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**~~Judas Iscariot~~** · 12-07-2013 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

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On 1, it's a gamble sure, but by accepting the first or second bid, that's putting out a signal that all players can be bought for pennies.

On 2, by all accounts they do have cash to make it to the start of the season. IIRC, Trevor Birch said they have enough to make it to Christmas.

Cheers

On another note..

Does anyone know why NONE of their preseason games have been played at the Saville-dome?!

**Hibee87** · 12-07-2013 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

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Cheers

On another note..

Does anyone know why NONE of their preseason games have been played at the Saville-dome?!

Same reason as NONE of ours have been played at E.R

**SquashedFrogg** · 12-07-2013 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Treadstone

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I'm taking it as Forest letting Holt know the score before he TUPEs over to a Newco.

This...

I suspect the vultures have been circling for a while and are beginning to decend/make their presence known to certain players...

Loving it

**Dashing Bob S** · 12-07-2013 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by grunt

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It would be interesting to know how much that bid was...

"I'm given to believe its a high four figure sum."

**SquashedFrogg** · 12-07-2013 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Hibee87

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Same reason as NONE of ours have been played at E.R

Preseason games are generally gash and a waste of money. Trips away can be fun but home games are normally dull.

Perhaps only having euro games at er will generate more interest and increased attendance/income?

Dunno?

**Treadstone** · 12-07-2013 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S

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"I'm given to believe its a high four figure sum."

STV understands £75k. I'm not surprised its been knocked back, that is a bit low. Holt looks decent to me.

**BarneyK** · 12-07-2013 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S

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"I'm given to believe its a high four figure sum."

£9,999?

He's no worth that much surely.

***Lester B*** · 12-07-2013 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Treadstone

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I'm taking it as Forest letting Holt know the score before he TUPEs over to a Newco.

Would he TUPE over automatically? There would be some dubiety here at least surely. Can anyone remember what the situation re TUPE and Rangers was?

**BarneyK** · 12-07-2013 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

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Cheers

On another note..

Does anyone know why NONE of their preseason games have been played at the Saville-dome?!

It's an unnecessary cost, especially if you can get the other side to split the gate with you anyway at their ground.

Originally Posted by Lester B

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Would he TUPE over automatically? There would be some dubiety here at least surely. Can anyone remember what the situation re TUPE and Rangers was?

Aye, Sevco done whatever they wanted regardless of other folks' perception of the rules.

**Dashing Bob S** · 12-07-2013 11:39 AM

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STV understands £75k. I'm not surprised its been knocked back, that is a bit low. Holt looks decent to me.

They are probably waiting for them to go to 90k so they can exaggerate and claim it was 100k or better, a "six figure sum".

That poor big team. What happened to those CL wins, World Cup stars, new stands and fanbase of 400,000? It seems so long ago now...it's almost like it never really happened.

**Hibee87** · 12-07-2013 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Lester B

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Would he TUPE over automatically? There would be some dubiety here at least surely. Can anyone remember what the situation re TUPE and Rangers was?

I think rangers players had the option to move accross or walk away, I Cant remember who walked but a couple did and went to england, then did rangers not say they were unable to play pending a court hearing as they were trying to claim they were duy compo of some sorts

**~~Judas Iscariot~~** · 12-07-2013 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Hibee87

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Same reason as NONE of ours have been played at E.R

And that is?

***Lester B*** · 12-07-2013 11:52 AM

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I think rangers players had the option to move accross or walk away, I Cant remember who walked but a couple did and went to england, then did rangers not say they were unable to play pending a court hearing as they were trying to claim they were duy compo of some sorts

Thanks!

So it wasn't an actual TUPE situation, thought not. Couldn't really be as sevco was a new company although they could make a claim that they had the assets of the previous company i.e. Greyskull, so could attempt a challenge that it was a related undertaking. If HMFC do liquidate and sell PBS they wouldn't even have that straw to cling to so it would be a blank slate in terms of new employment contracts. The entire squad, what is left of it, could choose to walk.

Probably not the biggest worry they have at the moment mind you!

**Hibee87** · 12-07-2013 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

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And that is?

Sorry just re read my post and realised it is slightly confusing as if I knew............

what I meant to say was NONE of ours have been at home either.

