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**ScottB** · 30-06-2013 03:15 PM

While Hearts may not be 'breaking' any rules by doing this, what are BDO up to? How does adding another expense to a club that they claimed had zero in the back lead to a better result for the creditors?

Starting to reek of Duff & Duffer me thinks...

***Ozyhibby*** · 30-06-2013 03:17 PM

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It's not the point whether he is good or crap, it's morally wrong that this can happen. It's staggering the silence that has come from the SPL and SFA since those grunts went into administration.

They haven't been silent.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/defa...2&newsid=12386

***Spike Mandela*** · 30-06-2013 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by bingo70

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Why will they get a transfer embargo lifted when the old rangers or dunfermline never?

Rangers got a transfer embargo that wasn't whilst Dunfermline are an SFL club so the SFA weren't scared to come down on them. They like to show the little teams they can act tough.

***Spike Mandela*** · 30-06-2013 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by ScottB

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While Hearts may not be 'breaking' any rules by doing this, what are BDO up to? How does adding another expense to a club that they claimed had zero in the back lead to a better result for the creditors?

Starting to reek of Duff & Duffer me thinks...

They will argue they are adding value to the club for any potential buyer and have a player with a potential sell on value on a 3 year contract.

***3pm*** · 30-06-2013 03:24 PM

The signing of Danny Wilson in isolation won't make that much of a difference.

**CorrieHibs** · 30-06-2013 03:30 PM

Old rangers, embargo was a piece of nonsense. It started in September 2012 meaning they could sign players up to that date. They're signing players now and will play them as trialists! SFA are a total joke and we're a laughing stock around Europe. The same will happen to Hearts. As I said they're the luckiest team on the planet and nothing will surprise with them.

**~~Hibs7~~** · 30-06-2013 03:32 PM

It is morally wrong .. But then again we knew they had no morals !

***bingo70*** · 30-06-2013 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Liam Miller

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Old rangers, embargo was a piece of nonsense. It started in September 2012 meaning they could sign players up to that date. They're signing players now and will play them as trialists! SFA are a total joke and we're a laughing stock around Europe. The same will happen to Hearts. As I said they're the luckiest team on the planet and nothing will surprise with them.

Is it not the rule though that while a club is in administration they can't sign players? The rangers weren't in administration, they started again. I think for what you're suggesting basically hearts need to come out of administration before the transfer window slams shut?

***Spike Mandela*** · 30-06-2013 03:37 PM

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Is it not the rule though that while a club is in administration they can't sign players? The rangers weren't in administration, they started again. I think for what you're suggesting basically hearts need to come out of administration before the transfer window slams shut?

The SFA sanction is still to be issued and is over and above the automatic embargo for entering administration under SPL rules.

**CorrieHibs** · 30-06-2013 03:39 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...r-embargo.html

The Rangers were given a transfer embargo.

**YehButNoBut** · 30-06-2013 03:40 PM

Can't see what anyone is bothered about with Wilson, they seemed to have used a technicality to retain his registration and the Yams seem to think they have "won a watch".

They are still in for a huge fall, this will just make it funnier and they couldn't beat us last season with Wilson in a better side than they have now, they're still doomed to relegation, if they survive that long.

***bingo70*** · 30-06-2013 03:44 PM

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...r-embargo.html

The Rangers were given a transfer embargo.

I know they were. I'm not sure why as they were a new company/club, but this was over and above the automatic punishment for the old company going into administration. Were the rules not lapsed as if they never then the new club wouldn't have had any players?

Doesn't change my other point that i think for hearts to be able to sign players they have to come out of administration which i think is unlikely this summer.

**hibbypostie** · 30-06-2013 03:56 PM

There is defo something going on with this thread alot of posts are missing and they were not rude and wereto do with this topic

**kaimendhibs** · 30-06-2013 03:59 PM

I was thinking the same thing! Why are lots of posts missing?

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**monteddie** · 30-06-2013 04:01 PM

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Can't see what anyone is bothered about with Wilson, they seemed to have used a technicality to retain his registration and the Yams seem to think they have "won a watch".

They are still in for a huge fall, this will just make it funnier and they couldn't beat us last season with Wilson in a better side than they have now, they're still doomed to relegation, if they survive that long.

In all honesty I wish them all the suffering and humiliationthat the Romorov era has brought them however we do have to be careful for whatwe wish for , I think the 15 point deduction for this season will be ample to put them down, then next season they will be up against Rangers for promotion so in all likelihood they will spend 2 years out with the SPL , regardless I believe this may not seem punishment enough in the eyes of some people but can we as a club afford to miss revenue from 4 home derby’s over the next 2 seasons this ontop of the revenues we are missing from Rangers, we don’t want to cut off ourown nose to spite our face!

