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[marinello59]

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Hey! I finally hit 1000 posts! I've been on Hibs.net since practically the beginning so it's taken me a looooooong time to get there. Some guys are up to 30,000 posts by now.

Some of us do post a lot of ***** though. I reckon I have made about 6 decent posts.

[#FromTheCapital]

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"I believe the club has a bright future with a lot of good young players." - Danny Wilson on signing for Hearts.

Ah the mythical great youngsters of hearts that we keep hearing about but don't ever actually see. Next season will be interesting if they get their 15 point deduction cos they're pish.

[Kaiser1962]

Its getting silly now. They can't pay their players on time, they have stated they are unable to pay their debts, they have pumped the ordinary Lith for £70m, they have only recently stiffed the ordinary (?) Yam for £1m+, they have been caught out perpetuating a tax dodge are are having to repay the money in stages because they cant afford it, they are actually planning to enter administration when it suits them, they openly admit they do not have enough funds to see out the season. So why the **** are they allowed to continue signing players?

Now they're taking the p1$$.

[essexhibee]

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Ah the mythical great youngsters of hearts that we keep hearing about but don't ever actually see. Next season will be interesting if they get their 15 point deduction cos they're pish.

Exactly. So much for this "golden generation" the same generation who we beat with a younger side on their own patch.

[IWasThere2016]

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Some of us do post a lot of ***** though. I reckon I have made about 6 decent posts.

You're far too good to yourself

[crewetollhibee]

So much for their claims that we're obsessed with them. On SCF day, there were FOUR posts on this thread; and these were just throw-away remarks. Tell that to any yams coming away with any such claims.

[Lucius Apuleius]

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You're far too good to yourself

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

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Its getting silly now. They can't pay their players on time, they have stated they are unable to pay their debts, they have pumped the ordinary Lith for £70m, they have only recently stiffed the ordinary (?) Yam for £1m+, they have been caught out perpetuating a tax dodge are are having to repay the money in stages because they cant afford it, they are actually planning to enter administration when it suits them, they openly admit they do not have enough funds to see out the season. So why the **** are they allowed to continue signing players?

Now they're taking the p1$$.

Spot on, they demoted Dunfermline for just having a £150k debt (and this paid by the way but too late) and they got an instant points deduction yet this stinking mire are zillions in debt all over the place yet they are allowed to sign players? where's the justice here.

Unbelievable

[hibs0666]

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Some of us do post a lot of ***** though. I reckon I have made about 6 decent posts.

Generous.

[Sanger]

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This is the sickbag rumour quote mentioned above. The poster claims he got the following from among the suits at Hampden yesterday. First part sounds fairly plausible and second part top notch but perhaps a bit over hopeful. Suspect it would be a worst case scenario if the Lithquidators play proper hardball.



Bit in bold, they really, really just don't get it do they? I've not murdered anyone for over a year, how can you punish me?

Sickbag story consistent with stories that Hearts in discussion with council on finding somewhere else to play and administrators going to show no mercy given the fact that Hearts have blown nearly £70 million of the Lithuanian people's money.

Part two is consistent with all the analysis here on their cash flows. I can see 15 points being deducted for UBIG going insolvent and then another 15 docked when Hearts go into administration to stop HMRC winding them up.

[brog]

Just how bad is Danny Wilson if he's agreeing to sign for Yams before he's even out of contract!! If he thinks Yams is best offer he'll get then either he's awful/deluded or he has a get out clause which may see him picking up 2 signing on fees in a short space of time.

[bingo70]

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Sickbag story consistent with stories that Hearts in discussion with council on finding somewhere else to play and administrators going to show no mercy given the fact that Hearts have blown nearly £70 million of the Lithuanian people's money.

Part two is consistent with all the analysis here on their cash flows. I can see 15 points being deducted for UBIG going insolvent and then another 15 docked when Hearts go into administration to stop HMRC winding them up.

Don't think they can be deducted the points twice, would be hilarious if they could but don't think that would happen.

[Sanger]

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Sickbag story consistent with stories that Hearts in discussion with council on finding somewhere else to play and administrators going to show no mercy given the fact that Hearts have blown nearly £70 million of the Lithuanian people's money.

Part two is consistent with all the analysis here on their cash flows. I can see 15 points being deducted for UBIG going insolvent and then another 15 docked when Hearts go into administration to stop HMRC winding them up.

But the full knowledge that the SPL has on the ground move and their insolvency given the Hearts request for a cash advance shows that last Monday's meeting was never going to relegate them so desperate are they to keep Hearts in The SPL. But SPl are going to end up with egg on there face when one of their clubs has to leave their ground and have double penalty points applied with the SPL having full knowledge of their complete and utter bankruptcy.

[Springbank]

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Just how bad is Danny Wilson if he's agreeing to sign for Yams before he's even out of contract!! If he thinks Yams is best offer he'll get then either he's awful/deluded or he has a get out clause which may see him picking up 2 signing on fees in a short space of time.

Don't know who you have been talking to (smartly dressed well known character in Glasgow perchance?) but that is *exactly* the information I have.

Agents are smelling blood at Tynecastle - they are fxxxed AND they have a PR mountain to climb.

Or as football agents call it, the Perfect Storm. Clients being advised "sign for Hearts but make sure you've got the Lith Admin release clause"

[Sanger]

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Don't think they can be deducted the points twice, would be hilarious if they could but don't think that would happen.

I am hopeful!

[CropleyWasGod]

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Spot on, they demoted Dunfermline for just having a £150k debt (and this paid by the way but too late) and they got an instant points deduction yet this stinking mire are zillions in debt all over the place yet they are allowed to sign players? where's the justice here.

