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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

    171 11.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Pishy Locke now begging Swally Ally to bring the big huns to the savilledome for a glamour friendly.
    With halftime entertainment involving Broxie Bear and Hearty Harry taking turns at rear-ending each other in the centre circle. For the kiddies.....


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    Whats the scenes like down Gorgie way today? I imagine it will be reminiscent of the Istanbul or Brasilian protests with riot police and water cannon on the streets just to control the crowds!?!?!?

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    Just went past 10 mins ago and was quite shocked to see huge groups of 1 person milling around. They're well on course I'd say :-)

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    I seem to recall that when things went pear shaped for Rangers that some of their players took wage cuts but the lost monies were repayable at a later date. I just wondered if this was the case at Hearts with McDonald etc. No-one seems to have asked that question as far as I have seen. I also find it hard to believe that in a re-negotiated contract the players agents haven't inserted a few safety clauses which would allow them to get out if another club came calling....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7062 View Post
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    BBC gossip saying the 2 senior players getting emptied are Zaliukas and Driver.

    Ones away in Aug and one is on loan. Thought they'd be getting shot of Sutton as I'd imagine he's on a few £k a week.
    You mean Sallyplookass isn't prepared to take a pay cut for his beloved hertz? Who'd have thunk it

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Pishy Locke now begging Swally Ally to bring the big huns to the savilledome for a glamour friendly.
    Were hearts not one of the fIrst clubs to come out and say that they would be voting to refuse Sevco entry to the SPL? If I was Swally I'd tell them to bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. ****gy View Post
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    Not a chance.

    Apparently.
    Nah, hates McCoist.

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    Brian Kennedy - Previous

    From the grauniad in March, many similarities.

    Stockport County's proud 106-year stay in the Football League ended when they finished bottom of League Two in 2011. Now, they travel to local rivals Macclesfield Town on Saturday facing a second relegation in three years and the ignominy of dropping into the Conference North.

    The recent history of a club that little more than a decade ago was in the former First Division is pockmarked by civil war between fans and hierarchy due to chronic instability and a chaotic back-of-house operation. This has caused near-liquidation, the loss of their ground and training facility, and the employment of 16 interim and permanent managers since the turn of the century. For a club whose colours have been sported by George Best and Mike Summerbee, and who attracted a Champions League winner, Didi Hamann, to take charge two years ago, it is a dismal fall from grace.

    On one side is the fervent support that still pushes gates past 3,000 on a regular basis and that has become weary of the broken promises on the slide towards English football's sixth tier. On the other is a board, chaired by Lord Snape, a former Labour MP, which is led by Ryan McKnight – at 30, British football's youngest male chief executive.
    McKnight espouses commonsense ideas about building a continental-style long-term structure and philosophy for County. But his lack of experience of running a club, plus a penchant for "football specific" business-speak, has provoked scepticism from fans.

    While sources at County claim there is no debt beyond what is owed to shareholders, the prime anger for supporters is rooted in the draining of assets. Brian Kennedy, a Scottish millionaire who also owns Sale Sharks – which until last year ground-shared before moving to the City of Salford Stadium – sold the club in 2005 to the supporters' trust for £1. But Kennedy retained Edgeley Park for which County pay rent to his company, Cheshire Sport, with the current sum around £12,500 a month.

    When the club's financial problems reached the nadir of administration in 2009, the training ground was put up for sale. County currently use Woodley Sports Centre in nearby Romiley. In 2010 after drawn-out negotiations, the club was taken over by the 2015 Group, with Alwin Thompson appointed chairman and Snape as a director.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    I seem to recall that when things went pear shaped for Rangers that some of their players took wage cuts but the lost monies were repayable at a later date. I just wondered if this was the case at Hearts with McDonald etc. No-one seems to have asked that question as far as I have seen. I also find it hard to believe that in a re-negotiated contract the players agents haven't inserted a few safety clauses which would allow them to get out if another club came calling....
    The players don't need safety clauses.

    With the club in Administration and cuts being made to wages, the original contracts are effectively terminated.

    Players have the right to walk out if they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Any updates from the savilledome on how the stewards are dealing with the queue's of the deluded one's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibercelona View Post
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    The players don't need safety clauses.

    With the club in Administration and cuts being made to wages, the original contracts are effectively terminated.

