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[jgl07]

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Listen if they told me the time I'd still ring the speaking clock, lie after lie.

The Yams prefer 'ticking' clocks!

[Mac]

From a Hibs point of view will we actually step up to the plate in supporting our club should hearts go to the wall?? Last year this forum was full of get the Huns out and we will fully back Petrie etc etc.

Clearly that didn't happen as even the first game of the season it was half empty, so more bluster or will we actually step up to the plate as financially the club will need a significant increase in attendances.

[adhibs]

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There's been a separate thread about a mangers fund (which I should maybe raise this point on), but I've never heard of it getting off the ground.

I'd happily set up a DD for maybe £25 a month (on top of buying a ST) for a managers fund.

I know there's options such as the kicks for kids fundraising .net does so I'll maybe donate money to that if no managers fund is set up.

Edit: Don't want that to sound like the kicks for kids doesn't deserve the cash as much as a managers fund. It's just that I don't believe there's an option to contribute monthly.

Kicks for kids is the best route as all season ticket money goes to the pat anyway, plus you help with the kicks for kids.

Il be donating a little towards it after my holidays

[Mac]

Think the figures of ST sales is similar to beggars/buskers, you have to put a few coins in first to entice others, I personally don't believe they have sold 500 and don't think they will hit 3000, I certainly would fork out £400 knowing there is a high probability I will loose it

[Jack]

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From a Hibs point of view will we actually step up to the plate in supporting our club should hearts go to the wall?? Last year this forum was full of get the Huns out and we will fully back Petrie etc etc.

Clearly that didn't happen as even the first game of the season it was half empty, so more bluster or will we actually step up to the plate as financially the club will need a significant increase in attendances.

It's been well circulated that Hibs average attendance over last season was 600 higher than the year before.

As a support we responded very well to the East Terrace stones (only a few left folks) and the Hibernian Lotto (mind and get your numbers on for the rollover). AFAIK we are 1000 season tickets up on last season with more than a month before the season starts.

We did respond, not bad for a club that died :)

I suppose the worrying point for Hibs is that the celtc ST figure dropped by over 5000 last year but hey, we're better than them :) but lets all keep working together.

[SmithyHibee]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...rators-1976349

Student Scott Farquhar admitted he simply could not afford to buy a season ticket but did his best by purchasing a maroon garden gnome.

"Every little helps," he said. "It's better than buying nothing at all. I'm not sure what the future holds, I just hope we can pull through."

All hands to the pump

[Hibby D]

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From a Hibs point of view will we actually step up to the plate in supporting our club should hearts go to the wall?? Last year this forum was full of get the Huns out and we will fully back Petrie etc etc.

Clearly that didn't happen as even the first game of the season it was half empty, so more bluster or will we actually step up to the plate as financially the club will need a significant increase in attendances.

Like many .netters I've read every post in this thread to date. It's like a drug. I've personally willed them into Admin and to losing the -15 points because they deserve it. I've laughed and better laughed at the quotes from KB that have kindly been reproduced here by those who also manage to find time to read what's going on over there (when do you sleep ffs? )

But.....

Using the back of a fag packet, the loss to Hibs with no home derbies is anything upwards of £100,000 each time; and that's just from the yams. Add to that the number of Hibbies undoubtedly lost to the home crowd ( because let's face it, there must be a fair few who come along only for the big games) and the impact on the club's finances will be huge.

So this begs the question. Just where are we going to find the shortfall?

[hibbypostie]

I now tell yams I know were getting readyto fill the corners of Easter Road to make way for all the new fans they laugh and say they will never support Hibs but watch that smile vanish
When I tell them we dont want you you're tainted but we'll take you childrens support then their kids support pretty soon you'll be the last jambo in the village

[Barney McGrew]

It's worth noting that while the yams start their self congratulatory back slapping for supposedly selling 500 seasons and raising money on Kickback that may or may not reach it's intended destination (think of all the plasma TVs you could buy with 13 grand), that all the money they've raised so far is the equivalent of David Obua's basic wage for three months.

And yet they act surprised that they're in this position in the first place

[lord bunberry]

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From a Hibs point of view will we actually step up to the plate in supporting our club should hearts go to the wall?? Last year this forum was full of get the Huns out and we will fully back Petrie etc etc.

Clearly that didn't happen as even the first game of the season it was half empty, so more bluster or will we actually step up to the plate as financially the club will need a significant increase in attendances.

I think hibs fans did step up to the plate last season, our attendances increased despite the fact that we had one of our worst seasons in years culminating in an embarrassing defeat in the cup final. Hibs fans are amongst the most loyal fans in the country, I can't think of another team that has had as many kickings as us and still came back for more.

[nribs]

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It's worth noting that while the yams start their self congratulatory back slapping for supposedly selling 500 seasons and raising money on Kickback that may or may not reach it's intended destination (think of all the plasma TVs you could buy with 13 grand), that all the money they've raised so far is the equivalent of David Obua's basic wage for three months.

