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[Saorsa]

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Should be the thread avatar....he deserves one of his own

great idea

[Pete]

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Really? Theyll be above us by october!!! Big teams ken whits goan oan

Once they come out of administration debt-free, they will get back to "pumping the wee team".

Deep down they must realise that this elevated status is down to their overspending and it's all linked. Surely they can't be that stupid and know that there will be years of green domination.

My eyes hurt after reading that kickback. Is there anything they won't raffle?

[Ozyhibby]

How are the crowds doing down at the PBS. I have to go out later, should do a detour to avoid the congestion in Gorgie?

The current settled dream team for the yams is

McDonald
Hammil McKay McGowan McHattie
Paterson Tapping/Robinson Holt Walker
Stevenson
Carrick

There are no alternative line ups being offered as nobody has seen any of the other players play.
I still don't think they will start the season but it would be fun to watch them with that team for a season.

[gackohibs]

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How are the crowds doing down at the PBS. I have to go out later, should do a detour to avoid the congestion in Gorgie?

The current settled dream team for the yams is

McDonald
Hammil McKay McGowan McHattie
Paterson Tapping/Robinson Holt Walker
Stevenson
Carrick

There are no alternative line ups being offered as nobody has seen any of the other players play.
I still don't think they will start the season but it would be fun to watch them with that team for a season.

How will we compete without the thumb?? Forever in their shadow...

[Pete]

"forever in our shadow". There's another phrase that they have repeated so many times that they actually believe it.

Here's one they can repeat until it sinks in:

"overspending since Mercer"

That one is actually a fact though.

[The Leith Dutch]

Only just noticed the BBC have adjusted next season's table to reflect the -15
This has made for a happy start to my Saturday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

[YehButNoBut]

Feel today & tomorrow may be make or break for the Jambos, they are only half way to their total of 3,000 season tickets and any not sold after this weekend are likely to remain that way (except for the odd few).

They will be well short of reaching their target of around £750k so not sure where that leaves them, but it's not in a good place.

Left with a poor squad and a useless manager (who is only there as he was the cheapest option) with no assistant I think it's now the fun really begins, can't wait.

Love this picture in todays Sun article, looks like he's going to burst into tears.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...to-safety.html

[gackohibs]

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Feel today & tomorrow may be make or break for the Jambos, they are only half way to their total of 3,000 season tickets and any not sold after this weekend are likely to remain that way (except for the odd few).

They will be well short of reaching their target of around £750k so not sure where that leaves them, but it's not in a good place.

Left with a poor squad and a useless manager (who is only there as he was the cheapest option) with no assistant I think it's now the fun really begins, can't wait.

Love this picture in todays Sun article, looks like he's going to burst into tears.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...to-safety.html

[greenginger]

Just back from a walk through inspection of activities at Yam Central.

Two people getting tickets of some description at that ticket window (They don't even have the side door open so they can't be expecting queues ).

I think I saw Gary Cock talking to a couple of staff and there are a few folk milling about outside.

Yam garden gnomes are still available.

[Ozyhibby]

If they don't shift another 750 today and tomorrow then they are not going to make their target. Whether BDO shut them down or not, we will have to wait and see.

[Deansy]

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Once they come out of administration debt-free, they will get back to "pumping the wee team".

Deep down they must realise that this elevated status is down to their overspending and it's all linked. Surely they can't be that stupid and know that there will be years of green domination.

My eyes hurt after reading that kickback. Is there anything they won't raffle?

That's their problem - they don't !!. They have 2/3 generations of supporters who've been brought up actually thinking that their level is, and has always been, what they perceive it to be now. They either don't listen to the 'older-heads' or(which is more than likely), their 'older-heads' are quite happy to say nothing and let them carry on dreaming !!. Our problem (imho) is we're taking it for granted we're gonna hammer them IF they make it to Aug 10 - too often Hibs have shot themselves in the foot when it comes to these f*dds. Over the years, even their foreign mercenaries have got what it means to win the derby and one thing for sure is 'P*ss-Boy' Locke will have both players (young/old - good/crap)and fans fired up like no derby before. One thing we'll miss about Leigh is that as a Hibee, he'd have been able to explain to our new/younger players exactly how these b****s have 'went about things' over the last 3 decades - would've made a great incentive !!