**ScottB** · 12-07-2013 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Hibee87

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I think rangers players had the option to move accross or walk away, I Cant remember who walked but a couple did and went to england, then did rangers not say they were unable to play pending a court hearing as they were trying to claim they were duy compo of some sorts

Think they took Whittaker, Naysmith and others to court over it. Nothing happened.

**JeMeSouviens** · 12-07-2013 12:01 PM

NewHuns lost the TUPE case and ended up with only a legal bill to show for their efforts:

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...ute/#more-3437

**BarneyK** · 12-07-2013 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

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NewHuns lost the TUPE case and ended up with only a legal bill to show for their efforts:

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...ute/#more-3437

Pleasing

***Hibbyradge*** · 12-07-2013 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

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And that is?

I think we have to pay for decent teams to play at Easter Road and there's the policing costs etc too.

We don't get big enough crowds to cover those expenses.

We either break even or make a few bob when we play away.

**Gus Fring** · 12-07-2013 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

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I think we have to pay for decent teams to play at Easter Road and there's the policing costs etc too.

We don't get big enough crowds to cover those expenses.

We either break even or make a few bob when we play away.

The added bonus is it gives the newly relaid pitch time to bed in

**Springbank** · 12-07-2013 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bajillions

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The added bonus is it gives the newly relaid pitch time to bed in

Tells a story about the traditions of the two teams

Hibs hold off to let the pitch settle, as the ball will spend time there

Hearts hold off to give the old stand roof some respite...

**Onion** · 12-07-2013 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Springbank

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Tells a story about the traditions of the two teams

Hibs hold off to let the pitch settle, as the ball will spend time there

Hearts hold off to give the old stand roof some respite...

As the wrecking ball will be visiting shortly ;)

**~~Judas Iscariot~~** · 12-07-2013 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

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I think we have to pay for decent teams to play at Easter Road and there's the policing costs etc too.

We don't get big enough crowds to cover those expenses.

We either break even or make a few bob when we play away.

I see..

I was hoping there was an issue with their ground... Main stand safety certificate for example

**Moon unit** · 12-07-2013 01:08 PM

Is there any truth that the FOH bid was in a box containing shiny beads,mirrors and fools gold. Ian Murray ....M.P! Was last seen dressed as Christopher Columbus on the Gorgie Rd looking for the BDO natives situated on the shores of the PBS!....

Apparently he exchanged his box of trinkets for Big chief BDO's daughter...Poka-Hun-Tis !!!..

**hibeedonald** · 12-07-2013 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

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On 1, it's a gamble sure, but by accepting the first or second bid, that's putting out a signal that all players can be bought for pennies.

On 2, by all accounts they do have cash to make it to the start of the season. IIRC, Trevor Birch said they have enough to make it to Christmas.

Can see a lot of young Hearts fans missing out on their Christmas presents if that's when they next go begging again.

**PatHead** · 12-07-2013 02:12 PM

Hope the SFA take such a hard line. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23259898

**Gus Fring** · 12-07-2013 02:58 PM

No new bids yet, for anyone wondering.

***CyberSauzee*** · 12-07-2013 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Bajillions

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The bit in bold is the biggest flaw in the FOH's plan. Football fans have a tendency to be incredibly reactive.

Say Hearts got pumped from us in the first Derby. Some fair weather fans would cancel their Direct Debits.

Say Hearts get to December and are rooted to the bottom of the league. More fair weather fans would cancel their Direct Debits.

Say Hearts get relegated, Even more fair weather fans would cancel their Direct Debits.

It's way more likely they'll lose donations than they'll gain them.

You're right. FoH are a confused bunch with no clear aim of what they are trying to do.

They're going on about membership schemes that mimic European giants like Bayern, Real Madrid, Barca, Benfica, etc. The difference is that all of these schemes require you to pay your money up front, then you're a member for the year.

FoH are requiring income per month on an on-going basis, and as you and countless others have pointed out, this income can dry up literally overnight if enough DDs are cancelled. There is no contract, so how can you base a business model on a non-guaranteed income stream?

**YehButNoBut** · 12-07-2013 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bajillions

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No new bids yet, for anyone wondering.

There's a thread on Keekback where they're all bricking it as someone has it on good authority that a consortium led by Massone has submitted an offer to BDO today.

Hopefully true and it trumps the FOH bid to become preferred bidder.

http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....30306-massone/