And yet they act surprised that they're in this position in the first place

I think Obua was on a hefty wedge. Probably only around 2 weeks wages at most?

[rcarter1]

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Like many .netters I've read every post in this thread to date. It's like a drug. I've personally willed them into Admin and to losing the -15 points because they deserve it. I've laughed and better laughed at the quotes from KB that have kindly been reproduced here by those who also manage to find time to read what's going on over there (when do you sleep ffs? )

But.....

Using the back of a fag packet, the loss to Hibs with no home derbies is anything upwards of £100,000 each time; and that's just from the yams. Add to that the number of Hibbies undoubtedly lost to the home crowd ( because let's face it, there must be a fair few who come along only for the big games) and the impact on the club's finances will be huge.

So this begs the question. Just where are we going to find the shortfall?

Hibs appear to have a robust enough financial strategy to deal with ups and downs like this. The Cup runs of the last two seasons will have been unexpected bonuses, the loss of Rangers and Hearts an 'unexpected' drop of income. Our main problem is the lower than hoped for home gates recently, but these seem to be growing, and thus hopefully we can start reversing our debt situation. Unlike the Yams, our debt is manageable, and we take the hit each year on not signing new players if money is tight. My only gripe is whether or not East Mains represents value for money at half a million per year upkeep. Aside from East Mains we seem to need about 2 million or more as running costs (excluding all staff salaries) which again seems high, but no doubt there are reasons.

I still reckon the Yams will pull through for a while at least.

[Kaiser1962]

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These fundraisers are nothing more than buying time.

Correct.

Admirable that the Yam fundraising attempts to keep the club alive are, the overall sums of money raised are insignificant in the great scheme of things.

What it does do is buy time for Yams to persuade someome with real wealth to step in. If they dont get backup from an STF, EddieThomson, or Stewart Milne type then they could cover gorgie in bouncy castles and the outcome would remain the same.

Thinking back to our situation, and Celtic's, in the early 90's, while in no way attempting to belittle the actions of fans groups, it was the men with serious money who ultimately decided the future of both clubs.

Hearts need someone and quickly.

[Mac]

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Correct.

Admirable that the Yam fundraising attempts to keep the club alive are, the overall sums of money raised are insignificant in the great scheme of things.

What it does do is buy time for Yams to persuade someome with real wealth to step in. If they dont get backup from an STF, EddieThomson, or Stewart Milne type then they could cover gorgie in bouncy castles and the outcome would remain the same.

Thinking back to our situation, and Celtic's, in the early 90's, while in no way attempting to belittle the actions of fans groups, it was the men with serious money who ultimately decided the future of both clubs.

Hearts need someone and quickly.

Spot on, Fergus Mcann along with the others you mentioned were the only reason these clubs survived, even Motherwell had their money man at the time, I just can't see anyone with any business mentality with an enormous wealth throwing it at Hearts, there is just too big a black hole to fill knowing full well they won't get a fraction of it back as there is no assets or big enough fan base, the Huns have over 50k at every home game and they are again losing £1m a month, I genuinely struggle to see how they will be playing any sort of football next season in any league!!

[AlbertK86]

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Really want them to survive now - a packed Hibs-end belting out THAT chorus on Aug 10 would be superb !!!

Agree 100% this must be sung on 10th of August .... Cannae effin wait for that game .... The taunting may even surpass the years of 7-0

GGTTH

[truehibernian]

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I think Obua was on a hefty wedge. Probably only around 2 weeks wages at most?

£8.5K a week I call him St David Obua in my household - took them to the proverbial cleaners so he did

[Leithenhibby]

I see Sallyukas's contract runs out August, though some posters said it had 6 months to run!


Sutton & Hamill are watching their backs as it looks as though the axe will fall on them next. "fingers crossed"

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ocke-1-2973609

[truehibernian]

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I see Sallyukas's contract runs out August, though some posters said it had 6 months to run!


Sutton & Hamill are watching their backs as it looks as though the axe will fall on them next. "fingers crossed"

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ocke-1-2973609

What's making me bright eyed and bushy tailed all this week is that Lockey is keeping his job and there's no speculation about him going - useless & clueless manager

[mayo hibee]

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I see Sallyukas's contract runs out August, though some posters said it had 6 months to run!


Sutton & Hamill are watching their backs as it looks as though the axe will fall on them next. "fingers crossed"

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ocke-1-2973609

I thought they might have avoided releases with the two pay cut agreements, but it looks like Sutton and Hamill have to go as well as that.

All thats left is a goalie, a midfielder, a team of very average youngsters and a 15 point deduction. They are completely screwed.

[Twa Cairpets]

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Like many .netters I've read every post in this thread to date. It's like a drug. I've personally willed them into Admin and to losing the -15 points because they deserve it. I've laughed and better laughed at the quotes from KB that have kindly been reproduced here by those who also manage to find time to read what's going on over there (when do you sleep ffs? )

But.....