[sidneyhibbie]

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If they don't shift another 750 today and tomorrow then they are not going to make their target. Whether BDO shut them down or not, we will have to wait and see.

Hopefully BDO Will do the right thing when the fail to hit the miserly target of 3000 tickets sold they are saying they have sold 1500 so far if they get another 500 mugs to buy i will be astonished BDO Will have no choice other than to make more cuts Liquidation is the only horse in town for the yams.

[rcarter1]

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That's their problem - they don't !!. They have 2/3 generations of supporters who've been brought up actually thinking that their level is, and has always been, what they perceive it to be now. They either don't listen to the 'older-heads' or(which is more than likely), their 'older-heads' are quite happy to say nothing and let them carry on dreaming !!. Our problem (imho) is we're taking it for granted we're gonna hammer them IF they make it to Aug 10 - too often Hibs have shot themselves in the foot when it comes to these f*dds. Over the years, even their foreign mercenaries have got what it means to win the derby and one thing for sure is 'P*ss-Boy' Locke will have both players (young/old - good/crap)and fans fired up like no derby before. One thing we'll miss about Leigh is that as a Hibee, he'd have been able to explain to our new/younger players exactly how these b****s have 'went about things' over the last 3 decades - would've made a great incentive !!

Agree with this, Hibs will need to take Hearts seriously next year - if only to fulfil the fans inflated expectations that we will hammer them. The season after next gets interesting as if they survive the season, they SHOULD be much stronger than they are now. It is our duty as Hibees, to ensure we do everything to contribute to their relegation. Our derby mentality has been improving with Pat, and Im sure he will have the players properly psyched for these games. Its 11 vs 11 after all, and we've lost to poor sides in the past.

Meanwhile bring on the 12th of July...

[Hibernia Na Eir]

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If they don't shift another 750 today and tomorrow then they are not going to make their target. Whether BDO shut them down or not, we will have to wait and see.

do you HONESTLY think they will?

No chance, unfortunately.

[Ozyhibby]

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do you HONESTLY think they will?

No chance, unfortunately.

Not saying you are wrong but why 'no chance'?

[FranckSuzy]

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That's their problem - they don't !!. They have 2/3 generations of supporters who've been brought up actually thinking that their level is, and has always been, what they perceive it to be now. They either don't listen to the 'older-heads' or(which is more than likely), their 'older-heads' are quite happy to say nothing and let them carry on dreaming !!. Our problem (imho) is we're taking it for granted we're gonna hammer them IF they make it to Aug 10 - too often Hibs have shot themselves in the foot when it comes to these f*dds. Over the years, even their foreign mercenaries have got what it means to win the derby and one thing for sure is 'P*ss-Boy' Locke will have both players (young/old - good/crap)and fans fired up like no derby before. One thing we'll miss about Leigh is that as a Hibee, he'd have been able to explain to our new/younger players exactly how these b****s have 'went about things' over the last 3 decades - would've made a great incentive !!

100% with that and the rest of your post.

[lord bunberry]

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do you HONESTLY think they will?

No chance, unfortunately.

If they run out of money or nobody wants to buy them they will :)

[Onion]

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do you HONESTLY think they will?

No chance, unfortunately.

Expect BDO would have overstated the 3000 ST target by some margin, as they would be hammered if for example they closed the club down if they sold say 2500 STs. Next step for them is to see where additional savings can be made if (as likely) they fall short of the £750k needed. More staff cuts, maybe more player cuts or sales and pleading to the SPL, SFA, Council, sponsors, press and anyone else for more money to keep them alive in intensive care.

They must also be pretty confident that one of the bids is likely to succeed or a CVA agreed.

