back on 1st August reference going into Adminstration, for the same offence DUnfermline got a long signing ban and the rangers got a fine.
    3 options avaialbe for punishment -
    Fine. BDO are pleading not for one
    Ban. They are now claiming they havent a big enough squad can they sign players
    Censure. What the heck does this mean as a punishment ?
    Seems the Yams want censure but what does this entail - a bollocking what ?
    Rest assured my friend if this is all they get i will be bombarding them with letters and E Mails demanding an explenation.

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