Unbelievable

"They" (whoever they are) didn't demote Dunfermline for having a £150k debt. Dunfermline went into administration, suffered the consequent points deduction, and ultimately were relegated after a play-off.

Hibs have a c.£6m debt. Do you think we should be demoted as well?

[blindsummit]

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Some of us do post a lot of ***** though. I reckon I have made about 6 decent posts.

I suspect most of my 1000 haven't been that great either

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

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"They" (whoever they are) didn't demote Dunfermline for having a £150k debt. Dunfermline went into administration, suffered the consequent points deduction, and ultimately were relegated after a play-off.

Hibs have a c.£6m debt. Do you think we should be demoted as well?

Our debt and theirs are obviously two different scenarios I would have thought Crops

[jonty]

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Some of us do post a lot of ***** though. I reckon I have made about 6 decent posts.

wheres the 'like' button when you need it...

[davidw]

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Don't know who you have been talking to (smartly dressed well known character in Glasgow perchance?) but that is *exactly* the information I have.

Agents are smelling blood at Tynecastle - they are fxxxed AND they have a PR mountain to climb.

Or as football agents call it, the Perfect Storm. Clients being advised "sign for Hearts but make sure you've got the Lith Admin release clause"

Is this it then? Is this the official explanation? Cos otherwise I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would sign for a club which even the most optimistic Jambo knows will be in administration shortly and therefore your contract may be terminated. Why would you sign unless you were a complete moron? Oh, hold on...

[Prof. Shaggy]

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Don't think they can be deducted the points twice, would be hilarious if they could but don't think that would happen.

I've wondered about that for a few days.
Can't quite find clarity in the rules but I can't see anything to stipulate only one penalty may be suffered.

I suspect the points deduction followed by Hearts own insolvency event would be a pretty deep hole for them to fall into though.

And about as hilarious as it gets...

[Col2]

Skacel next per chance? One year deal, coaching role and number 51 on the shirt. Add in Chis Boyd and they will be renewing season tickets and taking out new membership schemes before you can say Jamboshafting.

Then the wages will be delayed from August much to Hearts board surprise....and here we go again..

[Gus Fring]

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Don't know who you have been talking to (smartly dressed well known character in Glasgow perchance?) but that is *exactly* the information I have.

Agents are smelling blood at Tynecastle - they are fxxxed AND they have a PR mountain to climb.

Or as football agents call it, the Perfect Storm. Clients being advised "sign for Hearts but make sure you've got the Lith Admin release clause"

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Don't think they can be deducted the points twice, would be hilarious if they could but don't think that would happen.

A second points deduction is a possibility and a punishment that is available to the board, it does have the caveat of "at the boards discretion" however. If UBIG suffered and insolvency event and this caused Hearts to also suffer an insolvency event, this could result in 2 point deductions but the SPL would be unlikely to apply a second. If a decent amount of time passes however then the SPL could do it.

[Eyrie]

I don't think they'll get hit for two points deductions, first for the confirmation that UBIG are insolvent followed by one for entering admin. They could argue that the two are linked (despite their claims that they are "self-sustaining").

But when they fail to pay wages on time yet again next season the SPL will have little option but to use a points deduction for a repeated breach of the same rule.

[Beefster]

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Some of us do post a lot of ***** though. I reckon I have made about 6 decent posts.

I was told I made one in 2004. I still celebrate its anniversary every 14th March.

[Iain G]

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I was told I made one in 2004. I still celebrate its anniversary every 14th March.

Must have been that post wishing me a happy birthday then

[brog]

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Don't know who you have been talking to (smartly dressed well known character in Glasgow perchance?) but that is *exactly* the information I have.

Agents are smelling blood at Tynecastle - they are fxxxed AND they have a PR mountain to climb.

Or as football agents call it, the Perfect Storm. Clients being advised "sign for Hearts but make sure you've got the Lith Admin release clause"

Wasn't talking to the particular gentleman you refer to but I do know some agents down here & as you say they've been anticipating the perfect storm scenario re Yams for some time. My experience is agents are always first to know what's going on which helps explain my continuing confidence that Yams absolutely best scenario is admin & a 15 point deduction. I continue to think it will be much worse (for them of course)!

[YehButNoBut]

Maybe Hearts players don't believe that things are as bad at Hearts as we believe, when you read why Wilson signed a 3 year deal with them.

Quotes like these below makes you think are things at Hearts as bad as we believe they are??

I don’t think the club would offer me a contract if there was no future here.

But the club have said all along that there is nothing for the players to concern ourselves with.

If we do start with a deduction, it is something we will need to meet head-on. But there is no guarantee of that happening. So we will need to just wait and see.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...ny-Wilson.html

[Treadstone]

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Maybe Hearts players don't believe that things are as bad at Hearts as we believe, when you read why Wilson signed a 3 year deal with them.

Quotes like these below makes you think are things at Hearts as bad as we believe they are??

I don’t think the club would offer me a contract if there was no future here.

But the club have said all along that there is nothing for the players to concern ourselves with.

If we do start with a deduction, it is something we will need to meet head-on. But there is no guarantee of that happening. So we will need to just wait and see.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...ny-Wilson.html

Or check the dates:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16967931

Then

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-17015966

[Geo_1875]

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Maybe Hearts players don't believe that things are as bad at Hearts as we believe, when you read why Wilson signed a 3 year deal with them.

Quotes like these below makes you think are things at Hearts as bad as we believe they are??

I don’t think the club would offer me a contract if there was no future here.

But the club have said all along that there is nothing for the players to concern ourselves with.

If we do start with a deduction, it is something we will need to meet head-on. But there is no guarantee of that happening. So we will need to just wait and see.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...ny-Wilson.html

Does he not read the newspapers? Well except for the EEN where #Allisbarry.