**Matt92** · 30-06-2013 04:02 PM

Hearts have not broken any rules in this signing, it is seemingly completely legal.
You can't blame them for doing anything to sign a player out of desperation as they know they are doomed for relegation, its more a case of a wounded animal which is trying every last trick and energy source to survive and wriggle free.

Sure, there are significant moral implications of this signing given their recent and fairly high-profile redundancies of non-playing staff. However, as all of us know, they are a club who have no honour, no morals, no class and no hope. They will get whats coming to them, this is just one of many desperate attempts to come over the next few weeks. By galvanising the hearts support and giving them a glimmer of hope, it may boost their revenue that slight bit further, however I doubt it and reckon this will just hinder them further in the longrun as they must cut wages, not add in the slightest!!

**Part/Time Supporter** · 30-06-2013 04:03 PM

Posts relating to FOH or Ian Murray are being moved here

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?2...rray-MP-thread

Posts relating to the council building a stadium for Hearts, or them sharing with Hibs, are being moved here

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?2...-and-or-Hearts

**josef k** · 30-06-2013 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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They haven't been silent.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/defa...2&newsid=12386

They have been about this though:
http://www.scotprem.com/content/defa...2360&back=home

Would like to know when the hearing will be taking place. All that has been mentioned in the press is possible punishment from the SFA but they also broke SPL rules on the 14th June and are also due punishment for this.

***Spike Mandela*** · 30-06-2013 04:25 PM

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They have been about this though:
http://www.scotprem.com/content/defa...2360&back=home

Would like to know when the hearing will be taking place. All that has been mentioned in the press is possible punishment from the SFA but they also broke SPL rules on the 14th June and are also due punishment for this.

The SPL no longer exist, so guess what will happen.

johnbc70 · 30-06-2013 04:33 PM

How bad must things be for Wilson that he is still happy to sign for them. A few years ago he was playing for Scotland and on verge of move to big premiership club, now he must have no other offers and has fallen down the footballing tree so spectacularly he is signing for a club in administration and starting bottom of the SPL by 15 points.

**Beefster** · 30-06-2013 04:36 PM

Has Danny Wilson ever played in a Hearts team that's beaten Hibs? That's how useful he is to them - they were hoping he would go elsewhere before they went down the tubes and only had youth players left.

**jdships** · 30-06-2013 04:42 PM

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How bad must things be for Wilson that he is still happy to sign for them. A few years ago he was playing for Scotland and on verge of move to big premiership club, now he must have no other offers and has fallen down the footballing tree so spectacularly he is signing for a club in administration and starting bottom of the SPL by 15 points.

Good post !!
One wonders at his agent's credibility
From English Premiership to Scottish SPL 2 in two seasons and the loss of earnings that goes with it

Strange one

**FranckSuzy** · 30-06-2013 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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They haven't been silent.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/defa...2&newsid=12386

I particularly like this bit......."As a result, the Player’s existing SPFL Registration is automatically extended and is not affected by the embargo on new SPFL Player Registrations currently in place on Heart of Midlothian FC as a result of Heart of Midlothian plc (in administration) being in administration". I believe 'pleasing' is the term

***marinello59*** · 30-06-2013 05:21 PM

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Good post !!
One wonders at his agent's credibility
From English Premiership to Scottish SPL 2 in two seasons and the loss of earnings that goes with it

Strange one

Maybe he has been promised a very large percentage of any fee received when they sell him next month. Not that he will fetch that much.

**FranckSuzy** · 30-06-2013 05:23 PM

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Mid year review of the Hearts 2013 calender.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIWm5G5srKA

johnbc70 · 30-06-2013 05:29 PM

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Maybe he has been promised a very large percentage of any fee received when they sell him next month. Not that he will fetch that much.

Why would anyone buy him next month when they have had 2 weeks to get him for free? The boy must have no other offers, was bad enough he was signing for them in the first place but now he is signing on significantly lower wages means he must have been desperate.

**~~Saorsa~~** · 30-06-2013 05:32 PM

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Why would anyone buy him next month when they have had 2 weeks to get him for free? The boy must have no other offers, was bad enough he was signing for them in the first place but now he is signing on significantly lower wages means he must have been desperate.

Maybe they'll buy him from themselves with lots of somebody else's money