In effect BDO have made a rod for their own backs by talking up their hopes. God help them if they fail to get them through Admin and have to liquidate. They'll have their offices burned to the ground by those nutters.

[steakbake]

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Expect BDO would have overstated the 3000 ST target by some margin, as they would be hammered if for example they closed the club down if they sold say 2500 STs. Next step for them is to see where additional savings can be made if (as likely) they fall short of the £750k needed. More staff cuts, maybe more player cuts or sales and pleading to the SPL, SFA, Council, sponsors, press and anyone else for more money to keep them alive in intensive care.

They must also be pretty confident that one of the bids is likely to succeed or a CVA agreed.

In effect BDO have made a rod for their own backs by talking up their hopes. God help them if they fail to get them through Admin and have to liquidate. They'll have their offices burned to the ground by those nutters.

No they won't. What is singularly missing from pretty much the last few years at the PBS is that the fans are impotent, meek and compliant. Apart from a skanky bedsheet with illiterate scrawl and a few Russian hats being kicked in a car park, there has been no dissent at all. A conveyor belt of managers, the embarrassment of things going on behind the scenes, players vilified when they've had enough of not being paid...

Any criticism of Vlad on kickback has been met with derision and posters being shot down in flames.

If it all goes tits up, I expect the jambos will be left making their wee hand signals, too obsessed about the wee team, furrowing their Neanderthal brows deciding whether it was worth it or not, jibbering about special relationships with EPL clubs and the big cup and with loads of cupcakes to eat that went unsold at bake sales.

Judging by the denial and indignation that admin has been met with IF they are liquidated, it'll be with a whimper.

[WeAreHibs]

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No they won't. What is singularly missing from pretty much the last few years at the PBS is that the fans are impotent, meek and compliant. Apart from a skanky bedsheet with illiterate scrawl and a few Russian hats being kicked in a car park, there has been no dissent at all. A conveyor belt of managers, the embarrassment of things going on behind the scenes, players vilified when they've had enough of not being paid...

Any criticism of Vlad on kickback has been met with derision and posters being shot down in flames.

If it all goes tits up, I expect the jambos will be left making their wee hand signals, too obsessed about the wee team, furrowing their Neanderthal brows deciding whether it was worth it or not, jibbering about special relationships with EPL clubs and the big cup and with loads of cupcakes to eat that went unsold at bake sales.

IF they are liquidated, it'll be with a whimper.

[kdhibees1]

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No they won't. What is singularly missing from pretty much the last few years at the PBS is that the fans are impotent, meek and compliant. Apart from a skanky bedsheet with illiterate scrawl and a few Russian hats being kicked in a car park, there has been no dissent at all. A conveyor belt of managers, the embarrassment of things going on behind the scenes, players vilified when they've had enough of not being paid...

Any criticism of Vlad on kickback has been met with derision and posters being shot down in flames.

If it all goes tits up, I expect the jambos will be left making their wee hand signals, too obsessed about the wee team, furrowing their Neanderthal brows deciding whether it was worth it or not, jibbering about special relationships with EPL clubs and the big cup and with loads of cupcakes to eat that went unsold at bake sales.

IF they are liquidated, it'll be with a whimper.

Fantastic post!!!

[The Falcon]

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Expect BDO would have overstated the 3000 ST target by some margin, as they would be hammered if for example they closed the club down if they sold say 2500 STs. Next step for them is to see where additional savings can be made if (as likely) they fall short of the £750k needed. More staff cuts, maybe more player cuts or sales and pleading to the SPL, SFA, Council, sponsors, press and anyone else for more money to keep them alive in intensive care.

I dont know if their figures are accurate or not but if they cant sell 3k season tickets when their very existence depends on it, then the message this sends to anyone wanting to spend/risk their personal wealth is crystal clear.

[sidneyhibbie]

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I dont know if their figures are accurate or not but if they cant sell 3k season tickets when their very existence depends on it, then the message this sends to anyone wanting to spend/risk their personal wealth is crystal clear.