    Players have the right to walk out if they want.
    If they have agreed to a 50% wage cut then I would suggest that they have re-negotiated the old contract and therefore be under a new contract. I am struggling to believe they are going to continue playing without a contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    If they have agreed to a 50% wage cut then I would suggest that they have re-negotiated the old contract and therefore be under a new contract. I am struggling to believe they are going to continue playing without a contract.
    I think there's clauses in contracts in the event of Administration. Not 100% sure though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paisley Hibby View Post
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    Were hearts not one of the fIrst clubs to come out and say that they would be voting to refuse Sevco entry to the SPL? If I was Swally I'd tell them to bolt.
    Romanov statement 21st June 2012

    "As regards the club itself, we can only express our deepest condolences to its supporters, who have been lied to for so many years.

    "It had to happen sooner or later. They have lived beyond law and all morals, and should now be declared beyond the pale."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibercelona View Post
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    The players don't need safety clauses.

    With the club in Administration and cuts being made to wages, the original contracts are effectively terminated.

    Players have the right to walk out if they want.

    Sorry don't think they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Sorry don't think they have.
    I believe that you are correct in that - that leads to my wondering about what clauses McDonald etc have inserted into their re-negotiated contracts...

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    I understood that the entire playing squad were effectively up for sale so I would think that the present contracts are not worth the paper they're printed on. And of course we're still waiting with baited breath on the deluge of offers that they expect for their so called crop of talented young players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    I understood that the entire playing squad were effectively up for sale so I would think that the present contracts are not worth the paper they're printed on. And of course we're still waiting with baited breath on the deluge of offers that they expect for their so called crop of talented young players.
    Can't agree with that. The admins I believe do have the right to terminate any contract (as in the case of Driver, Zali) but until they do so then the players can expect the terms of their existing contracts to be paid in full. None of the other in-contract players are free to sign for anyone else at this moment as far as I aware

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    Were hearts not one of the fIrst clubs to come out and say that they would be voting to refuse Sevco entry to the SPL? If I was Swally I'd tell them to bolt.
    Remember the huns boycott of Dundee Utd during the cup. They may very well do the same again.

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    If they have agreed to a 50% wage cut then I would suggest that they have re-negotiated the old contract and therefore be under a new contract. I am struggling to believe they are going to continue playing without a contract.
    A new contract would require registering. The SPL won't allow that.

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    Pishy Locke now begging Swally Ally to bring the big huns to the savilledome for a glamour friendly.
    Led to believe it's all just a Cock and 'Ball' story!
    Last edited by kdhibees1; 23-06-2013 at 04:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Can't agree with that. The admins I believe do have the right to terminate any contract (as in the case of Driver, Zali) but until they do so then the players can expect the terms of their existing contracts to be paid in full. None of the other in-contract players are free to sign for anyone else at this moment as far as I aware
    Perhaps, but I thought that the entire squad were made "available for sale" prior to the formal announcement of the actual Administration process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Can't agree with that. The admins I believe do have the right to terminate any contract (as in the case of Driver, Zali) but until they do so then the players can expect the terms of their existing contracts to be paid in full. None of the other in-contract players are free to sign for anyone else at this moment as far as I aware
    Jamie Borthwick just tweeted about McHattie will be on STV news sometime talking about his pay cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    You mean Sallyplookass isn't prepared to take a pay cut for his beloved hertz? Who'd have thunk it
    How can he take a pair when allegedly 75% of his pay was cash in hand via the brown bag of mad Vlad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    You mean Sallyplookass isn't prepared to take a pay cut for his beloved hertz? Who'd have thunk it
    I mind some roaster suggesting that I was "hurting" from 5-1 after I suggested that the likes of Skacel, Zaliukas and Ian Black were nothing more than mercenaries bleeding their club dry.

    If they're looking in, then all I have to say is smugqq.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    I mind some roaster suggesting that I was "hurting" from 5-1 after I suggested that the likes of Skacel, Zaliukas and Ian Black were nothing more than mercenaries bleeding their club dry.

    If they're looking in, then all I have to say is smugqq.png
    I see a lot of these pictures on kickback. Who is this guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesie View Post
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    I see a lot of these pictures on kickback. Who is this guy?
    Dunno but he's defo heard that lot are in admin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesie View Post
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    I see a lot of these pictures on kickback. Who is this guy?
    Its a Christan bale shot out of American Psycho.


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    Not a chance.

    Apparently.

    Davie Weir wants him at Sheffield. Think Weir played next to him for a season at the oldco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesie View Post
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    I see a lot of these pictures on kickback. Who is this guy?
    I think its Craigieboy

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibby rae View Post
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    Remember the huns boycott of Dundee Utd during the cup. They may very well do the same again.
    Would be funny if they played took a fee and the Blue Loyals boycotted. From Facebook there seemed to be a lot of schadenfreude amongst the Sevco support. Not like them to do u-turns.
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