Using the back of a fag packet, the loss to Hibs with no home derbies is anything upwards of £100,000 each time; and that's just from the yams. Add to that the number of Hibbies undoubtedly lost to the home crowd ( because let's face it, there must be a fair few who come along only for the big games) and the impact on the club's finances will be huge.

So this begs the question. Just where are we going to find the shortfall?

Equally fagpacket, but on the basis that a more successful club in terms of league position will add fans, the absence of Hearts and Sevco should add to out potential to compete at the top end. Allowing for Hearts adding, say 5000 for one home game against a more run-of-the-mill fixture, we would need to average an extra 263 over the course of a season per home game, or 500 or so if we get them twice at ER
It is an impact, but doesn't seem over ambitious - one extra round in the cup would clear it, as I'm sure the budget process allows for a prudent being knocked out in the first round every time.

[s.a.m]

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I see Sallyukas's contract runs out August, though some posters said it had 6 months to run!


Sutton & Hamill are watching their backs as it looks as though the axe will fall on them next. "fingers crossed"

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ocke-1-2973609

Stuart 'Random Comparisons' Bathgate:
Asked if the task faced by Hearts now was tougher than the 2012 Scottish Cup final, in which they beat Hibs 5-1, Locke unsurprisingly said it was. “Easily, This is the biggest battle that the club has faced.”

....so ******* unsurprising that it will be a puzzle to every sentient being* why you asked it. I think he's got a tic.



* and possibly, even, Gary Locke.

[Leithenhibby]

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What's making me bright eyed and bushy tailed all this week is that Lockey is keeping his job and there's no speculation about him going - useless & clueless manager

If, and it's a huge If they make the start of the season, I for one will want to watch a death of a thousand cuts! No pun intended

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I thought they might have avoided releases with the two pay cut agreements, but it looks like Sutton and Hamill have to go as well as that.

All thats left is a goalie, a midfielder, a team of very average youngsters and a 15 point deduction. They are completely screwed.

All that's left is as poor a squad as I could wish for!.............

Still can't see them make it though.... GGTTH

[lucky]

http://twitter.com/edinburghpaper/st...466240/photo/1 front page of today's news. I don't whether to laugh or cry at the wedding couple. Really they should not be allowed to breed. How sad can you be to go to a football ground to buy a ST in your wedding outfit ?

[ac1]

Quote from Sickbag on the non payment by cards -

'Are Lloyds Banking Group also our Merchant Service Provider?

If so, time for Ian Murray to focus on the day job and get strings pulled in Westminster, so that any "issues" are removed. Lloyds are still majority owned by the taxpayer.'



Is that the same taxpayer your club is going to be bumping millions of pounds from? Unreal over there!

[Bighoose]

On given news that Rodney and remaining Lithuanians given the bullet.

JKB Meltdown ‏@JKBmeltdown 8m
FFS - just spent all day on a 'sack the board' placard. They could have told me

Has to be an undercover Hibee on the windup

[Leithenhibby]

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Stuart 'Random Comparisons' Bathgate:
Asked if the task faced by Hearts now was tougher than the 2012 Scottish Cup final, in which they beat Hibs 5-1, Locke unsurprisingly said it was. “Easily, This is the biggest battle that the club has faced.”

....so ******* unsurprising that it will be a puzzle to every sentient being* why you asked it. I think he's got a tic.



* and possibly, even, Gary Locke.

Yeah, the last couple of paragraphs are a joke, but then, the whole situation at Tynie is a joke...

[s2hart]

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What's making me bright eyed and bushy tailed all this week is that Lockey is keeping his job and there's no speculation about him going - useless & clueless manager

I would imagine he is one of the lowest paid managers in the league, if you could class him as a manager!!

[truehibernian]

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I would imagine he is one of the lowest paid managers in the league, if you could class him as a manager!!

I'd seriously doubt that bud - I reckon he'll be the second or third highest paid in the current SPL. However he certainly isn't spending any of it on his attire - dresses like a mannequin from C&A Hearts have always struggled in the fashion leagues

[Treadstone]

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Stuart 'Random Comparisons' Bathgate:
Asked if the task faced by Hearts now was tougher than the 2012 Scottish Cup final, in which they beat Hibs 5-1, Locke unsurprisingly said it was. “Easily, This is the biggest battle that the club has faced.”

....so ******* unsurprising that it will be a puzzle to every sentient being* why you asked it. I think he's got a tic.
* and possibly, even, Gary Locke.

Stuart Bathgate = Hootsmans version of #allisbarry

No wonder the Scottish MSM takes such a kicking. Inept and full of people with their own personal agendas to promote.

[Bleeds green]

Btw the way some of the stuff there auctioning is going for crazy money players tops boots etc even lunch with players some bids in excess of £500 100 items an there's 50k, this money/bidding will most probably be the fans who already purchased season tickets burying into savings again, there giving it a good go