This 3000 season ticket sales is a ploy to get money in to cover BDOs fees, even if some mad consortium can manage to bid a million at the point of sale the major creditors beween them are due 25 million they wont accept the cva and its liquidation and all this effort to get 3000 sales will be lost on BDOs fees.
They must have their heads in the sand to not see the obvious.

[Caversham Green]

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do you HONESTLY think they will?

No chance, unfortunately.

Rather than 'no chance', it'll be 'no choice' if they don't bring in enough money.

The 3,000 season tickets isn't really the target though, the gist of what BDO were saying is that ST sales were 3,000 down from last year and if those fans bought this year they expected to have enough money to make it to the start of the season. They will have other avenues as well, but they are very limited.

The bottom line is they need a certain amount of money to keep HoMFC open. If they don't have it they will have no option but to close down. Why is that so difficult to understand?

[Spike Mandela]

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Rather than 'no chance', it'll be 'no choice' if they don't bring in enough money.

The 3,000 season tickets isn't really the target though, the gist of what BDO were saying is that ST sales were 3,000 down from last year and if those fans bought this year they expected to have enough money to make it to the start of the season. They will have other avenues as well, but they are very limited.

The bottom line is they need a certain amount of money to keep HoMFC open. If they don't have it they will have no option but to close down. Why is that so difficult to understand?

If there is a shortfall next weekend BDO will make 'yet another' appeal and no doubt something or some mystery benefactor will plug the shortfall.

Hearts won't fold because BDO run out of money before season, no chance imo. Administration process will run it's course to either CVA or liquidation and newco.

[cocopops1875]

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Once they come out of administration debt-free, they will get back to "pumping the wee team".

Deep down they must realise that this elevated status is down to their overspending and it's all linked. Surely they can't be that stupid and know that there will be years of green domination.

My eyes hurt after reading that kickback. Is there anything they won't raffle?

Na mate raffle daft that lot, though ***** donation was their real low point I felt

[Thecat23]

I want one more derby against that mob. I don't think we will hammer them like others do but I do think we will win. Then after that they can just die off. Wouldn't be missed at all by anyone.

Their fans mostly the younger ones are so full of it they actually think the team is on par with the likes of Liverpool. So when it does go tits up just think all their sons and daughters will Prob grow up Hibs fans. In the words of the Yams this is...... PLEASING! :D

[johnrebus]

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1-5 mate. It was all worth it.

They're at -15 points and its not even July!

Thing is, how do they know if, 'It was all worth it'?

The end game is still to be played out, nobody really knows at this stage if it will be the SPL ( minus 15 points), Division Three or oblivion that awaits them next season.

Will yer average Yam think,'Yeah, it was worth it', when he is trailing round the new Tesco Tynecastle with the wife on a Saturday afternoon with no team to watch?

Somehow, I doubt it.

[mayo hibee]

It was never 3000 or bust, it was 3000 or more cutbacks. The likes of Hamill, McDonald, Stevenson, even Locke maybe, might have to be made redundant in the next few weeks. Who else is left from their coaching staff at this stage? They might not be there for too long.

Were there not four other players to be let go as well, did they ever announce who those four were?

[YehButNoBut]

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Only just noticed the BBC have adjusted next season's table to reflect the -15
This has made for a happy start to my Saturday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Irvine Welsh & Terry Christian from Twitter

Irvine Welsh ‏@WelshIrvine @terrychristian Take a sketch at that table, Terry. And that's as good as its going to get for them. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish-premier/table …

Vince Atta ‏@vinceatta
@WelshIrvine @terrychristian mate if this was cITY I'd be wan king into a sock right now.

terry christian ‏@terrychristian
@vinceatta @WelshIrvine We've seen them plummet to the depths though and it felt hollow and they came back even more bitter :-)

Irvine Welsh ‏@WelshIrvine
@terrychristian @vinceatta Yes, you need the rivalry. But they've fu***d themselves, not us, so I refuse to lament their predicament.